News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[lostforgottensoul]

But honestly? If you have no dosh, no job, a family to feed & care for? Is having a party how you'd expect people to behave in those circumstances? Come On!? I don't understand your thinking there?

Social distancing is social distancing. A few friends, that you know well, as a get together, no problem with that. 20 or more (one looked to be closer to 50)? That's going against direct state and federal orders. Which local orders actually said that 1 or two people you know well is fine but no more then that. Blocking a common area where I have to walk within 6 feet to get to where I need to go, well now you are effecting me with your party and that's really not cool.

I have all the compassion and empathy in the world. Until you stop following direct local and federal orders and put people in danger. This is serious. People need to take it as such. I do understand that we are social creatures and most need human contact and being locked down for so long is very hard. I get that people need fun games to pass the time. I get that all of that. But, again, a few at a time as direct local orders stated. People need to be smart while trying to pass the time and stay sane. This isn't smart and puts people in danager. I am not and will never be ok with that.

ETA: Also, this is why Central Florida is being locked down from Thurs 11pm to April 9th. Because of shit like that 20 - 50 person party. Every night. Not distancing. Ignoring local orders. Etc. People can't follow local orders on their own so they have to force people to follow it. And now that effects everyone.

 

[RVA21]

UK advice for social distancing.

Full guidance on staying at home and away from others

 

[Mach123]

It's quiet. Day one of "lockdown" was like the day before. My wife was reading about how they admitted finally my city has the worst traffic in the country. It gives me an anxiety attack just thinking about driving in there. I hope that has improved for all the people who do it everyday.

We walked the beach which was too crowded for me. Everyday is like Saturday and of course we have to see the dog people acting up. Yesterday we got treated to a woman Chasing her dog who was off the leash, shouting Hysterically, "he bites look out!" As it ran towards a hapless couple with their dog on the leash.

This is the new normal in public places now, all you have to do is chart the occurrences on a graph. I suppose I could compare the feeling this gives me to how people are feeling about hoarders and price gouging. Anyway, the virus is causing me to see more of this sadly. They increase concurrently. More people out and about, more stupidity.

Other than that? Things seem normal enough.

 

[DharmaGirl]

I've been up since 2am, it's 4am now. I had a dream my mom was sick. Washington is now shut down, so I don't know if I can travel to another place in Washington.

 

[somerandomguy]

You might find these graphical visualizations of the spread of covid interesting:
91-DIVOC : Flip the script on COVID-19

 

[mumstheword]

Potential cures/treatments for COVID-19:
Dead Link Removed

 

[ms spock]

@DharmaGirl the footy is Australian slang term for a football game with thousands watching. A ute is Australian slang for a pick up truck.

 

[blackemerald1]

You might find these graphical visualizations of the spread of covid interesting:

^Thanks SRG - those charts are really good.

 

[scout86]

Just realized I don't know what to do with my dog if I have to go to the hospital.

Your vet's idea seems awfully complicated!

First, I'm going to acknowledge that there's going to be a real risk involved if someone has to collect your dog because you're going to the hospital. But then I'm going to add that it's hard to accurately assess that risk because this situation is full of "unknown unknowns". (That might be the only thing Donald Rumsfeld ever said that I liked!)

You don't know what you've got, so we can't know, for sure, if anyone can catch it.

There's more they DON'T know about how this virus is transmitted than they DO know about it. The theory I hear most often is that it lives longer on non porous objects. Your dog is clearly a "porous object".

Remember, this virus is more easily transmitted than something like Ebola, but it seems to be LESS easily transmitted than something like measles. I'm sure there would be SOME risk in someone walking into your apartment and collecting your dog, but I really don't think it's a death sentence. It's not even a sure thing they'd get sick. (And, with the virus in the community anyway, there's no way to know how anyone gets sick anyway.)

I think it's smart to be thinking about this now, I really do. I've been doing some "how do I feed the animals if I get really sick?" war gaming around here too. Maybe think of a calm, rational, dog loving friend and see if they'd be willing to come and get her in an emergency? Then work out the details with them. Some risks are worth taking. A lot of people (like me) will think the "risk" of picking up your dog is well worth the benefit of helping you out in a pinch. If you lived anywhere close (and I can tell by your descriptions of events that you don't, SORRY about that!) I'd have no problem with picking up your dog. I might wear gloves. I might give the dog a bath first chance I had, and take a shower & change clothes myself. I might park my car with the doors open & let it air out good before I use it again. But I sure wouldn't hesitate to get the dog.

I hope you're feeling better soon & this isn't even an issue!

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Your vet's idea seems awfully complicated!

First, I'm going to acknowledge that there's going to be a real risk involved if someone has to collect your dog because you're going to the hospital. But then I'm going to add that it's hard to accurately assess that risk because this situation is full of "unknown unknowns". (That might be the only thing Donald Rumsfeld ever said that I liked!)

You don't know what you've got, so we can't know, for sure, if anyone can catch it.

There's more they DON'T know about how this virus is transmitted than they DO know about it. The theory I hear most often is that it lives longer on non porous objects. Your dog is clearly a "porous object".

Remember, this virus is more easily transmitted than something like Ebola, but it seems to be LESS easily transmitted than something like measles. I'm sure there would be SOME risk in someone walking into your apartment and collecting your dog, but I really don't think it's a death sentence. It's not even a sure thing they'd get sick. (And, with the virus in the community anyway, there's no way to know how anyone gets sick anyway.)

I think it's smart to be thinking about this now, I really do. I've been doing some "how do I feed the animals if I get really sick?" war gaming around here too. Maybe think of a calm, rational, dog loving friend and see if they'd be willing to come and get her in an emergency? Then work out the details with them. Some risks are worth taking. A lot of people (like me) will think the "risk" of picking up your dog is well worth the benefit of helping you out in a pinch. If you lived anywhere close (and I can tell by your descriptions of events that you don't, SORRY about that!) I'd have no problem with picking up your dog. I might wear gloves. I might give the dog a bath first chance I had, and take a shower & change clothes myself. I might park my car with the doors open & let it air out good before I use it again. But I sure wouldn't hesitate to get the dog.

I hope you're feeling better soon & this isn't even an issue!

Or maybe do what some vets are doing. Just pick the dog up from you outside. Maybe the hand off doesnt have to be face to face but most certianly less complicated.

 

[blackemerald1]

You have to eat mummys cooking

^Cracked me up.

 

[scout86]

We know that those shows are all pretty much on par with reality. Most people loose their shit, panic, and end up dead!

That might be a bit of an exaggeration.

People are capable of all kinds of extreme behavior, both good and bad. Everyone admires a hero. (Well, at least more people do.) But, when you think about it, the only way you get heroism is to have some kind of disaster first. I kind of like to think of people "heroically" going about their day to day lives, doing their job, making the world work, but generally, you get heroes in a crisis. You get the opposite too, of course.

One of the things that matters is leadership. As it works out, the majority of people are perfectly happy following a leader and letting that person make the big decisions. Or, without even thinking about it, a lot of people pick up the mood of the environment, and follow along. If you get a leader who's geared towards kindness, compassion, fairness, reason, etc, you get the scenario where "we're all in this together, lets make it work." With a different kind of leader you get "everyone for themselves!" or you get "it's all THEIR fault, let's get 'em!". If you look around the county, you'll see a bunch of examples of different approaches. (I heard on the radio this morning that the governor of Kentucky is becoming a big part of everyone's day with his daily updates. Seems it's become "must view TV")

It's ok to consider the worst case scenario possibilities, but that's probably not the version of reality you want to live in, unless it actually shows up.

In our governor's update, yesterday, he mentioned that they've been looking at cell phone data and it shows people actually aren't gathering in groups as much as normal. We're apparently one of the states that's behind the curve on all this. Less than 300 cases that have tested positive, so far, and only one death. They do say they think there's probably 10 cases out there for every 1 positive test.