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News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

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Re: Slovakia, think the epidemiologists should consider geography.

As in compared to CR a lot of the areas there are scarcely inhabited / people living in the Tatras, Eastern Slovaks are also very far apart often, the southern people often have families in Hungary so Hungary stats might apply instead, etc.

And the migration is more often TO more movement busy CR... not the other way around.

As well as other nationals not seeing their country as an attractive destination - CR is transitory for heckuva many spheres of businesses & nationalities - to its closeness with actual-goal Germany.

0.02 thoughts. Not sure if applicable / considered factors.... just something I'd keep in mind.
 
Restrictions are easing slowly here. You can go retail shopping, and up to 5 people from one household can visit another household (so long as there's no hugging - and yes, that last bit is an official message from our Health Minister!!).

Can't help wondering if we're jumping the gun. The Federal Government's plan was that there be 4 weeks (2 lots of incubation periods) with no new cases before we can really consider ourselves ahead of the virus. So, even with ramped up testing, it seems like the policy (which really flattened our curve here very quickly - we've been incredibly lucky) is being slowly abandoned in favour of a policy driven mostly by "We're all really bored of this now".

A second wave of lockdowns would be even more devastating for the economy than sitting it out, just a few more weeks...

Or, maybe I just have a history of agoraphobia and the concept of leaving the house to function is just giving me the willies. It's very hard to be objective!
 
Can't help wondering if we're jumping the gun.

^ I completely agree.

I think we should lift small, minor restrictions that are easily re-enforceable if need be, see how we go & then ease up on more & more.

I'm stunned by the news in South Australia.

After fourteen days (14) of no new covid19 cases there, a man who came back from the UK on 20 March, has tested positive. Albeit that he has presented with very mild symptoms, he's still positive & the authorities believe he caught it in the UK. That's a very long period of time to incubate & carry the virus.

I'm so worried about upcoming Mothers day here. People are hell bent on visiting their mothers. Ok I get the sentiment. But if they carry that virus to our elderly mothers it's not going to be pretty.

There's also a splintering of the otherwise fairly strong unity of message between the Feds & the States here. Some States are now going it alone so to speak but other's are keeping the restrictions in place. It's a bit of a head spinner when all of this happens & hard to keep up with. Especially if one is looking to travel interstate. :banghead:
 
Can't help wondering if we're jumping the gun.

A second wave of lockdowns would be even more devastating for the economy than sitting it out, just a few more weeks...

Yes. This.

I am finding it troubling living in a country that is not my own right now - I normally have the right to speak out when things are injust, but not when I am a guest here.

The government has eased all restrictions - the rich guys in control want their businesses to run. The poor workers are getting more covid cases because of the terrible conditions they live in, and boosting the economy is not going to help them in the short or long term. Racism is up ten-food (actually it’s always been bubbling under the surface but now it’s out and out in the open) where foreign workers are being blamed for the problems and illegal ones are being rounded up and prosecuted - even though they have always been used and abused before - their presence is relied on to keep the country going. Refugees used to be relatively safe in this neck of the woods, but attacks on them are occurring and they no longer seem to have any form of protection.

Here you would now think there was never a lockdown. I am losing the plot a bit getting really frustrated and angry watching everyone going out and starting to shop like there is nothing to fear.

If the virus is a big scary bear in the woods and lockdown is us hiding out in a log cabin to stay safe, well, hello, the bear is still out there :roflmao:
 
People are hell bent on visiting their mothers.
My nan's nursing home has eased restrictions so that you can schedule a 1 hour visit, and my mum is doing that on Sunday.

There's some procedures in place: you have to have evidence of having your flu shot, you get your temperature checked, you have to sign that you don't have covid and haven't been in contact with a known case (but isn't the whole point that most cases are going undetected??)...

She may also have to wear some PPE (which will be limited, because it's still in short supply), but will be visiting nan in her room.

This is available to one relative for every person in the home. And so far as I know, they aren't testing visitors beforehand for beforehand. So, there's no way of actually knowing whether someone will bring it in or not.

Here's the thing - depression in the elderly is a massive massive problem. It genuinely is. And too often goes undetected, or written off as something else (being old, having dementia, etc etc). The people in this home need visitors.

But given what's happened at Newmarch House, the catastrophic consequences of covid entering that nursing home, is that the way to go? Visiting in the resident's room? Really?

My nan is in a really bad way. And tbh, in her personal case? The value of getting to see her daughter in person definitely outweighs the risk. The numbers of known infections in our state are incredibly low.

But surely...perspex screens? Sitting across a large table so you can have you cup of coffee together, then the whole set up can be sanitised for the next guest (because you can't exactly sanitise my nan's room after my mum leaves). And you can't isolate my nan for a period of 14 days after her guest leaves because that would absolutely destroy what remains of her sanity (interacting with other residents is currently what's keeping them going).

But many of the residents aren't in the same state of health that my nan is in. Many of them have every reason to think they have several enjoyable years ahead of them.

But, how much do I trust the visitors of all these residents to be completely frank (answer: zero trust)? Or even have any awareness whatsoever if they're carrying the virus?

And yet, the gates to the dog park are still locked. The childrens play equipment is still off limits at public parks.

The restrictions being eased do seem to lack the medical evidence that was so heavily present in the way the restrictions were introduced.

If the easing of restrictions doesn't make logical sense, I think we'll lose a lot of the public cooperation we had when they were introduced. We could have put mothers day off for a few weeks this year - it's not like we haven't made (and survived) other massive compromises to beat this thing.
 
And yet, the gates to the dog park are still locked. The childrens play equipment is still off limits at public parks.

The restrictions being eased do seem to lack the medical evidence that was so heavily present in the way the restrictions were introduced.

If the easing of restrictions doesn't make logical sense, I think we'll lose a lot of the public cooperation we had when they were introduced.

This is the same situation in other countries, too. Retail in many European countries and also here in Hawaii is opening up, but dog parks remain closed. Playgrounds remain closed. The f*cking beach remains closed. And I can see the public support slipping, even turning into open opposition, day by day.
 
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