• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

BPD Why are people with borderline personality seen as bad people?

Status
Not open for further replies.
This topic is anything but simplistic. There is nothing black and white about anything stated above^. Treatment is not an event, a magical day that changes it all. Often treatment is over a course of possibly 10 yrs. Like many illnesses, often receiving the diagnosis does not insure treatment. Often clients don't take meds given and argue....still believing their own perceptions. Treatment is not black and white. Symptoms often lessen with age...even without any treatment.

Educating the world is not black and white either. For some, it can be very empowering. However, there are people with mental illness that prefer to keep it private as they care too much what other think and the stigma associated with it. Sharing can be dangerous to their own well being-and in that case, it would be best to see a different perspective of mental illness, and that perspective is that it is your own private business and are not obligated to share for the greater good of all. For those that are empowered by, and are able to take such a stand-go for it. Again, there is no black and white road map here for how all should behave.

BPD does not require trauma as a factor....that is in the new DSM. The previous DSM said BPD was cause by trauma. I tend to agree with old but just an opinion.

Not to the point of being undiagnosable yet but stable and managing. But yet, once I say I have BPD, even though my symptoms are now being managed, people run for the hills. Why?
Maybe it is because most do not follow treatment in any way. Maybe you are an exception to the rule. I am very sincerely asking you why you think people run for the hills when you tell them you have BPD? The OP asked a legitimate question and I took it at face value...why the majority of people who are familiar with this diagnosis avoid people with BPD. I am only stating my opinion and my experiences so no need to shoot the messenger. If others do not respond honestly, then there is nothing to learn from this.

As for my 40 yr old daughter....who I can technically call treated. She has abused her children, her 20 yr old is in jail for drugs, the 18 yr old mentally challenged due to abuse and neglect is a prostitute. After these two, she had abortions and miscarriages and then another child, who died of SIDS at 4 months. While she was freaking out and on xanax and the police were investigating because the weed found in the house, I took out a loan to pay for a funeral. Her and her SO had got nearly $6000 tax refund and had $300 left in less than a month. They could not get the 3 yr old to speech therapy due to transportation, but could get their butts to Walmart for car loads of junk, and to get drugs. Awaiting autopsy, she left her small children and went to the beach in Florida until they were cleared of wrong doing. That was in 2000. Then she had another child. She has spent most of her energy in criminal activity. Mostly shop lifting, minor drug dealing and such. She has been arrested many times. She was with her partner on a drugging binge when he shot a drug dealer. She was with friends who robbed an old lady and she did a couple years in prison for that. She never showed any gratitude for me taking custody of her 7 yr old, only complained that her child got more for christmas that she did. I had to pay her to babysit for just a few hours. At 40, she doesn't drive, she can't because of fines from her untreated maniac days. I take her to dr appointments and appointments for her minor child who now lives with her and is 14. She lets her run the streets. My granddaughter has been picked up by
police at 2 am on school night and sent to rehab for use of weed and alcohol. When I have tried to address the neglect with my daughter, she blows up and is defensive. As recent as last year, she has attacked her boyfriend. She once put him in a wheelchair for 2 months. I have lost more nights sleep worrying about getting the call that she is dead or back in jail. She says she will commit suicide before jail. Over the years, she has conned every member on both sides of her family, stole her grandmothers Adavan....She has no trouble asking a near stranger for money for some thing she actually needs or just to con them. My family tolerate but avoid....just the way it is. This is just a few high points and does not even address the past daily dramas. To be honest, to sum it up, she is the most selfish person I have ever met...she does not consider another persons position easily, but does work to do so with employees now. She doesn't want to be bothered by her own kids. This is after 10 yrs treatment.

As with any illness, there is a continuum of severity....^she is not unusual.
 
"People with Borderline Personality Disorder are disgusting, manipulative pigs/monsters and they should not be trusted."

Not everyone is the same!

Hurt People hurt people

Not everyone is the same!

As for my 40 yr old daughter

Not everyone is the same!

Meaning just because one person that has BPD went to jail for all sorts of illegal shit, doesn't mean that everyone with BPD are like that!

they are not bad

AGREED!

FYI: I have never been arrested in my life and I am a clean addict.

However, there are people with mental illness that prefer to keep it private

Awesome! More power to them. That is not what was asked. What was asked is why are BPDers seen as bad people. The answer is bad experiences pushed onto the remainder of BPDers and lack of education. My opinion.

she is not unusual.

Nope but she is also not every BPDer and that is the issue. All of what you typed is her. Not me not anyone else on this thread but her. That's the issue.

So you advised:

BPD is very easy to spot for most therapists. Actually, while in training, as their professors describe the BPD person, most students will relate to knowing someone that fits that criteria. Often that student is not a close friend to the BPD and has avoided the drama or have been burnt in the past by them. Even professors warn about having more than a couple clients with BPD. They are a lot of work. They will forget their co pays....as any client could.....but the borderline is pushing the limit and if you see them, they will forget it next week too. Just as you said that you manipulate to protect yourself, that is not really true. I believe that you do believe that, but manipulation is not the best form of protection. It is the therapist job to see the unconscious goals presented by the client as well as what they are reporting to the therapist.

"They" statements which I hate! They do this, they do that. Generalizations are rarely good to do.

They are a lot of work. They forget their co pays. They will forget next week too.

No, I, a diagnosed and still fit criteria BPDer, doesn't and don't and am not.

That is the issue, in my opinion. Generalizing everyone, all BPDers, into your own personal experience instead of researching BPD to learn how most is or many are etc.

And yes, since Jody Arias advised she had BPD in her trial and my family look at me like I am going to have some sort of psychotic break, I have needed to educate people.

I really have no idea what we are disagreeing about. You are using your daughter as an example of what BPD is like and I am telling you that no, that is how she is, not how BPDers in general are. Unless I am missing something you are saying.

I agree that they deserve respect and are not bad people. So I am failing to see what we are disagreeing about.
 
@lotforgottensoul-I really don't think we are disagreeing so much....I agree with much of what you are saying....not everyone is the same. I did not create the post or use the term "bad"...the words "good" and "bad" are generalizations and often involved polarized thoughts to begin with.

I use my daughter as an example and she is at the far end...as many....but many are not as well. You are correct. Jody Arias (without the murder) is not that unusual either for BPD. Unlike anti social PD, BPD have a conscious but often ignore it. There are outliers in any group, and maybe you are an outlier....

I used my daughter as an example that was personal, but in my professional field I have worked with many with BPD, diagnosed many, and treated. Because of the stigma, we often defer diagnosis if at all possible and as a last resort if it can be otherwise explained in another diagnosis. BPD is not "bad", not "hopeless" and when motivated have very positive outcomes. It is things like Jody Arias that the public hears about and likely identifies with when told "I have BPD".

I have used examples, such as forgetting a co pay, you are taking them out of context at every opportunity, in attempts to prove me wrong. Those with BPD are often the hardest clients that any therapist will encounter. I am just being honest and if you don't believe it...go to grad school and study it...then get back to me on it. We need to treat all people with the same respect....there is no good and bad disorders or illnesses.

Addicts Lie....
That is the nature of addiction
Addiction is a disease
You can argue that there are addicts that don't lie all day long
Word of advice...if you are dealing with an addict, you should expect to be lied to..
Addicts recover...
Addicts in recovery often do not lie, but they don't deny that they lied when in active addiction...it was survival
 
I give up.

I don't need to study BPD, I live it every day.

I am also an addict, a clean addict that has never lied about it, to get it, or to use it. Just saying.

Over and out.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom