Suicide Attempt For Help

[EveHarrington]

I'm guessing you're caught up in a public system? Can you afford to go private? My advice if you lived in the states would be to find the best of what's available as trauma people here who are worth anything are private and demand higher compensation.

 

[Gadgie]

lying about an attempt, mocking it up etc could earn you a reputation for attention seeking - which won't go well.

Yea! we knew a couple of people like that when I was in the ambulance service, they were well known by all the emergency services? They didn't realise that they were wasting the emergency resources in their attempt to get attention?

We always found, that if a person really wants to do away with themselves, they do it, .........they don't tell anyone in advance, .........finding them is the worst part, .........especially if it's been a while since they did it?

 

[Sideways]

@pixel - I know I'm late in in this one, ignore this stuff if it's already been said.

Have you had your 10 free psychology appointments for the year? There's a lot of stuff that psychologists are no good for, but coping from day to day, especially with anxiety and depression related symptoms, they can be really good. Pick one connected to a larger practice, because they tend to have more information about other services in your city. You get a referral from your GP.

Which is suggestion 2. Have you got a good GP? They should be able to direct you to mental health services and programs, as well as an appropriate p-doc. Good gp's (not bulk billing) are worth their weight in gold with mental health help. They can also refer you for an additional free 5 psychology appointments (which is 15 every 12 months, more than once a month) if you have a particular illness (huge list that will qualify you: everything from diabetes to migraines, again, you need a good GP, forking out extra cash on your gp is worth it).

Third, take a look at the mental health hospitals websites for your cities. Most have day programs which are a good way in the back door, and if you have basic hospital health cover, many end up free.

Just some additional ideas. In a new city, you need to get your foot in the door, once you do, it comes a lot easier. Whatever public hospital catchment you're in will have an outpatient service, again, check the health dept websites. Getting in may require presenting to the ED for acute help, and you want to stay in at least overnight so that you get assigned a p-doc, rather than just seeing the one connected to the ED, although if they are out of beds (they'll tell you straight up usually), you could ask for a referral to the outpatient service to help you "stay in the community". Actually, that's just code for "I need to get into the system", but they shoumd assign you a psychologist or social worker in the community service which will be your makn support worker, and will help you get into the services you need.

Public hospitals are big (big big) on keeping people in the community. The quality varies a LOT between hospitals, but I received a lot of support this way in the past (had to try 3 different hospitals, which means 3 different catchments - use someone else's address, friend or relative, when you present to ED if you need to get into their catchment).

Hope some of that helps. Stick with it, help is out there. It takes patience, but you will get your foot in the door with some persistence:)

 

[sedna]

You got lucky.

You're the exception, not the rule.

Please also keep in mind that the poster...

@joeylittle the context of my situation is real and there wasnt any luck involved and there was no risk.


The context of the scenarios you mention are also valid, sad and scary, But theyre not what I said I did either.

Im not sure why what I said translated as suggesting someone should attempt a real any kind of attempt at all , and hanging in public? yikes. A close friend with a sense of humor is what I said

It was my own experience - desperate for private care I couldnt find.
Im retracting the suggestion completely and
APOLOGIZE , especially now that Im picturing Australians self harming at the mall because me.

 

[joeylittle]

I did this myself actually, there is zero danger in it and it comes from the system that endangers you by making it that impossible to get help.

The bolded statement is what I was reacting so strongly to.
The way to deal with the system is not to fake a suicide, even badly. One cannot rely on the medical side of the equation to react with good will.

I'll change it to, you were fortunate in that your experience turned out OK - if saying that "you got lucky" seems disingenuous.

But the consequences of trying something like this do carry risk, there is not zero danger in it. I don't mean danger of a semi-effective attempt, I mean the dangers of being not-believed, of being too well believed, of getting the wrong kind of short-term help and no closer to long term help, compromising your chances at long term help by being labelled as a malingerer...it just goes on and on.

I'm glad your situation turned out OK. Personally, I would never advocate it (stating the obvious there, aren't I?), and I wanted to say that very strongly and clearly - so I did.

That's all.

 

[sedna]

Im feeling like I might have menopause speaking for me again & I need to just stop.
I totally see your point since there are too many ways to encourage unstable people to do the wrong thing Im very sorry about that.
Im on my phone and its easier to text quickly to questions here without looking too closely.

I literally just put the rope around my head then had a soda while I waited with my friend. There was no luck, I didnt have the admittance issue I thought either so its possible EMT didnt buy it anyway please no one try it Im an idiot and Im not coming back to this thread

 

[ms spock]

@pixel - suicide callbackline - call them and tell them your problems and what you are thinking of doing - they might be able to get you into a program

Ring the crisis lines in Australia.

You mental health team in your local area - what are they like?

There are options in Australia.

 

[pixel]

Tonight I was on a bridge.

I saw a girl there also; visibly upset, crying and alone.
I went to her and asked, "Are you ok?", she nodded. I asked her again, more gently, and the tears poured down her face. I placed my hand on her shoulder, making small circle motions on her back as the police arrived. I'm presuming someone had rung the police ahead of time. They took her to the nearest hospital.

 

[ms spock]

You are a champion @pixel! You really are! Good show!

Home Page | Suicide Call Back Service you can ring them or join up online and chat to them there. Let them know you are feeling like a suicide attempt is the only way to get help. They are properly trained psychologists and they know of a lot of resources!

1300 659 467 is there number. If it is worth a possible attempt to get some real help I think, (and this option may not work for you,) but if you are willing to almost go down the path of a suicide attempt for help then it is worth a phone call to see if you can get some proper help. Even if you end up ringing each time you feel suicidal that is at least someone real to talk to at this time. (Rewrote this as it did not make sense.)

I have used the phoneline for my suicidal ideation, and I joined up and went to the online chat a couple of times. Talking on the phone works best for me. Sometimes there can be a long wait to get to speak to someone but it is really worth and there are some great people working there.

Lifeline can be another line to ring but it really is a mixed bag so you have to hang up if they are not for you.

 

[pixel]

Thank you so much @Ms Spock
I'm really confused right now. :cry:

Will ring them before I go any further :tup:

 

[brae]

mental heath "care" in australia fails us ): this is so real

 

[ms spock]

It is worth making quite a few phone calls if it stops you from attempting suicide - that is my opinion anyway. Ring and keep ringing and let them know your challenges and problems.