Einstein And 'dissociation'

[EmmaOwl]

Void, I thought ASD stood for Acute Stress Disorder, like a counterpoint to Post Traumatic Stress? I suppose it could stand for both of them, but I'm a little confused here, discussing trauma and autism at the same time. ? I'm not criticizing - I'm trying to sort this out. Sorry if I am missing something.

 

[void]

Void, I thought ASD stood for Acute Stress Disorder, like a counterpoint to Post Traumatic Stress? I s...

@Allie D.

I'm so sry.....mea culpa:sorry::sorry::oops::oops:

Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD).......i should have specified....pls forgive.

 

[EmmaOwl]

Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD).......i should have specified....pls forgive.

Ah! No forgiveness necessary - you did nothing wrong! I think I was a little slow on the uptake.
Either way, I'm glad to have clarity before moving forward onto an interesting topic.

 

[BuckarooBanzai]

I have no way of knowing whether he was dissociated or just engaged in deep concentration.

I agree. That's why I wrote 'dissociation'.

Dissociation is not limited to trauma survivors. Some people - especially highly intelligent, creative people, dissociate easily.

I dissociate when I study - and that has nothing to do with trauma. I just 'go deep'. If one concentrates so deeply that he doesn't know where he is or how to get home, he's dissociating, it's just not the sort of trauma-related dissociation PTSD sufferers think of.

 

[Tinyflame]

In Einstein's case he really might have been in a parallel universe. :)

 

[BuckarooBanzai]

parallel universe

:)

 

[EmmaOwl]

I would have loved to have met him.:happy:

I was going to say "me too!" but then I realized, I would be absolutely terrified to meet him. Years ago, part of my job was organizing and hosting programs with American authors, and the ones I liked best would leave me tongue-tied.
(Well there was one I absolutely despised, as a person, and I stayed quiet, too... but that took a lot of effort! She made an English professor cry at a small dinner given for her. I don't believe Einstein would've done that, or at least he would have felt badly if it happened! : ) Oh, I am continuing goofy posts today. Apologies!

 

[EmmaOwl]

I dissociate when I study - and that has nothing to do with trauma. I just 'go deep'.

This is an interesting perspective. I never thought of it that way before, but when I was at university the same would happen to me while reading - I'd plop myself down on the linoleum floor of 4th floor west ! of the library and hours would go by in a snap! In a good way.
I'd love to get that ability back sometime.

 

[EmmaOwl]

significant overlap (think Venn diag.) between the characteristics of giftedness and the high IQ portion of the Autism Spectrum

And it wouldn't necessarily relate to external trauma. There's a very high correlation between genius and a variety of mental illnesses. Even schizophrenia, which in the past I imagined was too debilitating to allow for serious work. Forget manic depression aka bipolar. There is your Venn diagram!

Imagine combining all that... For example PTSD very often overlaps with other mental illnesses. So say you've got someone who is bipolar, has PTSD, and gifted in mathematics, or the arts. Each thing would get its own circle, including different types of genius - are you brilliant with words, or brilliant in a visual manner as a painter? What a research project that would be!

 

[void]

@Allie D.

I have met, irl and online, quite a number of ppl as you have described.

Most normal IQ ppl see the intellectual capacity of the gifted as being strictly positive, in contrast, many of the gifted suffer greatly and feel like a misunderstood outsider their entire life.

Leading one such man to write "The Inappropriately Excluded"
https://polymatharchives.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html
I don't expect u to read that btw:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:....it just speaks partly to the sense of marginalization which appears to be prevalent amongst those thus afflicted.
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@BuckarooBanzai

I confess, I've only thought of dissin' as a manifestation of pathology, I've never thought of it as being equivalent to deep absorption in an activity.
Hmmm...food for thought.

 

[EmmaOwl]

Why is it so amusing to think I'd read that article?

 

[aut555]

I agree. That's why I wrote 'dissociation'.

Dissociation is not limited to trauma survivors. So...

@BuckarooBanzai
Let's dissociate.....freedom comes with release.........deep absorption in a activity......all that built up pathology....manifest and release.....