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Compulsive Lying

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I don't know how to start this and I'm not saying this to defend myself.. I'm trying to work on not lying, but I sometimes find it hard, so I'll just say it as is.

Due to my past, I saw lying as a way to stay safe and survive. If I told the truth(that they don't want to hear), I knew I'd get beaten up and if I was caught lying then even worse. So I learned how to lie very well. Of course starting out, it was very obvious I was lying and my abuser choked me so hard that it left a bruise on my neck and I passed out. I don't remember how old I was but I was younger than a second grader.

As I got better, I also became interested in psychology and how to read body language though due to my past, I have become sensitive to the emotions and behaviours of other people. If someone is upset, at me or not, I'll find them "scary" and I avoid them. I learned how to control my body, forced myself to express body language that an honest person would without making it forced. I've learned how to manipulate people, I've gotten better at stealing items, cheating, and being deceptive. When I was younger, I thought nothing of it since I did all of that during the years of my abuse.

The only reason I stopped stealing(on a daily basis) was because it got too easy which bore me. It was no longer fun.

It was noted that I had a rather distant or aloof appearance. I would seem cold and very selective with who I would show some level of affection toward, but at the same time make sure I kept relationships superficial. I didn't care for other people, and to be honest, I wouldn't have cared if they died. I feign emotions and affectionate behaviours just to get the people to trust me and come closer, and if I feel they need me to show weakness as well, I lie about it. Something realistic, sometimes weaving in a tiny bit of truth, but it's never the cold hard truth.

I learned that the best way to lie and make it seem believable, is don't put yourself on a pedestal. Don't make yourself the hero, but don't be so quick to blame yourself either. Be realistic and don't let yourself be such a big deal. I lied mainly to stay out of things and not get too involved with others.. relationships of any sort is complicated and just a mess.

Anyways. I've gotten older and I finally met someone that I care deeply for. She is an amazing friend and just the thought of her dying makes me cry myself to sleep. I can't stand it.. When I first met her, I definitely lied and manipulated her some, but I knew she wasn't stupid. I knew she wasn't an easy believer, and so I made sure to give false truths. But then we became closer, I actually liked her and she was quite entertaining, so I let her in closer.

With age, I also slowly stopped talking so much which meant less lying since there were little opportunities. I did not stop lying, I still do sometimes just to see the reactions of people. A few people thought I was mute, until I met her. I started talking again, laughing, and actually being animated..

Sorry, this has become an essay. If you haven't noticed, she is the main reason I am worried about this. I've noticed(and remembering this from before) that some days I enjoy lying. I feel almost like I'm on top of the world (not really, but my confidence level goes high and I feel like an asshole.) and that's when I'm lying left and right, invasive with my body language, manipulative, you name it. I enjoy it, I love watching the people squirm at how uncomfortable they become due to what I've said, and I love how they're all like puppets and I can tap on their strings. I don't make myself to be the one in the middle of the crowd since I have social anxiety and being center of attention scares me. I'm usually doing this to a few people or if I'm sitting near, in front of them. But even on those days, I don't do much to my friend.. besides, I've let her in close enough she's learned to notice my change in behavior and she'll sometimes play along.

Then there are other days where my confidence level is low. (it's not a sudden change. It takes time or sometimes if I'm having a good day, whatever that boosts my confidence, I return to being an ass.) I'll still lie, but I'm also less talkative, sometimes not at all. I'll look back on the days I am confident and call myself an "asshole." I hate that I am that way and I hate how I can so easily lie and be so believable. I'm not sure what this is really. I become a bit different when I am having a confident day. Since I am more talkative than usual, more of my not so favorable side of me comes out. Witty, brutally honest, manipulative, sharp tongue, sometimes even feigning compassion to make people I give a darn for them... When I'm not as confident, I can still be witty and crack morbid jokes. (my humor is dry by the way, probably because of me being able to lie well.) but I'm not as manipulative or brutally honest. I'm definitely a lot more quiet and soft spoken. I don't think this is another personality since I feel I have full control over both, but I'm not sure what it is. Maybe I'm just occasionally a jerk. I am trying to, at least, not lie to my friend but sometimes I just sputter lies, believable lies, and I'm scared to tell her that they aren't true. I can tell when she doesn't believe me and when she's lying, and I can tell that she truly believes these lies. Some are small and it really doesn't matter, but one day I slipped and gave in; I told her a somewhat big lie.

I don't know what this is so if any of you guys know anything about this, please let me know. Thank You.
 
I don't know how to start this and I'm not saying this to defend myself.. I'm trying to work on not lying, but I someti...
You will get caught. You don't think you will but you will. It could take years but it will happen. And it won't end well. People don't like being lied and manipulated and they sure as heck don't tolerate theives. It may have worked when you were a child but it won't as an adult. That said if you want a relationship, you have to give up enjoying the lying, stealing and especially using people as pawns.
 
Yes which is why I'm trying to get help for this and stop. to be honest, I don't care about the other people. If they find out or not, but I do know that I risk indirectly affecting my friend and that is my main concern. Other than for my friend, I feel nothing for the others.
You will get caught. You don't think you will but you will. It could take years but it will happen. And it won't end well...
 
Do you have PTSD or does someone you know have PTSD?

Do you have a therapist? If not, you need one.

A lot of what you wrote sends off warnings in me. It sounds a lot like an abuser. Or, at least, what an abuser would do.

You are being abusive to people and to say that you don't care about people, and wouldn't care if they died is ringing complete lack of empathy. There are several disorders thay have complete lack of empathy.

But, in any case, you can change if you really want to but I believe you need therapy, and to be very open, HONEST, and candid in therapy, and work hard to make very real changes.
 
Do you have PTSD or does someone you know have PTSD?

Do you have a therapist? If not, you need one.

A lot of what yo...
Exactly. I have a hard time having sympathy for somebody that out and out cares for nobody but themselves. The thing about that is...you will eventually direct that towards the friend. Do not even attempt a relationship until you get ALOT of help.
 
Do you have PTSD or does someone you know have PTSD?

Do you have a therapist? If not, you need one.

A lot of what yo...

Yes I have been diagnosed with PTSD and I am working with a therapist, soon a psychiatrist. I started to talk a bit about the lying and so far everything I've said to her is true. I do plan on keeping it that way. I don't know why I only have affectionate and compassionate feelings toward the one person.. maybe she's just so nice. She's so easy to manipulate, but I actually started to like her and I felt bad so I openly told her that I said a few lies to see how she would react.
 
When someone comes on here, and is honest about recognizing their faults and wanting to get help, we need to encourage them to seek that help, not berate them for admitting they know they are flawed.
(and no wonder they felt the need to post anonymously)

Compulsive lying is a disease.
The fact that you recognize this, and the need to change, is such a good thing. Keep on being honest with your therapist, it's the best thing you can do for yourself.
 
When someone comes on here, and is honest about recognizing their faults and wanting to get help, we need to encourage t...
You're right. As somebody effected several times by people like that and to hear somebody say how much they don't care is difficult. Thing is, you can't change for somebody else. It rarely lasts. You have to change because you want to as a person.
 
Aye! you need to have a very good memory to be a good liar, and if you are like me, and suffer from a poor long term memory, then you have no chance of getting away with it for long?

There are large gaps in my memory going right back to my childhood days, right up to present days. I've been told that my brain has locked away the bad times, to a corner somewhere in my brain so that I can't get to them.

However, the sudden jolt from the sound of a brick coming through my window, shocked my brain in such a way, that it released some of the bad times memories.

Thank God it never released them all!
 
Do you by any chance also have difficulties with feeling bored and having a lack of emotion in general?
 
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