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I work in the Chemical Dependency field. It is interesting to me that many clinicians in the Chemical Dependency field are still pointing that finger in your face, and saying, "you are in denial; you are an addict". It seems to me that many individuals aren't even being trained in trauma issues as the root problem, right? I would say on average, the majority of "addicts" have a history that could be diagnosed as PTSD at least; even if "complex PTSD has not gotten into the DSM5, (the mental health and substance abuse, diagnoses manual). Seems to me, once the trauma is addressed, the drug and alcohol use problems get better; any experiences with this?
 
I Am a recovering addict/ alcoholic with 32 yrs clean.
From the age of 14 to 34 drugs saved my life. Sure I made messed up choices and all that goes with using.
But with the stuff I was carrying since childhood it did keep me from suicide.
I don't know if I could have handled a DX of PTSD when I first got clean. Tho it would have answered so many questions..I HAD to get clean and stay clean.
I was finally diagnoses in '92. Up until then I just thought all that pain I was feeling was part of my 12 steps. In my case, ignorance was bliss. There wasn't that much known about PTSD back then, and certainly not for civilians.
I can say this, the chicken (getting and staying clean and sober) had to come before then egg(PTSD).
I stuggled with severe depression and anxiety for 8 yes before I found a T that heard me. I told her there was something wrong with my brain..Not my mind. I prided myself in being high functioning with the depression. I could no longer function with the anxiety. Being in 12 steps stopped me from asking for pharma help unto I became almost completely non functional.
At that point I didn't care what anyone thought..I had to get my brain tended to.
One of the drawbacks from not knowing I had PTSD, is the constant feeling of failure in "not getting better" mentally, tho I did not drink or use.
So when I got my DX I was so relived to know that I, Ladee, was not a lost cause, I was not a failure..
I wouldn't have received the proper theraputic help back then, and certainly no support.
But I look back at the people I was in rehab with...and pretty sure we all had PTSD from the things we shared with each other and groups.

But I can say 12 steps helped me to build a strong foundation for the work I had ahead of me with finally knowing I had a direction to go with PTSD.

This is a very interesting topic. Really looking forward to what others have to share.
I wasn't in denial about my addiction. But I had nothing else to hold onto, not at that time.
But when I was ready..I checked myself into rehab.
Sorry this was so long..but deeply appreciate the topic.
Looking forward to what you and others share.
 
I work in the Chemical Dependency field. It is interesting to me that many clinicians in the Chemica...

Therapy does not work. Therapist don't want anyone to get better. They just want to make you dependent on pharmaceuticals. If you want to help people you are in the wrong field. The psychiatric field is just in the business of addicting people to pharmaceuticals.The sooner people become aware of this the better.
 
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I worked in the residential vocational rehab field for over 13 years and observed many professionals in the field sweeping reported traumatic events and such under the rug very comfortably, or simply dismissing it as something someone "should be able to be adjusted to by now that they're an adult ready for the working world, or what they often referred to as "the real world"", in their ignorant and highly scripted words and assessments.

Even the mental health professionals I was directed to seek help from outside of that organization for my own needs after speaking up in trying to hold them accountable for several unethical things I had observed through the years didn't acknowledge ptsd as even a remote possibility. I openly and freely discussed my childhood sexual abuse, teen rape, and multiple domestic violence situations that almost ended in death and at least 6-8 professionals (ranging from psychiatrists down to the talk therapists) actively avoided those topics and went straight for the diagnoses of severe depression, severe anxiety, severe adhd, severe insomnia, etc., etc. along with multiple prescriptions to "start off with" until we could figure out what works best.

They never once mentioned or even somewhat acknowledged the things I discussed regarding potential ptsd. However, they worked diligently at getting many different meds in me that seemed to always serve to complicate things instead of making things better. Eventually finding a shelter that offered counseling services for free to survivors helped me better realize what I was wrestling with inside and helped me better understand cptsd. I can't help but to think of all the stories we see in the headlines each day that read, "We don't know what happened, but they were seeking mental health services.", and the person gets automatically labeled as unfit/unstable/criminally insane/etc. Then I realized how easily that could have been me had I snapped under the pressure of their expectations and misinterpretations instead of handing in a letter of resignation. Grrrrrrrrr.......

Then I decided to change my lifestyle of consumption to eliminate animal products and artificial stuff in an attempt to find even more relief after learning how deep the deception goes in that arena, too, regarding what we've been told is safe and healthful and necessary and all. That's been a whole new level of uncovering addiction that no one ever seems comfortable discussing or acknowledging....food/drink/external hygiene and cleaning products, etc. Hardcore addicts, we are, with highly marketed pushers on every f'n corner convincing us we are simply "treating" ourselves, even in the hospitals supposedly meant to nurture us back to hell-th. It's maddening, really.

You're absolutely right on target in your assessment, I feel. Until the higher institutions of learning feel it's necessary to teach up and coming professionals that many rely on these significant details that could actually help us help ourselves, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with more of what we've currently got. It's always interesting, I find, to see who all is funding these various places and studies, too. Then there are times I wish I was still uncomfortably unaware as the blatant f*ckery of it all infuriates me as I watch those I love suffer needlessly.
 
Thank you for this thread. It has brought a lot to the for front for me. Very interesting topic and it is close to home. I will try to make a reply a little latter. not in a good space right now. Thanks for the post and for all the replies so far.
Peace be safe
 
I have been in recovery for 37 years, and spent 5 years as a inpatient and outpatient chemical dependency counselor. I have had PTSD symptoms from age 5, 20 years before DSM111 first listed PTSD as a condition..

Drugs and alcohol kept me from suicide from age 13 to 23. Although I identify as an addict and have been C&D since 1980, I actually believe I was just self medicating. There would have been no way to address the PTSD until I got clean and learned how to live clean. That has to come first. Then therapy for PTSD has a chance.
 
I worked in the residential vocational rehab field for over 13 years and observed many profes...
laugh, "nurture us back to hell th" I completely agree with you, and it's what I see too. I sold medical supplies, and many of my friends, were in "big phara". I am very interested in what you found with nutrition; what was effective? I am reading research on yoga/meditation, excersise, bio-feedback. Have you tried some of these?
 
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