This topic is anything but simplistic. There is nothing black and white about anything stated above^. Treatment is not an event, a magical day that changes it all. Often treatment is over a course of possibly 10 yrs. Like many illnesses, often receiving the diagnosis does not insure treatment. Often clients don't take meds given and argue....still believing their own perceptions. Treatment is not black and white. Symptoms often lessen with age...even without any treatment.
Educating the world is not black and white either. For some, it can be very empowering. However, there are people with mental illness that prefer to keep it private as they care too much what other think and the stigma associated with it. Sharing can be dangerous to their own well being-and in that case, it would be best to see a different perspective of mental illness, and that perspective is that it is your own private business and are not obligated to share for the greater good of all. For those that are empowered by, and are able to take such a stand-go for it. Again, there is no black and white road map here for how all should behave.
BPD does not require trauma as a factor....that is in the new DSM. The previous DSM said BPD was cause by trauma. I tend to agree with old but just an opinion.
As for my 40 yr old daughter....who I can technically call treated. She has abused her children, her 20 yr old is in jail for drugs, the 18 yr old mentally challenged due to abuse and neglect is a prostitute. After these two, she had abortions and miscarriages and then another child, who died of SIDS at 4 months. While she was freaking out and on xanax and the police were investigating because the weed found in the house, I took out a loan to pay for a funeral. Her and her SO had got nearly $6000 tax refund and had $300 left in less than a month. They could not get the 3 yr old to speech therapy due to transportation, but could get their butts to Walmart for car loads of junk, and to get drugs. Awaiting autopsy, she left her small children and went to the beach in Florida until they were cleared of wrong doing. That was in 2000. Then she had another child. She has spent most of her energy in criminal activity. Mostly shop lifting, minor drug dealing and such. She has been arrested many times. She was with her partner on a drugging binge when he shot a drug dealer. She was with friends who robbed an old lady and she did a couple years in prison for that. She never showed any gratitude for me taking custody of her 7 yr old, only complained that her child got more for christmas that she did. I had to pay her to babysit for just a few hours. At 40, she doesn't drive, she can't because of fines from her untreated maniac days. I take her to dr appointments and appointments for her minor child who now lives with her and is 14. She lets her run the streets. My granddaughter has been picked up by
police at 2 am on school night and sent to rehab for use of weed and alcohol. When I have tried to address the neglect with my daughter, she blows up and is defensive. As recent as last year, she has attacked her boyfriend. She once put him in a wheelchair for 2 months. I have lost more nights sleep worrying about getting the call that she is dead or back in jail. She says she will commit suicide before jail. Over the years, she has conned every member on both sides of her family, stole her grandmothers Adavan....She has no trouble asking a near stranger for money for some thing she actually needs or just to con them. My family tolerate but avoid....just the way it is. This is just a few high points and does not even address the past daily dramas. To be honest, to sum it up, she is the most selfish person I have ever met...she does not consider another persons position easily, but does work to do so with employees now. She doesn't want to be bothered by her own kids. This is after 10 yrs treatment.
As with any illness, there is a continuum of severity....^she is not unusual.
Educating the world is not black and white either. For some, it can be very empowering. However, there are people with mental illness that prefer to keep it private as they care too much what other think and the stigma associated with it. Sharing can be dangerous to their own well being-and in that case, it would be best to see a different perspective of mental illness, and that perspective is that it is your own private business and are not obligated to share for the greater good of all. For those that are empowered by, and are able to take such a stand-go for it. Again, there is no black and white road map here for how all should behave.
BPD does not require trauma as a factor....that is in the new DSM. The previous DSM said BPD was cause by trauma. I tend to agree with old but just an opinion.
Maybe it is because most do not follow treatment in any way. Maybe you are an exception to the rule. I am very sincerely asking you why you think people run for the hills when you tell them you have BPD? The OP asked a legitimate question and I took it at face value...why the majority of people who are familiar with this diagnosis avoid people with BPD. I am only stating my opinion and my experiences so no need to shoot the messenger. If others do not respond honestly, then there is nothing to learn from this.Not to the point of being undiagnosable yet but stable and managing. But yet, once I say I have BPD, even though my symptoms are now being managed, people run for the hills. Why?
As for my 40 yr old daughter....who I can technically call treated. She has abused her children, her 20 yr old is in jail for drugs, the 18 yr old mentally challenged due to abuse and neglect is a prostitute. After these two, she had abortions and miscarriages and then another child, who died of SIDS at 4 months. While she was freaking out and on xanax and the police were investigating because the weed found in the house, I took out a loan to pay for a funeral. Her and her SO had got nearly $6000 tax refund and had $300 left in less than a month. They could not get the 3 yr old to speech therapy due to transportation, but could get their butts to Walmart for car loads of junk, and to get drugs. Awaiting autopsy, she left her small children and went to the beach in Florida until they were cleared of wrong doing. That was in 2000. Then she had another child. She has spent most of her energy in criminal activity. Mostly shop lifting, minor drug dealing and such. She has been arrested many times. She was with her partner on a drugging binge when he shot a drug dealer. She was with friends who robbed an old lady and she did a couple years in prison for that. She never showed any gratitude for me taking custody of her 7 yr old, only complained that her child got more for christmas that she did. I had to pay her to babysit for just a few hours. At 40, she doesn't drive, she can't because of fines from her untreated maniac days. I take her to dr appointments and appointments for her minor child who now lives with her and is 14. She lets her run the streets. My granddaughter has been picked up by
police at 2 am on school night and sent to rehab for use of weed and alcohol. When I have tried to address the neglect with my daughter, she blows up and is defensive. As recent as last year, she has attacked her boyfriend. She once put him in a wheelchair for 2 months. I have lost more nights sleep worrying about getting the call that she is dead or back in jail. She says she will commit suicide before jail. Over the years, she has conned every member on both sides of her family, stole her grandmothers Adavan....She has no trouble asking a near stranger for money for some thing she actually needs or just to con them. My family tolerate but avoid....just the way it is. This is just a few high points and does not even address the past daily dramas. To be honest, to sum it up, she is the most selfish person I have ever met...she does not consider another persons position easily, but does work to do so with employees now. She doesn't want to be bothered by her own kids. This is after 10 yrs treatment.
As with any illness, there is a continuum of severity....^she is not unusual.