So how's that working out for anyone eles? Better than me I'd hope, at least when I'm self medicating I sleep and am functional, I finally agreed to go on meds after years of refusing them and my T doesn't want to prescribe me anything as I've started EMDR and want to see how I respond to treatment, I meditate, do pressure point tapping, breathing, grounding exercises, in the day I'm good for the most part, In the night is a different story, I don't want to relapse anymore, I've been slipping a bit here and there lately but I've been sober again since Friday, I actually enjoy being sober but I'm having a really hard time coping, any suggestions people? I'm running out of gas over here, fast.
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ILoveLife
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There's two apps I use.
SoberGrid and SoberTool. Might be of use. :)
Good luck
SoberGrid and SoberTool. Might be of use. :)
Good luck
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The PTSD Stress Cup is a hugely useful tool / overview of how we’re affected by stress / for managing stress & symptoms.
Like how the days distractions can keep us managed, or how the stresses can pile up over a day -with no outlet- to crash hard af night.
Kicking into avoiding stress & numbing symptoms? Been there. Not a habit one can sustain long term. Not if you want a life outside of a bubble. Fortunately there are a helluva lot of useful tools for managing stress, burning off stress, getting things into a pattern you can work with.
Like how the days distractions can keep us managed, or how the stresses can pile up over a day -with no outlet- to crash hard af night.
Kicking into avoiding stress & numbing symptoms? Been there. Not a habit one can sustain long term. Not if you want a life outside of a bubble. Fortunately there are a helluva lot of useful tools for managing stress, burning off stress, getting things into a pattern you can work with.
blackemerald1
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Hey @bhm - well done for starting treatment, making a decision to get sober and reaching out here.
My only advice is to keep reaching out here and develop good sober relationships.
Go to AA programs if you are not already (or similar) depending where you are.
Just keep trying and know you are not alone. :hug:
My only advice is to keep reaching out here and develop good sober relationships.
Go to AA programs if you are not already (or similar) depending where you are.
Just keep trying and know you are not alone. :hug:
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Hey thanks i'll check it out
cherileisman
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@bhm lean on anyone you need to to help you through, man. The light in me honours the light in you and I'm throwing goods vives to you!
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Well I've sobered up, took a shower and am going back to group this morning, hopefully find out when therapy will resume? This sucks because I've found that I have started lieing to my therapist sometimes about certian things as I've kinda noticed sometimes they dip into the "c'mon you already know this!" Routine because I work in feild and have a good knowledge base of trauma, mental health and addiction issues, I've heard co workers have similar issues with clinicians at times also, but I mean, if I could fix myself I would, I dont particularly enjoy this and obviously need some help, group was good this morning and I actually had a pretty good day, I even got an email from the educational advisor at the local college I contacted to arrange a meeting! Riding a bit of a wave today, hope I can stay on board! Yikes!
ladee
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@bhm, I got sober before I was diagnosed with PTSD. I had about 7 yrs clean when that bomb got dropped. But it was a good bomb, in the end. In fact, in many ways, it helped me to stay sober. Because I knew people in the 12 step rooms, were not qualified to help, I sought out serious therapy.
I will be the first to say that 12 step programs are not for everyone. Have said that being a member. There are so many options and so many different modalities today, that finding something that resonates with you, I would encourage you to participate. Being with other people who understand, and support, and so the tough love that is required, is worth it.. Truly hope you find something that 'fits'.
12 steps was all that was available back then. And it did help me build a foundation for what was ahead. I did CBT with my first T who was also very activity involved with recovery from addictions.., Which, again, helped to add to my foundation for the PTSD work that was ahead.
I can share that without those first people calling me on my shit, learning that you can't bullshit bullshiters was a relief. No need to lie or try to manipulate, they already knew all those tricks. So in many ways there was relief in that.. I could stop playing all those con games and get down to learning to live sober..
What ever our drug of choice is, chemicals, sex, food, gambling.. ect.. are only symptoms of what lies underneath. I'm sure you know that already. Don't mean to be singing to the choir. Just as any acting out or self harm we do is a symptom of PTSD.
We have to find root causes.. and trying to stay clean, and feel all that came up, was a straight up bitch. Add PTSD to the mix... I'm a miracle writing this.. I left 12 steps, I used Narcotics Anonymous because I related to the people in those rooms more. Felt at home going to a meeting with Harleys parked outside !!! But I stopped going when I felt I knew how to stay sober.
I think it's awesome you are adding being here and asking for help , to your recovery plan. Many in recovery here from 'drugs of choice'.
Our brain and body was already messed up from the stress and abuse , and putting chemicals on top of that, well, sometimes it just is hard. Feeling like juggler with too many chain saws in the air at the same time.
So the more help and support you have, the safer you will be. By that, I mean, you have substance dependency people who understand why drinking or just taking a few of these, or a few tokes off of this, hey man, it'll get me thru the night.. I so get that .
Support, no matter which path you choose with that, is very important. Someone you can call and say, Man I want to drink so bad I'm coming out of my skin. It's all I can think about, and to hear that person say, I get it, and let you talk it out, and hopefully listen to what that person did to get thru the hard times.
Just like with PTSD support. We get to tell a T, peers, like being here, get it out. And then be willing to listen to how others worked thru the hard times.
There is NO easier softer way. You can quit drinking. You already know that. It's the starting up again we all have trouble with.. Support. Just like with PTSD, support. A T if you have one. And if you are not being honest, it's not the T you are lying to, it's yourself..
You can do this. Many many people got sober and stayed sober, but they also had to change a lot of things. I know this is a lot of words. It's the only way I know right now.
You sound like you want off that roller coaster. Then get off of it, and do what ya gotta do to not get back on it. Simple, not easy.
I'm grateful I had my chemical addiction addressed before I had to start working on the PTSD. But many people are here for you, for both of them.
We can not do this alone. Well, we can, but it's a miserable existence.. we are just drunks who aren't drinking.. if that makes sense..
Glad you are here. Hope you can find something that helps with the support of not drinking. Hope you find answers to many things going on with PTSD... depends on what kind of life you desire..
I wish you well on this hard journey. Glad you are here, and reaching out.. hopefully some one will say something that resonates, and gives you something to hang onto, to start building a new life. It's possible. Keep reaching out. It's a bitch for sure, not gonna lie. But we can do this. Again, glad you are here.
I will be the first to say that 12 step programs are not for everyone. Have said that being a member. There are so many options and so many different modalities today, that finding something that resonates with you, I would encourage you to participate. Being with other people who understand, and support, and so the tough love that is required, is worth it.. Truly hope you find something that 'fits'.
12 steps was all that was available back then. And it did help me build a foundation for what was ahead. I did CBT with my first T who was also very activity involved with recovery from addictions.., Which, again, helped to add to my foundation for the PTSD work that was ahead.
I can share that without those first people calling me on my shit, learning that you can't bullshit bullshiters was a relief. No need to lie or try to manipulate, they already knew all those tricks. So in many ways there was relief in that.. I could stop playing all those con games and get down to learning to live sober..
What ever our drug of choice is, chemicals, sex, food, gambling.. ect.. are only symptoms of what lies underneath. I'm sure you know that already. Don't mean to be singing to the choir. Just as any acting out or self harm we do is a symptom of PTSD.
We have to find root causes.. and trying to stay clean, and feel all that came up, was a straight up bitch. Add PTSD to the mix... I'm a miracle writing this.. I left 12 steps, I used Narcotics Anonymous because I related to the people in those rooms more. Felt at home going to a meeting with Harleys parked outside !!! But I stopped going when I felt I knew how to stay sober.
I think it's awesome you are adding being here and asking for help , to your recovery plan. Many in recovery here from 'drugs of choice'.
Our brain and body was already messed up from the stress and abuse , and putting chemicals on top of that, well, sometimes it just is hard. Feeling like juggler with too many chain saws in the air at the same time.
So the more help and support you have, the safer you will be. By that, I mean, you have substance dependency people who understand why drinking or just taking a few of these, or a few tokes off of this, hey man, it'll get me thru the night.. I so get that .
Support, no matter which path you choose with that, is very important. Someone you can call and say, Man I want to drink so bad I'm coming out of my skin. It's all I can think about, and to hear that person say, I get it, and let you talk it out, and hopefully listen to what that person did to get thru the hard times.
Just like with PTSD support. We get to tell a T, peers, like being here, get it out. And then be willing to listen to how others worked thru the hard times.
There is NO easier softer way. You can quit drinking. You already know that. It's the starting up again we all have trouble with.. Support. Just like with PTSD, support. A T if you have one. And if you are not being honest, it's not the T you are lying to, it's yourself..
You can do this. Many many people got sober and stayed sober, but they also had to change a lot of things. I know this is a lot of words. It's the only way I know right now.
You sound like you want off that roller coaster. Then get off of it, and do what ya gotta do to not get back on it. Simple, not easy.
I'm grateful I had my chemical addiction addressed before I had to start working on the PTSD. But many people are here for you, for both of them.
We can not do this alone. Well, we can, but it's a miserable existence.. we are just drunks who aren't drinking.. if that makes sense..
Glad you are here. Hope you can find something that helps with the support of not drinking. Hope you find answers to many things going on with PTSD... depends on what kind of life you desire..
I wish you well on this hard journey. Glad you are here, and reaching out.. hopefully some one will say something that resonates, and gives you something to hang onto, to start building a new life. It's possible. Keep reaching out. It's a bitch for sure, not gonna lie. But we can do this. Again, glad you are here.
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