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I am new here and I hope I do not step on everyones' toes.

I think we are talking about our own selves in a safe way. We can talk here and not be judged, and we can share our feelings that everyone here understands.

"I" hear you. "I" do not give any credence toward what other people think or perceive about "Me" because who they see is not "Me." "I" am not "here" and so "I" really don't care. "I" have had myptsd for 55 years. I don't care if "I" am invisible, "I" am not here. "I" am busy creating myself, to be the person " I" always see myself to be. They do not know "me" because "I" am forever changing to be the best "me" "I" can be.

"I" know trauma is nothing new because my life has always been traumatic and with each trauma I gain a new preception of myself. "I" have always seen myself by that image of what I will be and I work hard towards becoming that image of who "I" will be. If that makes any sense. "I" am a work in progress on being the best "me" that "I" can be.

I have experienced MyPTSD throughout
my life. I call them "flares" just like my Fibromyalgia flares and because I know there will always be trauma in my life and those feelings and symptoms do go away, until I get triggered again. There is no cure, but we all can get better.

My biggest triggers were my family. They have worked hard for the last 10 years to get me into this "flare", so what. I have gotten myself out of it 5 times before so I know it won't last much longer. I do not have a family any more so my triggers are gone too and that suits me fine. Why would I ever want to stay in that situation with them always working on triggering me and wanting me to kill myself.

They do this to me because they are jealous of me. They do not see me as suffering as they do. Well, that is what my mother was telling me. So Wrong! I don't have ideas of suicide, because I do not want to die, but I do want to live.

I think we just want to feel something, anything. "I" am strong and well experienced at this and that is all "I" need, plus some decent meds and some talk therapy and I am ready to go.

I know that people who have never experienced PTSD can not fanthom all the symptoms that come with a flare, can not understand what PTSD is, and have no clue how it alters our lives. This includes many physicians. They do not understand what PTSD really is and how it effects me. I have been telling the doctors how to treat me. Alot of the doctors see me as rude, uncontrollable, raging mad and very aggressive, duh. I am still shaking my head that they are actually doctors. There are no Psychiatrist in my Medicare Advantage Plan, no doctors know how to treat me. So just give me my meds and continue bilking Medicare, because they have just given me something to work on. I am busy blowing the whistle on them. F_ck with me when I am flaring and the "I" that they see is going to be the one in their nightmares, lol.

Cry if you want to, don't hold it back. Show what you are feeling, and do not let them make you suffer. I can talk all day about each and every traumatic event I have experienced, I have been doing that all my life. I know what holding it back will do. It will destroy you.

My former family are all living proof of what happens when you hold it back and deny that it ever happened. They have never had a life because they can not admit what happened to them and what they do to others or how to deal with their own PTSD.

My father is deceased from Cancer, my mother is a borderline personality, one brother is a true narcissist, paranoid and believes he is God's only son, and the other brother has been trying to kill himself the slow way (drugs and alcohol with Hep C). At least he understands that he has serious issues but he still will not talk about it. It must be total hell to be them.

I know each of us have our own demons to deal with, but talk about what you are experiencing and listen to all we each have to say. It is safe here. You will come to understand why you feel the way you do and you are not alone, because you have so many friends here to support you, feel for you, and truly understand you.
Once you understand those feelings you can deal with each of them when you can.

I have been triggered for years now because I allowed my family to mess with me. Actually, I am the only "sane" one in the family. I knew at age 2-3 that I didn't like our babysitter and neighbor and I had a very real tantrum in the middle of the street with my family and the neighbors. I knew then that it was wrong because it did not feel right. By age 6, I understood that our family was very different than other families. I was 24 years old when I was diagnosed and I lost 3 months of my life, and "I" am here.

I am thankful for the support groups for chronic pain, because it allows me to be me. I am not perfect, and actually I have alot of flaws, but that is what makes "me" me.

There were a few that has PTSD and we can talk about our feelings. You can talk about and share you experience her and learn from each other how to deal with what ever is making you suffer, or you can just listen.

Support groups are my savior. I walk out feeling renewed, full of life, because we can laugh at ourselves and the best part is...everyone "gets it." I have learned so much by talking with others like me. Just airing my way of life and sharing what I have learned.

I have sometimes read posts here when members are "recognized" on the street as sufferers of PTSD. Simply be...
 
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@Rad sorry you re experiencing those isolating feelings. I live in the US and like others have said I’m not sure our country “gets it” but people do love tossing the label around jokingly. And it is more associated w veterans than the general population. I’ve been working w my therapist for 5 years and we have been kind of learning together what cptsd and ptsd are for me and how to treat it. I still wince a bit when she says “trauma”. As many others have said I think it is difficult to talk to someone bout it who hasn’t experienced it. I had my first intense nightmare-ish flashback only a few months ago and I thought I legit was going crazy and I found this forum and people here were nice enough to tell me I wasn’t and I have found by reading other people’s stories, even just day to day things, that there’s others like me who get it. I think there’s been several times I’ve taken more comfort in this forum than other things bc I know people get it, even if we don’t have the exact same background. I am sorry that your country makes it difficult and isolating but remember you do have us here and I hope that provides some comfort.
 
Is there a secret ptsd hand signal or something that I don’t know about?
:eek: You don't know the hand signal?!?

Okay, Its a bit complicated but very important, especially as you may run into others attempting to wish you solidarity and good will, and you want to be able to join in the cheer!

... Make a peace sign & turn your hand around. :sneaky: Voila!
 
Of course it is not possible to have a batting average on sight analysis of an PTSD Diagnosis : I agree. However, it has occurred frequently in my life by others of me and then me assisting others during flashbacks when triggered or with their disassociation where I taught.

Yes, the majority were active service or receiving their benefits, so perhaps my random sampling is a bit skewed from the ‘norm’. But it was no laughing matter to see them go through increased symptoms and relive their combat trauma. They rarely announced it publicly in class, it was always in private or after class. And those service people offered to me the words that they knew their own (in reference to PTSD).

I offer this in the hopes that if someone in 3D does notice (for they may also have it) that it has at least been posted, that recognition can happen. Thanks for listening.
 
Please share your formula if you can!
I say "I have PTSD" Most people give me a blank look, so I say "Something happened in the past that was so bad my brain can't register that it is over"
Having learned that the next question will invariably be "What happened?", I continue before they can say it "So, for instance, I constantly expect to be attacked from behind. " ( that is true, though it wasn't part of any of my traumas ) They usually say "Oh my goodness, did that happen to you?" and I wave my hands dismissively and say "I don't like to talk about it."

I am not willing to explain any of what actually happened, but this way I have communicated both that it was terrible and that it wasn't my fault, without actually lying or getting into confrontation, or making the other person feel bad for asking me. I think most people have no real idea of PTSD, so it is important to be kind to them rather than make them feel bad for their ignorance.
Using this formula usually results in them being quieter and gentler with me, which helps me to be calmer.
 
I've been trying to learn all I can about the disorder to better support my guy. His family on the other hand have no clue what he goes through. He a combat veteran with multiple deployments and injuries. You'd think they would pick up a book about the disorder. Nope.

His mom one day said "why is he so crabby?" I lost it and said "because he has PTSD from combat, I thought you would have known that by now"....
My family is a little different though. They have done their research and asked me questions and J will share with my dad too. He was airborne also.

I think I'll buy books on the disorder for everyone as Christmas presents. ;)
 
For us uniforms we have encountered many situations of trauma that could or would trigger this entire forum in one way or another. Our traumas are specific encounters or volume of encounters.

Mmmmm, I would say that the same thing applies regardless of type of trauma. I've dealt with
being taken hostage and held at gun point for 24 hours, several other assaults at gun point
(once w/machine gun) many other instances with knives, clubs, fists. Several serious car accidents
one so severe it held up a four lane highway into a major US city for hours. And yet each of
these incidents, which by themselves might be enough to qualify as a precipitating event
were a walk in the in the park, to me, compared to what I experienced in childhood. Remember
you can walk away from an abusive adult who is unarmed if you're an adult, but cannot as a child.
The key thing is whether there was a fairly real expectation of severe bodily harm and/or death.
And also, I would add, what the relationship of that person is to you.

And as for the combat vs civilian thing. It was decades before I could even consider myself
as having PTSD, because both I would tell myself (and was also told) "well, it wasn't combat."
I was able to keep my symptoms hidden, and when I did tell anyone they would either use
the info to harm me
(NPD/APD types revel in using sensitive info to gossip/harm), diagnose me improperly
or they would get angry at me!! I was the strong helper type, so they needed me to stay in
that role. And besides, there was no way I could have any issues because I was so stoic.
The fact that I regularly holed up for weekends drinking straight out of the bottle staring at
the wall was completely hidden.

The attitude that if it's not combat or serious natural disaster/accident, it's not
real, kept me from pursuing help for years. Kept me dealing with the wrong type of
help/meds that either didn't help or worse, caused real damage. Kept me on the outside
and feeling like a freak. Support groups with people who were having bad break ups
were totally unrelatable.
While I get that having support groups that are geared towards type of trauma makes sense,
I know that for myself that I would rather have a hundred memories of threatened harm by
strangers or mere acquaintances than one of harm by my parent who after harming me,
to the point of putting me in catatonic state (at very young age), would spent the next
while humming happily to herself. This happened multiple times. And yes, while
I do get that seeing people harmed/killed
would be terrible beyond belief, being threatened to be killed by your parent is another
terrible beyond belief kind of thing.

It's unfortunately a very real thing, although it
doesn't seem to make the cut of being threatened with death and/or severe bodily harm
compared to combat. I might add the childhood sexual abuse often doesn't seem to
make the cut at all, and yet, SA survivors seemed to be the only folks (besides other
survivors of severe abuse) that got where I was coming from as they shared the same
type of symptoms and often far worse. Severe childhood neglect is also another type
of thing that can trigger PTSD. What meets the criteria for expectation of serious
bodily and/or death for a child is totally different for an adult. An adult who is capable of
sexually abusing, severely neglecting or otherwise abusing a child is in reality capable
of just about anything. Once those boundaries are crossed, you just don't have any
idea what that person will do next. And the scary part is, I think often, neither do they.

You just cannot tell what will put a person at the threshold. For all of us it's different.
I think we should be careful about creating a hierarchy of traumas, consider in many
cases it might not be accurate. The incidents I experienced above that are in some ways
spectacularly traumatic are fairly trivial to me in terms of what my body has stored as
traumatic memory. I wasted a lot of time on these memories (therapists loved these)
but they were not what were driving my symptoms and I got nowhere. Childhood trauma
and abuse is still considered by some as somewhat shameful, better to forget about it kind
of thing. Maybe you're just, fill in the blank diagnosis, and looking for excuses kind of
thing. The bottom line is people are quick to ascribe their successes in life toward their
own talent and hard work, and not luck. Other's lack of success is often viewed as laziness
and lack of talent. It's just how we are. We also don't like to consider that the sweet
old neighbor down the street might be a malignant abuser. Or that the super successful
auto engineer that gave us that nice family and friends discount on our next car is sexually
abusing his daughter.

There's still a lot of push back regarding other types of abuse that can cause PTSD. Let's be
careful not to add to it further.
 
When I was found out at work, the most common reaction I saw from people was, "Ooooh. That's what wro...

You didn't misread that. I don't think I'd be as twitchy around doctors, if I hadn't been put on psych meds and called "crazy" as a kid to hide my folks' abuse. And I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't get nervous around ER rooms, if I hadn't been told I was "crazy" and thrown into psych wards while trying to get medical help for critical health issues caused by being trafficked.

I don't blame the cops, the doctors, or the ER staff. And I know that it's something that's going to take time getting through -- the idea that they're not malicious or accuse me of lying. It takes time, and it takes a lot of positive self-talk to remind myself that they're not the ones who hurt me... and the ones who did hurt me, didn't mean to because it was a communication breakdown that nobody had control over.

They aren't trying to hurt me, and they aren't responsible for being triggers. I've simply got more work to do, in terms of deprogramming myself of that childhood's horrors. Psychiatric abuse isn't always recognized, because the survivor's the one who has to prove he's sane (among other things). Part of the process of healing, and not being easily triggered anymore, is recognizing that communication breakdown.

After that, it's just a matter of accepting that even doctors are human, too. People are born intelligent, they're not born omniscient, and they often have to go by what's immediately observable. That doesn't always mean they're correct in assessing the situation, they do the best they can with what they are given.

That's a different type of trigger than simply not liking cops or doctors, based on what you read in the papers. Either way, both suck.
 
@WishfulThinking123, I agree with you when you say people don't believe you just because you're able to talk about your abuse in a matter of fact way. My abuse happened when I was 8-11 years old. I've been through therapy many times because of it. I still have a T that I can go see if things start to get out of.control. Otherwise, you would have no clue the hell I live with every day. 50 years later and the PTSF has not stopped, just gotten easier to deal with.
 
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