Suicide Attempt For Help

[pixel]

Please give me your ideas

Here's the run-down:

Moved to city 4 months ago for better PTSD and dissociation treatment.
Got linked into a service as promised, but discovered they only do short term therapy. they have referred me on to people who have referred me on who have referred me on.....
4 months on, I am still in limbo.

A psych nurse said to me the system is in crisis and they only have capacity to urgently assist people undergoing psychosis or suicide attempts. its so hard to believe this is true, but after 4 months waiting im starting to understand.

but i cant wait much longer.

I'm, um, crumbling.

I think i know what has to happen, I need to attempt suicide.
i need to be taken seriously, so i should commit an act that will make them see. not commit suicide, just attempt it, do something pretty damn close. i cant see another way.

Guys, please, is there another way to get help?
I don't want hugs or soft empty words. you can say im being stupid but please add something constructive.
Practical advice please, hit me with it.

 

[Virtues]

I don't know the medical protocol over there so I'm sorry I can't be of much help, but you must think of the repercussions of a suicide attempt. It could go horribly wrong and you could die from it. It is very dangerous to try to walk that thin line between a bluff and an actual attempt. Please just keep that in mind as you go forward. This does hold the risk of going wrong and you actually end up killing yourself.

 

[expectingbetter]

I hear you.
It is not a pleasant situation at all.
The system really doesn't function. And it is not our fault.
We just need to find the way to past the system.
Is there any possibility to find the therapist on your own, privately?
Even if it has to be in another country, online therapy. It is way too better solution than suicide attempt.
Not only you can't ever be safe enough it would be 'only' attempt but you also can't count on such system that it will provide you with help even then.
I wouldn't count on it for sure. At all.
Even if you can't provide many sessions the one in very few weeks is better than none.
I will add the hug in the end as I really feel myself I would love to give you one. As a sign I really get how you feel.
:hug:

 

[Tinyflame]

Oh my. :(

:hug: @pixel .

 

[joeylittle]

@pixel - you're asking the forum whether or not you should attempt suicide.

Don't continue this line of questioning, or this line of thinking. I'm not locking the thread, because I don't believe you're beyond suicidal ideation.

But the answer is just, plain - no. It's not going to work.

You need therapy. This isn't the way to get it. I'm sorry, I know the system can really, really suck. But you have to keep banging away at it. Sometimes, it's about calling the same numbers over and over until someone who knows how to help actually picks up the phone (I know this is true of US insurance - who you get on the line really affects your outcome, because the rules are so byzantine)

Even a parasuicidal attempt can end in major medical injury. It can also end in your death. That's clearly not what you want. Organ failure, dialysis for the rest of your life, lost of a limb or loss of use of a limb. Infection. Death.

That's not what you actually want.

I don't even think it would give you access to the help you are looking for.

 

[Deleted member 541]

Attempting suicide to get help? Not a good idea if it backfires and you die. I have no clue how you will get the help as you live in another country, but I hope you do find some soon....

 

[rosey]

Well that is an easy no.

Over here you can walk into hospital emergency departments and say you fear you might attempt it i would say that is a better option they have to take it seriously.

 

[PointlessExistence]

I agree with Rosey. If you say you are suicidal and are on the verge of committing suicide, I would think they would have no choice but to get you treatment. At least that's how it is here in the USA.

 

[Friday]

When people say there's only help for people in psychosis or attempting suicide? They generally mean there's only 3 DAYS of help. Meaning a 72 hour lockdown, and emergency meds to stabilize an acute crisis.

Which would be very in line with the area you're in only offering short term therapy.

If you have to have attempted suicide / be suicidal to get into longer programs? Then you walk your happy ass into wherever it is that you need to go and tell them you don't see any other option than suicide. Which is clearly true. Because there are a helluva lot of other options.

 

[joeylittle]

If you say you are suicidal and are on the verge of committing suicide, I would think they would have no choice but to get you treatment.

If this is the case, then this is an approach you can take @pixel

But I'm not hearing you say you are suicidal - I'm hearing you say that you are very aware you are on a downward spiral.

but i cant wait much longer.

I'm, um, crumbling.

Can you talk about this a little more? Maybe there's a better way to frame things for the mental health system there that would get you through the red tape slightly faster.

Got linked into a service as promised, but discovered they only do short term therapy.

Can you take this option for right now? As another poster said, short term is better than nothing.

 

[Suzetig]

I don't think you're stupid, I think k you're desperate for help and think this might get someone to take you seriously. Others have posted their thoughts about that, and I agree that it's too risky and wouldn't actually result in what you need - crisis services aren't longer term support. All that would happen is they'd treat any injuries, possibly medicate you, possibly take you in patient for a week or two and then you'd be back out, in the same horrible place, with a suicide attempt on your record.

I wonder if you have a primary care physician/GP that you could talk to and be clear about how much you're struggling? Ask them to continue to source therapy and/or other treatment. Also go back to the place that's referred you and ask them for an update - their overload isn't your problem, you deserve some kind of treatment. Do you have access to any a form of advocacy? Some charity/volunteer organisations will advocate on behalf of sufferers, which may be an option of you just feel worn out with it.

Last resort, present at hospital saying you fear you will harm yourself, without actually doing it. If you're a danger to yourself they do need to act, which may not be great but may be enough to hold you through this time. In the meantime use crisis lines, support groups etc as much as you need to for immediate support.

You really just need to get through 5 minutes at a time, and then the next 5 and so on. Try to focus on what you need right now, then in 5 mins again, what do I need to get through right now and keep going. It's hard when you feel so awful but anything that is in any way self soothing, hot bath, soft blankies, movies, ice cream - I've been known to literaly curl up in bed and stay there because moving was too hard.

 

[pixel]

appreciate your responses.

i need an advocate as i cant think straight. thanks @Suzetig for the idea.

and everyone else thanks for reminding about presenting to hospital, thats a better idea than doing something harmful.

i needed your ideas for alternatives, and you all willingly helped. im so grateful to everyone, thank you for being there for me.