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News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

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The science behind why soap and alcohol based cleaners kill coronavirus - The Guardian

so, what is the best kind of soap? I have like the normal liquid hand soap (Softsoap) and dawn dish washing soap. I also found 2 bars of Dial under my sink. I have a little bit of Doctor Bronner's baby unscented which is pure castile soap. I only have a tiny bit of the hand bars soap left. I mean, a very small amount. Maybe I can squeeze just a few hand washings with them. But I do have the shampoo. I hate how sticky it makes my skin and hair feel though and only had it cause of the bad eczema on my scalp and needing to put coconut oil (tried many others including hemp oil but coconut seems to work the best) and the shampoo is super concentrated and lasts forever. Though I always have to use "normal" shampoo after to get the stickiness feeling off.

Anyway, can deal with sticky hands if pure Castile soap is what's needed.

I can get more of the pure castile soap online, I'm thinking. I was wanting to check out soap makers on Etsy. Support small busineeses! But wanted to know whats the best kind of soap for Covid-19 if not all "soaps" are made equal.

Doctor Bronner's hand soaps are still avail on Amazon for the same price as before all of this.

What is everyone's thoughts of the best type of soap for this virus and where to obtain it in the States?

ETA: The Doctor Bronners shampoo I have it mixed with water. 1 part shampoo to 4 parts water and then have a foaming nozzel on it so I could use that for hand washings. I have a half of a bottle left which in normal use a bottle lasts me like at last 4 months if not 6. But it's the shampoo. Not the body soap. Does it matter?

ETA: This: Do all-natural soaps and cleaners protect against COVID-19? is saying that any soap will work. I am understanding that to mean even Softsoap hand soap. Not sure how realiable this source is. Didn't dig really.

I do have Clorox wipes and have been using them too. I have a tinnie tiny bit of Lysol so been using that sparingly.

The small keychain sized hand sanitizer I have has 62% alcohol so thats good. Have to go to therapy and I am in SOOOOO much pain. I want to go to the grocery store to see if I can get a few things I need but not sure which store and if I will make it through. I am not sure if I should try Aldi. They are likely sold out cause they are small. Their produce is crap. But not sure if I can make it through another store. I keep telling myself I can make more then one trip but the likelyhood of getting myself back out once home is small. Ugh! I hate this! I hate that I have to go grocery shopping when I have groceries. Just dont have a few things to make a few meals. This so sucks!
 
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Any kind of soap is fine. The most important thing is washing thoroughly. Including between your fingers and under your nails.

About the groceries. IDK what you're lacking, but you CAN improvise. Recipes are just suggestions of what's worked in the past. If it calls for milk, you can probably use water, or cream, or beer. Think about what's the function of the ingredient you don't have and then what have you got that can perform same function, even it tastes different.

Make a list before making a trip to the store. Go to a store where you know your way around and feel somewhat comfortable. Fresh produce is nice, but not essential and it has a limited shelf life.
 
Fresh produce is nice, but not essential and it has a limited shelf life.
Yep.
About the groceries. IDK what you're lacking, but you CAN improvise. Recipes are just suggestions of what's worked in the past.
And yep. Especially easy if you're just cooking for yourself. The only person who has to eat it is me :tup:
 
I like this map

Me too! I write down the numbers every day.

Consider reducing it to a window of time at least - once a day.

Really good advice! I make myself so depressed I just want to go back to bed. I've reduced my time a lot.

Sometimes feels like something out of the Twilight Zone or Black Mirror. So surreal.

So true! I keep thinking in the old way of "everything is fine" when the new way is "you have to think before you risk yourself and others". Most of my town hasn't changed anything, but the people on Nextdoor, a website in the US for communities, have been much more gracious and kind. I did a seedling exchange with another homesteader who lives down the street. A lot of people on the website are offering help to others, and the grumpy ones dropped off. My nextdoor neighbor took huge offense when I asked her 30 something son to not walk through my garden, and she has had enough of me. Lol. That was months ago, and yesterday evening she was telling her friends and husband that I have too many projects. In a really scathing voice. Then her husband said he thought I was using the wood for firewood. Then she didn't believe I had cancer, so I shut my window and turned up the music. Really? Can't you think of anything else to talk about? The whole world is involved in HELPING to solve huge problems and she is criticizing me for having projects.
 
@lostforgottensoul - Yeah, @scout86 is right. Any soap. Try to not overthink it. The key is liberally using soap, any soap.

Washing hands 20 seconds also matters a lot, especially backs of hands and fingertips. Some sing the Happy Birthday song. I have memorized 20 second positive affirmation style mantras I say when washing my hands. I have also been taking deep breaths every time. I am hoping my brain begins to associate hand washing not with fear and anxiety, but a moment to calm.

Lesson learned today: Just like the first release of software is usually the most buggy, the same appears to be extremely true for pandemic responses and management.

If attempting to access at the hour for immune compromised/disabled/elderly, it is better to wait until after the first day they do this.

I went to one store today, to try it out. They had something in stock that I needed fairly badly. My doc gave me a ridiculous amount of protective gear if I decided to go and told me to wait until there were no crowds. I went to a store that generally rarely has people. (Not even sure how it stays open other than being part of a huge chain.) I should have just asked a friend to go for me. There were no crowds this morning. Just two people. I decided to risk it. I had a note from my doc and a copy of the ad about the special hour, just in case. I went in, no issues, and midway through picking up the item, an employee came over and started yelling (wtf with all the yelling?! Calm the f down people, you can not scream the virus away!). She was yelling for me to GET OUT NOW. I asked why, and she explained I wasn’t a senior. She called me an asshole for even being there. How dare I. Holy moly... She didn't need to yell it. I pulled out the doc note that I’m immune compromised, and the store ad stating this hour included folks like me. I could barely even say it before she she indicated it didn’t matter, it was seniors only, not the immune compromised or disabled, and she was calling police. I walked to the front stuffing a panic attack, where the store manager happened to be standing by the door.

I told him I was leaving as requested, but asked to speak to him. He said sure, and I explained what happened and showed him the note and store ad. He said “I don’t know what’s going on I just got here.” He ended up letting me stay, said it was totally fine, that yes it was designed for folks like me as well... he even offered to have someone walk with me if needed, and I said no. I just needed to get in and out. When I went back in, the first woman followed me around glaring at me. The manager told her I was allowed in but she still followed me glaring and shaking her head. Moron. To get her to leave me alone, and to calm my nerves about her possibly screaming again, I held up my phone to video her following me, and she walked away out of sight with out a word. Problem solved. I got what I needed, but holy moly...

To top it off, one of the cashiers was rambling away loudly about how she just got checked for pink eye. I didn’t stay long enough to find out the results of her test. wtf wtf wtf... This is why this store is always empty!

If you can, I recommend going the second day when they have crap like this all figured out. Hopefully...

Flexibility is key. A young woman tried to walk in after me, was told to leave, and walked out in tears. I asked if she was ok... clearly not... I just couldn't walk by someone crying in the rain without saying something... She said they shamed her for trying to go in... I explained what happened to me, and that yeah, it's really hard. We chatted for a moment, at greater than the recommended distance, and we both lamented about how nothing is predictable anymore. Not even store hours. They had changed them overnight. Everything is changing. As we parted, she said something people say a lot around here now. "Stay safe."

"You too. Be well."

It's no longer "hello" or "goodbye" around here. It's "Are you ok?" and "Stay safe."

I know, store hours changing isn't the end of the world. In developing nations, this kind of constant changing can be ordinary life. It takes a different mindset to deal with than what most Americans are used to having... I find myself going back to my old ways of thinking and being when I worked for an NGO abroad, because it works. Surreal to do it in my city now.

We have had a huge spike in cases in town the past few days, and everyone is super jumpy here. Everyone from hospital workers to young college kids who stupidly partied last weekend testing positive and ending up in our now full ICU.

When I got home, I was so jumpy I startled myself with the sound of my front door opening. Thank you exaggerated startle reflex. Ugh.

I’m going to listen to myself better and follow my own advice to wait until things settle out before I engage any pandemic responses again. It worked to skip the grocery store panic buying rush before businesses closed down... by the time I needed groceries the store and city had that figured out, and when I drove up, someone went into the store to get items for me and I paid in the parking lot. At a safe distance. By the time they do these special hours again, they’ll likely have this sorted out too. People will adjust and settle into a new normal over time.

Last week, they had no bleach, Lysol, wipes, TP, etc, etc, anywhere in my city when everyone was freaking the f out. But today in my city, there was plenty in stock all over town today with every store rationing them so they don’t have a few people buy it all up. They are indeed figuring out how to navigate this novel virus and novel crisis experience.

Now if everyone could figure out how to calm down and stop screaming left and right, that would be nice. Sigh. My nerves...
 
I’ve been surprised in the US this hasn’t been called the “war on Covid 19”
oh ya -- hes calling himself the wartime president and "no one has ever faced this kind of threat" To counter that I believe the scientist are digging up info from the spanish flu to see what they can learn from both an illness and psychological standpoint,
And then there are days like today where I see articles like this one: Link Removed
As for the racism - people need someone to blame.
Trump is calling it the China Disease. When asked why he said because that is where it started and it is their fault we have it now. I wasn't sure I heard it correctly the first time but he said it again this morning. Sadly the people who need someone to blame are going to run with that. I expect to see many, many more attacks on asians of all cultures because most americans can't tell the difference between someone from China, Japan, Korea, etc. It will be kind of like what happened after 9/11 when anyone with dark skin or a turban were assaulted and threatened and mosques were burned down. I'm really worried for my sister who was adopted from Korea as a baby. Even though she is American she said yesterday she is already getting dirty looks when she walks down the street. Quite frankly I'm more scared about her fellow americans than I am about her getting corona. How sad is that?
Anyone wanna escape to Borobudur or Siem Reap with me then?
Amazing sunrises and sunsets and no people. Living the dream.
Yes please!!!
 
@Justmehere That sounds horrifying.
It's no longer "hello" or "goodbye" around here. It's "Are you ok?" and "Stay safe."
This is exactly what I feel. The whole world is going upside down, and it's not completely bad yet, but it's like everyone can feel it coming in the air. Like this slow daily shift in the way everything operates. Less scared of only the medical implementation- and more about the implementation of entertainment industries closing and then people being out of work, borders closing and the economy crashing- in more than 1 country- because of that. Hasn't happened yet, but we are starting to feel the effects, the job uncertainty.

I spend a year getting healthier, finding work security, getting more social, and then- THIS. I am still okay- some of the day. At other times I sink in naps in the middle of the day or feel quiet surreal. But again, we're all going through it. There isn't much solace in that, but makes it more apparent, that we have to adapt, find way to keep our lives going.

What I am greatful for: that this DID happen now and not last year when I was hopeless and barely existing, because then I would have had a lot less stregth in handling it. That my family and friends, even those in different countries, and there are many such, are all fine- well, at the very least, healthy so far. That my national theater will be streaming ballet, opera and theater daily for free. That my ballet class still upheld their reputation of always being open, and help and online video class instead(it was happy relief to be all of us- isolated, but on video altogether trying to dance and laugh at this rediculuous time). Finally managing to buy my old sleep meds that worked best and knowing I am set on them for the next 2 months so I can sleep in all this chaos going on. So there is plenty to be grateful about in this sense.

Still. After so many pandemic-post-apocalyptic-life changing movies and tv shows now being in this situation, it's completely surreal. Even going to the store has this air of tension. People rushing, yelling, stressing. Looking at each other paranoid. Staying a meter from each other. So much for shopping therapy.... I think out of this whole thing the worst effects will end up on the jobs and economies and this is scary. But as I said. There are things to be greatful about. And I will adapt, we all will- what other choice is there? The situation is as it is. Hope all of you out there are safe- as much as that can be true right now.
 
3 deaths in Michigan so far.

People are starting to piss me off. You're working from home because of this virus but you go freaking golfing with a bunch of people and by the time you get home your wife is positive for the virus. So now everyone you were with are now in quarantine. Stay the fuk home!

Please. Please. Please, until this passes assume that everyone is infected. ❤????
 
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