News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[blackemerald1]

Here you would now think there was never a lockdown.

^Which is where?

 

[osiris]

SE Asia @blackemerald1

 

[whiteraven]

^Which is where?

It's kind of like that in KY, too. At least among the people. The governor seems to be really on top of things.

 

[ms spock]

I am scared of Covid19 spreading as they are releasing restrictions without masks, specially trained cleaners in schools and on the streets (wearing hazmat like suits) like our Asian neighbours, or even without folks really understanding how infectious it really is.

If we waited until July we would have a 90% chance of elimination. I don't understand why we are wasting our advantage. I find that very upsetting.

World Health Organisation press briefings are not making it in to the Australian media that children need protection from the virus. The deaths of teachers and kids around the world are not penetrating Australia media or the inflammatory diseases that kids are dying from, some of them dying without pre-existing conditions. It's most distressing, many teachers are at risk.

China opened up some schools, with masks, specially trained cleaners and temperatures being taken and reclosed after two weeks due to transmissions. There are Covid19 outbreaks in two other Provences with lots of lock downs which the CCP are lying about and I want to stop watching China in Focus, but knowing what Chinese people think is a lie from the CCP feels important to know to know at least what the basics that are required to do to prevent infection.

Singapore closed down again as did Japan. So I think, given that Australia doesn't have a culture of mask wearing or specially trained cleaners trained by Pandemic Offices like Taiwan that we are not wise to be opening up.

That Korean Specialist in Ebola, Mers, SARS etc said you can get it again. He calls it reactivation. So there may be no immunity or a period of immunity for some people. He's for wearing masks. We got a couple of N95 masks in case we have to go to hospital.

I watched in Wales where the specialist infectious diseases doctor was saying all in their Covid19 ER are 50 and under, the youngest being in their early 20s.

The Chinese Whistle Blowers were saying that there are still cases in Wuhan (because there are still lock downs) and one woman talked about her Father being moved out of ICU at night so they could say that there was no one in the hospitals in Wuhan. I feel so sorry for those people. One of the Whistle Blower Doctors said whole families died of Covid19, so whilst China keeps lying officially about stuff the rest of the world has to guess. The Chinese people who were being Whistle Blowers kept referring to the fact the CCP was lying again about this and that and the other, so those poor people are still trying to work out what the lies they are being told.

Basically, it shows that while the US as a whole is declining, once the big cities are removed, the rate is actually climbing.

I am very worried about America. I am glad that this information is getting out there. It's sometimes hard to follow what is getting through in the media. There's WHO press briefings and some Science not getting through the Australian media.

I got exposed and I have been sick 4/5 times but not seriously, but I am doing quarantine in the house so I don't spread it, so I didn't get tested because it wouldn't change what I am doing and there was not a lot of testing available. Front line people getting it is more important. But now they are talking about long term effects like folks who have had it cannot join the military I am thinking that I will go and get tested but then I put it off. So I don't go anywhere or do anything because staying home and not getting anything or going somewhere and not transmitting is the main way of taking responsibility.

Even if I went somewhere I would wear masks and I will wear masks for the next couple of years so if I had it and it's gone at least I am not spreading it again if it came back.

I work with wildlife like bats so I am vaccinated for Lyssa Virus, but I don't want to go back to doing things until I know my status for sure and there are vulnerable people so I am mindful of that.

I watched a bit of 4Corners last night and over 100 Australian medical folks are infected, which is not a surprise when you look at the lack mask wearing, general lack PPEs, GPs not having gowns and anywhere like Hazmat suits that you can see in reporting around th world, we don't have a Pandemic Offices, not having hazmat suits that their cleaners are wearing when spraying their trains, well it made me worried about our medical people.

We fully expected for there to be a high death rate in Australia, then we came to terms that somehow we missed that I think Australians took action early, weeks before our Prime Minister announced a lock down 40% of Australian children had been removed from schools. So Australians have acted themselves. We shut down in February after I was exposed.

Lucky one of the Premiers shut down schools and is still not opening up schools which has given all parents (hopefully if they are not too stressed out of their minds) at least the idea that it might not be safe. Just until July and we have a 90% chance of elimination.

This week I turned it all off because I was out of my mind with fear.

90% of the world's students are in shut down so I don't understand why we are opening schools are opening up again.
https://en.unesco.org/covid19/educationresponse

I can't always read this thread and some people said some interesting things to me and I did not write back as I am too overwhelmed at times and I haven't been mentally unwell at times and from that person's point of view I could understand why you would say that.

I know that folks are in terrible situations financially and not being in a position to not go out. I can't do anything but do best practice and not spread whatever it is that I have, it's not much but it's at least doing the best that I can do.

Really feeling for everyone and sending my best wishes.

 

[mamachick]

This has been so overwhelming for many of us. Here in the US, there are more like 3 groups of thoughts now.

1)Those who fear it, are taking it serious, staying in as much as possible and wearing a mask when going out. Concerns with health over economy.

2) Those who think its like the flu, have no fear, and want to get back to work (often motivated by finances) None the less, feel their civil rights are violated. Some protesting with guns in hand. Concerned with effects on economy.

3) A growing number are in this group it seems, those with a conspiracy theory. Believing this was planned, calling it the plandemic. They believe that it is a way for us to allow government to track us, where we go, who are contacts are, and sharing of our medical records. I hear everything from minor theories to those who believe it is tied to an underground world of children being cloned and the filthy rich and celebrities participating in this. Some saying that acceptance of any vaccine found will cause the person to be implanted with tracking devices and even mind control. More information than I can even explain at this time.

I am over 60 and fear it. I wear a mask to get groceries and avoid public contact as much as possible. All along, I have believed that my beliefs are correct (between 1 and 2) and that we should be very cautious opening things back up. I value life over our economy if thats my only choice. I am cleansing groceries and disinfecting after opening mail among other things. Driving self a little crazy.

Opinions seem to be very politically divided. Republicans want things open. Democrats want to take precautions (though that is not meant for debate as it is not exact or totally true). In my state, the governor is Republican and wavering on side of caution.

It does make me start wondering what is really going on here. If the vaccine to come was to be a tracking device would I still want it?
Is there any truth at all to these conspiracy theories? How much are we being lied to by our government? Keep in mind, our president minimized this for weeks when he could have been taking better action.

What will be the effects of those isolated and depressed from this? How many are looking for answers and are jumping on the conspiracy wagon? Is there any truth to this? Why are children dying of inflammation condition and 90 yr olds surviving? Why dont we have enough PPE gear for our frontline workers?

This is a serious time and the truth seems to be hidden by politicians. Allegations are being made against medical experts. Its just too much to sort out. And on a personal note, my good sleeping habits have changed. Not feeling rested---ever. Light sleeping. Im sure this all must be a trigger for many, in one form or another.

 

[somerandomguy]

My county will be moving from the red phase to the yellow phase on Friday. My supervisor has informed me that I will be expected to return to work next Monday, even though the guidelines for the yellow phase continue to mandate telework.

I submitted a note from my allergist urging my workplace to give me accommodations by continuing to allow me to telework full time. I have asthma. I've informed HR and they seem content to take no action, but have offered to put me in touch with Employee and Labor Relations. If I can't continue to telework, I'll have to use that option.

For the first time, I feel like my job is at real risk.

 

[blackemerald1]

How many are looking for answers and are jumping on the conspiracy wagon?

^Everyone is looking for answers & because this is a novel corona virus nobody has many as yet. But with patience the scientists will unravel it's mystery.

Possibly, since it has the worlds attention the properties of this virus will be known sooner than we might otherwise expect. I hope so.

In the meantime I've stopped trying to do my own research. lol :rolleyes: I've disengaged in what I honestly believe is a lot of noise, in particular the conspiracy theorists. I feel sympathy for them because I can only think it is fear that is over-riding their common sense?

I've stopped having the news reeling on in the background because it was making me tense and I'm making efforts to have non covid19 conversations with people and appreciate what I do have, rather than what I don't have or what I might not have into the future.

I'm just not smart enough to contribute to the race to uncover all of the answers - or actually, now I think on it, any of the answers in respect to covid19. :banghead:

I'm better at doing other things so I'm going to continue to do what I'm good at.

I've got over feeling helpless in my own situation and very much, since I've already lost one relative to it, I'm concentrating on the family I have left. I may not be able to comfort them physically but I can ensure they have food, shelter & company albeit via technology & a little bit of lateral thinking here and there. :cautious:

For the first time, I feel like my job is at real risk.

^Hang in there SRG - hope you get to stay away from it all.

 

[Justmehere]

That Korean Specialist in Ebola, Mers, SARS etc said you can get it again. He calls it reactivation.

Reactivation is different than reinfection.

My county will be moving from the red phase to the yellow phase on Friday. My supervisor has informed me that I will be expected to return to work next Monday, even though the guidelines for the yellow phase continue to mandate telework.

Maybe there are options through the local public health dept if they are out of step with public health mandates? Tough position all the same. Blowing such a whistle could come with it's own problems.

 

[scout86]

Is there any truth at all to these conspiracy theories? H

Most of the time, there's enough "truth" in a successful conspiracy theory to make it sound plausible, at least superficially. But, I'd be surprised if there was any more truth than that in the more common ones I've heard.

How much are we being lied to by our government?

You know, weirdly, I think the current national government might be too utterly chaotic to pull off a good lie, long term. I think we're getting bad information, or information that's not really informed by science, we're certainly getting rapidly changing and sometimes conflicting information, but it takes a certain ability to stick to a coherent plan to manage a large scale lie. I'd almost feel better if I thought they could manage a lie. (Don't take that to mean I believe them, BTW.)

I think the best advice, at the moment, is something like "keep calm and carry on." Use common sense, be careful where you get your information, and realize this is kind of one of those "fog of war" type situations where things are fluid and a lot is unknown. Not fun, but not an unusual situation either. The longer this goes on, the harder it's going to be to manage the "keep calm" part. But, someday, this is all going to be over. It's not going to last forever, it will end, everything does.

 

[Friday]

If I can't continue to telework, I'll have to use that option.

Having asthma places you in the high risk category... who are “supposed” to be first out, last back. There’s probably a politically suave way to remind them of that.. and their liability to civil suits from the estates of their high risk employees who fall ill after being threatened with job loss if they don’t return early.

IDFK it it would work wih your company, but I usually end up with at least one coffee buddy from legal. Talking to one of their lawyers off the record about my concerns? (Hey... have you heard management is ordering their high risk employees back early? Isn’t that setting up the company for a major shitstorm?) Nearly always sets a lawyer on fire / handling the politically suave reminder to management. :sneaky: I looooove pissed off lawyers. They’re just so dang competent.

 

[siniang]

Talking to one of their lawyers off the record about my concerns? (Hey... have you heard management is ordering their high risk employees back early? Isn’t that setting up the company for a major shitstorm?) Nearly always sets a lawyer on fire / handling the politically suave reminder to management. :sneaky: I looooove pissed off lawyers. They’re just so dang competent.

Especially since this is a university setting. They most definitely don’t want any drama and even less drama that might become public :cool:

 

[whiteraven]

A neighboring state is making most people go back to work. No daycare. If you don't feel safe going back, you aren't eligible for any kind of assistance. And this in a state where the governor was actually more reasonable than most.