Medical How Do I Deal With Abusive Doc System?

[Ronin]

Guys how do I deal with doctors given they've been in many ways long-term abusers, to size of country I don't have many choice options about them, need health care & can't explain a lot of injuries? (As in I know perfectly well how & where & when I got them but can't disclose it to those people.)

(Also: out of country treatment currently isn't an option / financial reasons.)

What I've been so far tossed at has been a lot of appearance based discrimination and the classical tropes of 'can't even possibly know what that is, because dumbass.'

I'm at loss here and want to ask it before being too done to ask for assistance sinks in.
Also gaslight screws with me because reality confusion sinks teeth in way fast and I'm rather quick not trusting my head out of fear wrong choices / understanding of situations will lead to people killed.

 

[Friday]

Reframe.

So.... What do you do when you want something from an enemy? (And simply taking what you want is saved for later).

Give them no power // Take away the power they already have.

^^^
My starting point.

 

[Ronin]

Take away the power they already have.

Thankie. :) Also, considered, but I'm dealing with particularly stupid and toddlerfitting enemy when informed.

And playing dumb hasn't worked for me very well because that's back to giving power.

Not good with stupid & entitled. Smart & entitled are another animal.

 

[Ronin]

So.... What do you do when you want something from an enemy?

Well taking the small bits. Widening the amount of bits that gets taken until in position to deal with the whole thing / leave it behind altogether.

I'll think on this, what of it is doable. :ninja:;)

 

[bluebird]

Remember you are in control now. You come freely. And as free as you stepped in, you can leave again. No one has power over you, so don't let the fear fool you.

Imagine them like me - a few years ago, they used to be worried sick about not succeeding at school... It didn't change with the MDr. They are just human. Weak, fragile, normal human - no villains with superpowers.

The health care system is shifting towards the client-like point of view. It's not that different from going to a public library and asking for help with so me books, if you look at them from that point of view...

Hope it helps a bit... This kind of thinking works for me. Distinguishing now and then. I wish you good luck.

 

[foreveralone2099]

remember that you're the boss and you can fire the f*ckers as you please.

helps to know your stuff; docs complain all the time about patients with internet connections but that's just because they got lazy with the continuing education.

 

[digger]

remember that you're the boss and you can fire the f*ckers as you please.

I think this can vary widely depending on which country you're in and the system you're having to deal with. In the UK at least it's rarely that simple an option.

 

[Ronin]

^^

This. I'm in a country doctors can't name right the number of organs in a human body. Let alone know their functions. Unless they can somehow relate it to reproduction. Then they'll say everything of them is that problem and leave the matters be. As it's all about the sex, obviously. :banghead:

 

[scout86]

So, unless you get lucky, there's a limit to what one of these doctors can do, because they aren't good at their job? I'm going that there's a chance there might actually be a good doctor around, if you can find him/her.

One way to maximize the odds of finding a good doctor is to ask a nurse. Seriously, they know. Ask someone in a related profession what doctor THEY go to.

I have a situation where I live where it's hard to find a veterinarian who knows more about horses than I do. (This really shouldn't be that hard!) As much as possible, I handle that by finding one who's kind of lazy and will just sell me the drugs I need without bothering to get involved. Maybe, in some countries, that would work with human doctors too?

 

[Ronin]

One way to maximize the odds of finding a good doctor is to ask a nurse. Seriously, they know. Ask someone in a related profession what doctor THEY go to.

It's a good idea :tup:

I did with one. She gave me a name of a hospital to ask around at. They told me they're requiring a lot of referrals and reports that I just don't have. Probably should try reasking about that, reading medical portals & news wasn't much more informative as if they're even legally allowed to do that. A lot of bureaucracy that's super shady & using very loosely defined laws as a shield of why it's 'necessary'.

In every case, thank you for that idea Scoutie, I'll think on it more.

 

[scout86]

Bureaucracies are tough. The best way I've found too negotiate them is to find someone inside the system to walk you through, if you can. Good luck!

 

[corvidae]

@Ronin support. wish i had good advice, but none at the moment. if i think of some, i'll definitely share.