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Triggered At Tai Chi

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Sandstone

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Tai Chi and Qi Gong are an important day to day tool for managing my symptoms and getting into better contact with my body. OH and I attend a class weekly. It is always a challenge, starting with the instruction "Aware the body". I always have to fight with myself to stay mentally present, and often to stay physically in the room. Until yesterday I've only left once, within 5 minutes of arriving on a day that was so bad generally that I know I shouldn't have left the house.

Yesterday a woman from another class joined us, and wanted to talk about Tai Chi's origins in fighting. The instructor will often make passing reference to a move as being used this way, and I find that hard, but manageable. The more this woman commented on "Oh yes, I see, this is a double handed block..." the less able I was to function, and I kept finding myself standing frozen with my arms crossed protectively across my chest and throat instead of working on the moves.

Eventually I knew it was leave or cry, so left, quite quietly, ten minutes before the end.

On the way home I thought that I would have a quiet word with that woman next week, explain that I had a bad experience of not being able to defend myself and ask her if she could mention it less. OH actually offered to do it for me, but I said it was my job. I was quite distressed for the rest of the evening, but put in a lot of thinking. I'm not sure now if I have any right to speak to her - isn't her right to use the class the way she wants as great as mine? Possibly greater, as I am the one wanting an exception? Is this something I should just find a way to manage? I don't want to stay away from the class, which is my natural urge. I will not give in to my fears to that extent.

It may be that she will not be back in our class, but there is a strong chance the two sessions will be amalgamated as numbers have dropped over winter, so I think I need a resolution. I realise that while the attack stuff disturbs me it is the (failed) self defence that is really triggering. I never defended myself, I always froze.
 
It sounds like she needed people to know that she knows about tai chi - that she isn't a newbie if that makes sense. When I've come across people who feel the need to explain every move it's because they feel insecure.

I think it's fair enough to ask tell her you find her commentary difficult and she can then decide to continue or not. Is she an instructor? If not, is there really a need for her to comment? Could you talk to your instructor about it?
 
Tai Chi and Qi Gong are an important day to day tool for managing my symptoms and getting into better...
sounds about right its difficult to avoid the fact tai chi has its origins in the martial arts but generally tai chi is learned as a relaxation / meditation exercise and it sounds like the instructor intends the class to be just that as he/she only touches upon the martial origins of tai chi. it sounds like your class mate is missing the point of it a bit and would be better of going to a tai chi class specifically for martial use or a kung fu class but you are right she does have as much right to be there as you. Its a tricky thing asking people not to do something which is not actually illegal or blatantly rude just because it is triggering people can feel like your trying to control them. I would try to respect there motivations for being while at the same time having boundaries and being clear on were i stand in terms of why I am taking part in it.
 
No, there is no need for her to comment, I think she is just a chatty, outgoing person. Our usual group is made up of quite silent people, which I like, but can be a problem when no-one will dare answer the instructor's questions.

I had wondered about speaking to the instructor, who I'm pretty sure has observed my difficulties in that past and adapted our exercises around them. yet I don't want to be a special case. I'm not sure what I would say to her beyond apologising. As I walked out yesterday, she said "oh, do you need to leave?" but I couldn't reply.

.The conflicting views in my mind are that I always take too much on myself when sometimes I should not shoulder the blame and should ask for help versus I'm responsible for my actions and other people have rights too. So, as usual, I'm frozen in indecision.

Today, I'm tending more to think that I need to manage it myself - my trigger, my problem - but I know I'll change my mind about that several times. It is hard to work out what I can do when I'm already engaged in something that is one of my best tools but at the same time pushes me to my limits because it is physical, public and difficult.
 
yes in long term PTSD learning how to cope with triggers is important because people and the world are never always going to behave how we would prefer at the same time we need to work on triggers in a way that is not going to overwhelm us.
 
An update

I went the following week it was hard, but I did it. The instructor asked what had happened, but with everyone else present I gave a very vague and garbled reply. I made up my mind that I had to deal with it myself, but other things made the following weeks impossible. I've been in a very tough place, and am only beginning to surface.

The instructor phoned to ask if was OK, and I was able to explain a little more. Once she understood, she also commented on things she had said herself that I found difficult, but also understood why Tai cih/Qi Gong were so useful to me. I said I have no right to ask people to change their behaviour because of something in my past, and she said no, she didn't have that right either, but would have to think about a way round it.

She called yesterday, and said that she had arranged for this woman to attend another class, without explaining my situation. I can't believe how kind she has been. I can't believe that explaining even a little hasn't had dire consequences. I am so grateful.
"All" I have to do now is find a way to leave the house for the first time in 3 weeks, to do something beneficial, but so challenging without falling apart.
 
@Sandstone, do you meditate? I meditate daily and have been considering Tai Chi as another way to ground into my body. How do they compare?

Also, who is "OH?"

Can't you get the instructor to say something to her that leaves you anonymous? Am I confused?
 
OH = other half.

The instructor did,
without explaining my situation.

I don't meditate, terrified of it letting me access stuff I don't want to know. Tai Chi is good because it requires me to be present and focussed on controlling my body instead. Do ask more if you want.
 
Tai Chi and Qi Gong are an important day to day tool for managing my symptoms and getting into better...
That is really tough. I can relate, sometimes I have to stay away from exercise videos because of that very same reason. My reasons are rooted in the fact that I reported on several female predators who have retaliated by sending vicious predators into my path. Their furor is only matched by their stupidity. However, I often cringe when female instructors in exercise videos use language that remind me of these pathetic female criminals, mirroring their pathetic attempts of finding reasons for their crimes.
 
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