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anthony
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No arguments from me. I totally agree with you that there should be different types of PTSD, but when you look at the symptomology (is that even a word) its all the same. Depression, hypervigilence, flashbacks, anxiety etc, etc.
Its the trauma that is different. We the military are exposed constantly to traumas for a prolonged period where someone who is involved in an auto wreck where death is involved is but one instance.
I am not saying that the individuals don't suffer as much as us the veterans, its just different.
The other factor which makes us different is that we have been exposed to some sort of military conditioning which has wired us differently. We think differently to the standard 'John Brown' in the street. And the longer we serve the more ingrained it can become.
Its the trauma that is different. We the military are exposed constantly to traumas for a prolonged period where someone who is involved in an auto wreck where death is involved is but one instance.
I am not saying that the individuals don't suffer as much as us the veterans, its just different.
The other factor which makes us different is that we have been exposed to some sort of military conditioning which has wired us differently. We think differently to the standard 'John Brown' in the street. And the longer we serve the more ingrained it can become.
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anthony
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People should not confuse symptom severity with classification. Classification, there is only PTSD. That's all that physically exists. That diagnosis then has a range of different symptoms. Some meet more than others, and they also meet them at greater severity than 7 out of 10.
Severity is usually graded, hence why you hear things from professionals such as Severe PTSD, Complex PTSD, etc.
They are not diagnoses, they are severity scales. One should then not confuse that with trauma type, ie. Combat PTSD, also which does not exist, its purely a term coined to quickly depict that the person is a veteran and got PTSD from combat.
As a diagnosis, there is only PTSD, and it should not be broken apart into classifications... that would be extremely detrimental to the overall doctrine that many physicians already struggle with so much, just having one diagnosis for PTSD.
It would be the mother of all f*ck ups if they ever did that.
Severity is usually graded, hence why you hear things from professionals such as Severe PTSD, Complex PTSD, etc.
They are not diagnoses, they are severity scales. One should then not confuse that with trauma type, ie. Combat PTSD, also which does not exist, its purely a term coined to quickly depict that the person is a veteran and got PTSD from combat.
As a diagnosis, there is only PTSD, and it should not be broken apart into classifications... that would be extremely detrimental to the overall doctrine that many physicians already struggle with so much, just having one diagnosis for PTSD.
It would be the mother of all f*ck ups if they ever did that.
My reference is in response to being broken apart into different classifications.
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anthony
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No, it doesn't matter... the trauma type is irrelevant to the diagnosis, other than abnormal trauma was endured.
You can have endured abnormally traumatic events, have symptoms, yet still not have PTSD, as PTSD is not just a theoretical assessment, it encompasses a practicable component and severity scale. So you could have every symptom at a severity of 3 and not have PTSD. If you had the minimum symptom requirement and each was a 7+, you would have PTSD.
This is how people are diagnosed, treated, then no longer meet the criteria for PTSD. Once that symptom level is below diagnosis for your worst day, then you no longer fit the criteria.
Anthony, I'm sure you've already put the information in the right place, but could you please remind me where to look for the symptom/scaling model?
(I ask because I'd like to think I was making some progress)
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anthony
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Some information about PTSD diagnosis can only be found within the DSM itself and clinical training doctrine.
Some information about PTSD diagnosis can only be found within the DSM itself and clinical training doctrine.
Understood, and thanks, Anthony.
reddevil1111
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AS I look back at the conversations I had about medication, about therapy. Things are different for each one of us. I think we as combat vets carry and dont deal with anger in the same process as others. Yes all PTSD makes people mad but the killing rage we get is very different.
Its kind of like all cars are cars. But a yugo and a mack truck are very different. You dont want to meet my mack truck head on.
We cycle with regret/remorse and anger faster as well I think. We have more of a soup to deal with.
And I think a lot of PTSD combat vets suffer from other problems that began prior to combat. Abuse, Prior PTSD issues, It all makes us more likely to be unable to deal with the stress as we already are overfilled with stress.
I look back at my military time and the things I saw and did. I cant begin to relate any of that with a car accident. Or even a rape.
I first joined that other sister site not knowing about this one. I didnt google combat I just looked up ptsd...the whole time I knew it was a bad fit. noone in there could relate to anything I said. There was no anger. It felt like a place to eat granola and sing songs around a campfire.
I cant say thank you enough for this site Anthony. This is the only place I can come to vent and relate to others.
Its kind of like all cars are cars. But a yugo and a mack truck are very different. You dont want to meet my mack truck head on.
We cycle with regret/remorse and anger faster as well I think. We have more of a soup to deal with.
And I think a lot of PTSD combat vets suffer from other problems that began prior to combat. Abuse, Prior PTSD issues, It all makes us more likely to be unable to deal with the stress as we already are overfilled with stress.
I look back at my military time and the things I saw and did. I cant begin to relate any of that with a car accident. Or even a rape.
I first joined that other sister site not knowing about this one. I didnt google combat I just looked up ptsd...the whole time I knew it was a bad fit. noone in there could relate to anything I said. There was no anger. It felt like a place to eat granola and sing songs around a campfire.
I cant say thank you enough for this site Anthony. This is the only place I can come to vent and relate to others.
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