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Can you source this claim better please? Whose concrete statements & aimed to whom & in what context, in what location, are you referencing?
https://en.unesco.org/covid19/educationresponse UNESCO is a credible source. As you will see currently it's 91.3% school and universities around the world in shut down due to Covid19.

As I'd be careful with such generalizing statements. Let alone implying a whole class of people - like a whole profession - is being devalued, yet alone vilified.
I have been following this since UNESCO's statistics since #Covid19 shutdowns globally hit 70%.

https://en.unesco.org/covid19/educationresponse

And our Teacher's Union is appalled that teachers have been left in this situation in a first world country. I have spent the day writing about attacks on teachers, which is part of Australian culture, both sides of politics, will scapegoat teachers in order to distract from other issues. The last 50 years of educational policy in my state is something that I have written and researched about in detail.

The attacks in the media, and towards teachers has been pretty full on but not out of character for how undervalued teachers are in Australian culture. Last year one third of Principals were physically assaulted by parents. Morrison has been saying that there is 'medical advice' that schools can remain open, with no journalists asking where this 'medical advice' is coming from, despite WHO saying one of the three back bones of Covid19 management is school shut downs & that a country is not considered to be in shut down until this occurs. He's taken his daughter's out of school and given different responses for why that has happened. If his kids deserve to be kept safe so do teachers and kids.

Private Schools did their emergency planning in January and tested devices in February, this has been in the Australian press. It's Public Schools that have been left without adequate resources or time to prepare for Covid19 which has meant a lot of teachers doing 16-18 hour days to get content online.

Teachers who have preexisting conditions are being pressured to attend schools despite an agreement that this wouldn't happen.

There's been abuse throughout social media and in Murdoch's media.

I have attended PD targeting how to many aggressive, abusive, demanding, & entitled parents who try to bully teachers.

Media attacks on teachers are not unusual but it has reached a whole new level lately.

I'm not really sure that's the case, and if it IS, I'd look at what basis is that claim made.

It is the case and I could send you some detailed analysis that I have written.

Absolutely I have been following the school closures around the world since it hit around 70%.

Even my other teacher friends in Asian countries that have had well resourced Pandemic Offices with PPE training, specially trained cleaners in space suit type PPEs doing deep cleaning, temperatures taken throughout the day, with training on how to wear masks correctly with barriers have had issues. In Australia some schools didn't even have enough soap for all the kids to wash their hands.

You might not find my arguments persuasive and that's not a problem for me. It's most concerning how Australian teachers are being treated, targeted and left in high risk situations at the moment, particularly when there's a whole cohort of 60 plus teachers who are on the verge in my local area.

Victoria has done partial shut down which at least has given those teachers who need to quarantine, like those who have had transplants etc to work from home.

Then there's this thread that herd immunity will sort it out with teachers & kids anyway but as well don't have a vaccine there's a slight issue with that.

I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire by William Hanage https://www.theguardian.com/comment...st-britain-herd-immunity-coronavirus-covid-19


Seeing that you can catch Covid19 again. Prof Kim Woo-Ju, of Depart of Infectious Diseases at Korea University done SARS, Swine Flu Pandemic, Ebola, & MERS. Note at 8.08 he calls those who have Covid19 & get it again as having a "#reactivation".


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President Trump says he stands with the protesters and that governors should open states back up completely and immediately. Interestingly, on Twitter he specifically only called out states with Democratic governors.

What? He put out a 3 phase thing the other day, needing 14 days of no new cases or with a down turn of cases. Did he go back on that?
 
He's taken his daughter's out of school and given different responses for why that has happened. If his kids deserve to be kept safe so do teachers and kids.

^Not correct. His children are currently on school holidays. They, ordinarily attend school in New South Wales (NSW). He has stated publicly to the media (ABC television) last Wednesday after the State & Federal meeting that 'his daughters would be attending school - with face to face teaching in a physical classroom.

He also states that he'd not be asking any parents to send their children if he was not prepared to send his own.

It's worth noting. All Australian States have primacy over education. The Premier of each and every State & Territory makes its own decision as to whether or not to keep schools open.

The Prime Minister has reiterated again & again that each Premier must decide what his or her own State will do. Not the Federal Government.

He's advised primarily from the Chief Health Officer (so that's his medical source) and the other medical professionals who are advising the Federal & State governments re Covid19 and who have consistently said there is nothing to suggest that if a child is otherwise healthy, he or she cannot attend school. The statistical evidence for children under the age of 10 who present with serious complications to covid19 is almost non-existent. That has been the findings of WHO too.

As a result each parent, school & state all get a say in whether or not they will send their children to school.

Apart from that the Prime Minister, has been saying repeatedly that no parent who is required to work & whose child needs an education should be locked out of the physical school system because of school closures.

Apart from that, he, the Prime Minister, is also on record as saying that essential workers, of all types, including nurses & FR"s cannot be expected to do home schooling and also expected to go to work. So a physical school presence should also be given to accommodate students of those parents. What else would you be doing with them?

rivate Schools did their emergency planning in January and tested devices in February, this has been in the Australian press. It's Public Schools that have been left without adequate resources or time to prepare for Covid19 which has meant a lot of teachers doing 16-18 hour days to get content online.

Private Schools had to start planning what they were going to do in early January because a huge amount of their students were due to arrive back in Australia from their overseas homes in late January to start school. Obviously the covid19 - Wuhan experience & the WHO had made it clear that this whole virus thing was going pear shaped. The private schools had to move quickly and they did.

They, the schools and the students, had been put on notice that those students who could get back to Australia, would be forced into quarantine so that they would not expose the rest of the school & etc to the virus.

The private schools decided to notify all of their overseas students about this mandatory quarantine. Therefore, as a result, a lot of those students declined to travel to Australia. Afterall, private schools do not have the capacity to keep quarantine literally several hundred students & provide medical care if any of them became unwell. Over the full spectrum of all of the private schools in Australia who educate students from overseas - that then expands to many, many thousands of young students.

Clearly, if a student cannot undergo & comply with quarantine requirements then he or she could not enter Australia. Of course these students also required adult supervision too. Who could do that? Not the schools. So these students have stayed overseas & are btw continuing their education.

The private education sector expanded their already quite sophisticated online learning capacity quickly because of a couple of important factors. Firstly, it's a given that there would not even be one private school student attending an Australian private school that didn't have access to computers & the internet. Secondly, private schools lead the way with technology in education because to be blunt, they've got a lot of money & do a lot of their educating online anyway.

So no biggie then for private schools & their students. And btw Australian private schools students who resided in Australia continued to attend school till either the parents withdrew their children & opted for the online option, or the school voluntarily closed or the State requested they close.

Teachers who have preexisting conditions are being pressured to attend schools despite an agreement that this wouldn't happen.

^Again, not sure what your Queensland Premier would say about this ^^ but at least at a Federal level, and again in several press conferences (via ABC) I think you'll find the Chief Health Officer & the PM have consistently recommended that anyone
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ho works in the education sector and who is a high risk individual, should not be teaching in physical teaching environments but that they could and should be utilised in facilitating the online education areas that the public schools have been expanding.

^What kind of pressure do you mean? Financial, emotional, mental?? That'd hit the press fairly loudly don't ya think?

It's Public Schools that have been left without adequate resources or time to prepare for Covid19 which has meant a lot of teachers doing 16-18 hour days to get content online.

^It is not the Federal Government's responsibility to micromanage schools & their individual resources & how they go about expanding their online teaching capacity.

Of course it would be really difficult to shut down the physical capacity of a school & send its education responsibilities online quickly so totally agree with you there. Like a lot of things to do with covid19 stuff has been hard. Nobody is getting an easy ride.

There's been abuse throughout social media and in Murdoch's media.

^Why is that special now? Social media is not something any level headed teacher would get mangled up about? There's plenty of training given to teachers about social media. Actually they have to be skilled enough to help their students navigate the evils of online social media. ugh.. Why is a global media empire got any relevance with teachers in Australia doing it tough? I don't understand?

how to many aggressive, abusive, demanding, & entitled parents who try to bully teachers.

^Same old, same old. :rolleyes: There were horrible parents when I was sending my kids to school and it's still going on now. Covid19 hasn't made that issue go away. Why would it? Teachers are pretty well equipped to deal with idiot parents. Try not to worry too much.

Media attacks on teachers are not unusual but it has reached a whole new level lately.

^Source?

In Australia some schools didn't even have enough soap for all the kids to wash their hands.

^So I've found media reports of about five schools who have complained either specifically or generally about lack of soap & water? for their students at schools particularly back in early to mid March.

Again, the education department of each State & Territory is responsible - not the Federal government & really? probably not even their own States. I mean who buys the soap? It has to be on a requisition form somewhere - probably the secretary who answers the phones & orders the toilet paper too? There's no shortage of soap - so a quick trip to the shop would fix that.

It's most concerning how Australian teachers are being treated, targeted and left in high risk situations at the moment, particularly when there's a whole cohort of 60 plus teachers who are on the verge in my local area.

^I think you're over-stating things. I get you're concerned but my friends who are senior teachers and principals think they are doing ok and though they all have issues or some sort or another - there's nothing that they are particularly despairing about. It's very difficult for everyone & but they're willing to work through all of the issues and make the best of it & undoubtedly have the children front & centre for this incredibly difficult year of education.

Victoria has done partial shut down which at least has given those teachers who need to quarantine, like those who have had transplants etc to work from home.

^And all of the other schools in Australia have been afforded the same policy. It's not just Victoria. If you find your own 'cohort' isn't being given the opportunity - do something about it.

Teachers are remarkable & resourceful people so Covid19 will not get them down. :)
 

"I think they like me". All he f*ckkng cares about! f*ck the virus that will spread to everyone "healthy" who goes back to work!

Jesus Christ! He says one thing and tweets another. Watch the next White House press conf be about who was right and who has "fake news". Ugh!
 
@ms spock - I don't see teachers being vilified.

To the contrary, I see the State and Federal governments moving mountains to try and enable teachers to continue doing their job as safely as possible.

Everything is relative. If you think not enough is being done to protect teachers? Consider the receptionist at your GP's office, the checkout chick at Coles, the taxi drivers, the flight attendants, the Uber Eats deliverers...all of whom are continuing to work, and in most of those cases? Despite their high risk environments? SFA is being done to protect them, beyond asking people to stand back from the counter, and use payless options where possible.

Teachers aren't in this alone. They certainly aren't being vilified so far as I can tell (to the contrary, we seem to have knocked up online learning for the first time ever in a matter of weeks).

Strange occupations have suddenly become essential workers. Shelf packers at Woolies, take out delivery drivers. And teachers. They're all being asked to do the same thing - to please keep working in an unsafe world.

But I see far more being done to protect teachers than most people who are being asked to continue working as usual, which teachers aren't being asked to do here.

Some examples for you: high risk teachers have been supported to leave work over month ago now, schools were shut early for the holidays, exams have been cancelled or moved, excursions, school camps and extra curricular activities all cancelled over a month ago, parents being asked to take over teaching their children where possible.

None of those measures have been taken for taxi drivers. For shelf packers. For postal workers. For hairdressers. For pharmacists. I could go on, but you get the point.

Yes, keeping teachers safe is a concern. But I think perhaps your perception that they're somehow being vilified, or insufficiently taken care of, may be a little distorted in the circumstances.
 
UNESCO is a credible source. As you will see currently it's 91.3% school and universities around the world in shut down due to Covid19.
It is. In a world environment that is changing daily, it's hard for any organisation to keep up, but at least UNESCO can be relied upon to give a reasonably unbiased report on the status quo.

And the report you've referenced confirms that 91% of learners worldwide have had their education impacted by the Covid pandemic.

Which is an altogether different thing than saying 91% of schools have been closed worldwide.

I couldn't find any data on UNESCO's website about the number of school closures worldwide. Probably that's because the situation is changing daily, and it's it's impossible to to keep an accurate daily tally.

Perhaps more to the point, I couldn't find anything on the UNESCO website that recommended closing schools due to Covid. That doesn't seem to be something they're recommending.

They have a tonne of information about the multiple different ways to support continued learning where face-to-face learning has been disrupted due to Covid. They're very concerned about vulnerable students being left behind. They're very concerned about the importance of finding ways to continue education for young brains.

But they stop well short of making any kind of suggestion that closing schools globally is necessary, or even a good decision.

Because, that would be a question for health authorities. Not UNESCO.

Citing UNESCO is great, but let's keep our interpretations of their information reasonably accurate, yeah?
 
Terrifying but true.
Is it terrifying?

Or is it the case that the US is one of the only first world countries where citizens still feel free to protest?

I think probably it's a bit of both. The situation unfolding across the US if fascinating. The mortality rate of the virus in some areas is pretty devastating, but that's not true for the whole country.

And, no one else in the world seems either willing or motivated to protest mass closures and lock downs. Maybe that's because mass closures and lock downs are saving lives. Or maybe it's because Americans are just more willing/free to protest. Idk. But it's fascinating.
 
Or maybe it's because Americans are just more willing/free to protest.

Or just love their freedom too much? Or maybe it's frustation for not being able to work, pay bills, keep a roof over their and their families heads and food in their mouths? $1,200 only pays my rent for 1 month in Orlando and nothing else. No other bills nor food. Yes, its more for those in multiple people households but my point is, its not much and doesnt go far. So, maybe its a mixture of both?

My frustration isnt the protests. Though, thats dangerous. Its our President saying two very differnet things!

ETA: I wasnt saying that the stimulus money given to me was to pay rent. Im still working so it didnt leave my banking account. Was using it as an example. Just didnt want any misunderstanding.
 

Ohhhh! He said that he said this for the second amendment! (MI governor wanting to take away guns). It's all about guns. Sure!

And if he wasn't President, the world would be over. Or we'd be at war. No one, at all, could of done it better! Bahahahaha! God, this press conference made me laugh! I needed a good laugh!
 
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