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Narcissistic families: sharing how you experienced your family

Movingforward10

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I grew up with a mother who I believe is narcissistic. Learning about the structure of the narissitic family has really helped me.

In my family, my Dad was her enabler. Everything he did was to protect her, rather than protect us. He knew of her lies but kept quiet. I don't think he realised the extent of her abusive behaviour because he never challenged her narrative.

My oldest sister was/is the golden child. To this day, (she is now in her mid 50s) she can not let go the notion that our mother is always always right and I and others so very horribly wrong. Even when I told her about me being sexually harmed as a child and how our parents failed to protect me: she tells me I am wrong and is unable to have any empathy at all for what I went through.

My middle sister was/is the scapegoat. She grew up thinking she was always wrong. Everything was her fault. Going missing aged 2 and 3: her fault. Breaking things she shouldn't have been given: her fault. Starting a fire (if this fire ever existed I don't actually know, it might be a fabrication or an over exageration) when she and I were left home alone when she was 3 and I was a baby: her fault. The lack of supervision was never mentioned, just always her fault.

And I was the lost child. The one who couldn't exist other than to fix the problems for everyone else. Everyone came to me from a very young age to keep the peace. And when I failed, it was my fault. I grew up alone. Any feelings I had, were laughed away, dismissed. Even when traumatic things happened. Any presents given to me I think were then broken, or taken, or were actually presents for others.
And then I was sexually harmed by people outside of the home .
I became excellent at not existing. And built a lot of self blame if I failed at that, by having a need and wanting it met.

My mother also consumed our bodies. She didn't do sexual acts but our bodies were/are hers to own. She did a number of odd things. I won't go in to all that in this post.

She changed reality to suit her whims. She happily lied if it meant it made her look better. She pitted us all against each other. And still does.
Sometimes she seems oblivious to the impact of her behaviour. Other times she seems to revel in the distress she causes. A very very confusing mix to work out whether she is or isn't intentional with her abuse.

I write all this because I am trying so hard to heal from it all.
And if you want to share how you experienced your narissitic family, maybe learning from each other will help understand and heal from that relational trauma , gaslighting, and all the other forms of abuse that come out of it.

Note:
people over use the word narissitic. This thread isn't a debate about that. Please start a different thread if you wish to have that discussion. This thread is about sharing experiences of growing up in a narissitic family, understanding the impact that has had on us and trying to heal from it.

Please also share any resources you have found helpful.
 
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You said it past tense but I feel like I’m living it still because all that stuff comes forward. So I lived through it again in my own family and we have the autistic girls with us so. Yes it’s still ongoing .
 
religious narcissists have a special place in hell if there is one.
Accepting that i was a scapegoat and not the things i was accused of being by my parents has been tough, the brainwashing they employed to try to convert me to their cult was pretty well conceived by their cult leaders and i was young and greiving the loss of my mother and seperation from her family. It worked.
my life has been altered ever since and there is no compensation other than knowing that their whole lives were spent in fear of the cults judgement of them and especially the judgement that they failed to bring their own children in. I guess I feel sorry for them and all narcissists, there is no satisfaction in a life that they feel is a failure because they dont ever reach the perfection they cant live happily without.
Religious narcissists walk among us, avoid them when you find them. If I could go back and correct things that i did to bring on my own disorder, it would be that. I would have done anything i needed to do to leave them as far behind as i could as soon as i could. I left home very early but i waited until i could legally work, age 14 in the US. I should have left sooner, it would have been hard and possibly traumatic, but the home of a religious narcissist is high level trauma for the family scapegoat.
 
I believe that narcissists use something called a double bind repeatedly. I am not certain if Ican post a video directly in here so I will suggest you look for Richard Grannon - and look for his video on Bateson's Double bind theory - or use this search string. - gregory bateson double bind theory richard grannon. I think once victims of narcissists understand the mental cages that narcissists try to put them into, the less likely the victim will stay a victim.
 
Accepting that i was a scapegoat and not the things i was accused of being by my parents has been tough, the brainwashing they employed to try to convert me to their cult
Yeah, I think the brain washing is so hard to overcome. Identifying it first off and then working out all the ways it impacts.
should have left sooner,
So hard to do. I suppose you left when you could? What 'should' of happened is that you should never have been abused and put in that position.
I believe that narcissists use something called a double bind repeatedly. I am not certain if Ican post a video directly in here so I will suggest you look for Richard Grannon - and look for his video on Bateson's Double bind theory - or use this search string. - gregory bateson double bind theory richard grannon. I think once victims of narcissists understand the mental cages that narcissists try to put them into, the less likely the victim will stay a victim.
Thanks, I am going to look that up as the double bins stuff feels very relevant right now.
 
(Ive been going in and out working on this for a few days now so it's going to be weird)

not sure what definition we're going for here if any in particular but my dad is a very egotistical person. I feel like I've grown up as an accessory to him and in some ways for him to try and fulfil things through me. if we did stuff together it was always according to his interest in it. I could never look after myself properly but when I'd visit / live with him he didn't do anything parental about it so I was ignored, if it wasn't being ignored he was scolding me and saying how the way I look reflects on him and his business. occasionally he bought me new clothes (that I didn't necessarily need) but with the same message that I was making him ashamed. If he was talking to me while I was eating or doing anything else I had to stop otherwise he'd get angry that I was ignoring him, for slights like looking away from him for a moment.
I grew up with his emotions being my emotions so when he was depressed I was also sad and anxious and it's always felt like my responsibility to regulate him, or my fault when he's upset. he'd tell me all his problems, including in raising my siblings and I felt like it was up to me to know what to tell him so they'd be treated fairly.

even as an infant, after he left, it was on me to be building our relationship. apparently he'd get upset and say I didn't love him or wasn't eager enough to see him. also always a silent enmity for my wether mine relationship with him was as good as my relationshp with her. and wether we felt like "a real family" or not. whcih was on me. I take failiure extremely badly. one of the barriers to me accepting/pursuing more support is that it feels like the end of the world to me for someone to see me/my things poorly maintained. I feel suffocated and like crying just typing it out. I cannot be mediocre and I get dysregulated easily around perceived failure or lack of knowledge. if I didn't have so many other pressing things that would be my number 1 thing to work on in therapy. I get so angry and upset inside.

he does not accept being wrong, and he likes to win "debates" with us that we didn't ask to be a part of. he used to comment on me never eating and then eat food that I had labelled as mine and blame it on me for putting it there.

he would yell at me and tell me off for being so unwell and blame me while also garnering sympathy from other people as he was ignoring me at home. hates boundaries, putting any with him never went well when I lived with him, or when I didn't. he hated me asking him to knock before coming in because it "makes us not feel like a real family". I remember him having a violent outburst and breaking something glass in the house for his (then) best friend looking inside a messy room to put something away. Ive found multiple letters of me apologising to him about how difficult and bad I was at home. in hindsight I don't really have anything to apologise for. he wanted me to be his kid without being my parent. I did all the laundry and dishes and stayed out of the way. I was genuinely difficult in some ways because I was caught up in ideologies that made me more prickly but I was a kid and he was my dad at the end of the day. I was suffering, I've apologised a lot for suffering and for being debilitated by it. he'd ask if I only lived with him because I didn't want to live with "those other people" (my mum and co.)

Im still learning to differentiate myself from him and not be terrified of him despite living so far away from eachother and not being in touch. the shame I attribute to him becomes my shame, I feel shame to the point of physical pain sometimes for the weird (uncomfortable, disrespectful and insecurity motivated) ways he's treated my mum that Ive learnt about. I feel sexually accountable for him. and also accountable for his parenting of my siblings. he's also been buddy with me and always wanted me to be his comrade, someone to drink with and tell his problems and sexual history to.
he's been very good at making me believe I am in the wrong without me realsing that is what he is doing. he has been overtly unkind to me a lot but most of our interactions where he has been crossing some kind of boundary or anything like that he has taken the position of someone kind and reasonable and I become the stubborn and unreasonable party who is inadvertently punishing him with my free will and differentiation from him and the family. I feel like I become the exile or trophy child depending on what is most convenient for him and who is around. and it is probably the same with the other kids. I feel a rift between me and his side of the family because of our relationship (or lack thereof), I miss them.
he's asked me for a lot of "advice" growing up but would punish me for saying things he didn't like, or absolve himself of responsibility and make me feel sorry for him.
he has often said he's on my side but I don't think that is true based on how he treats me and other people. my parents have their different acts. he acts like he cares but doesn't keep it up, mum acts like she cares but never really does the thing. I find it telling that he married someone who was wanting to have him back. I think he's very different from my mum in the sense that I don't think she can provide me what I need even if she does want to, there's a failure somewhere down the line. I think she does want to but there's something wrong so it never comes to fruition, our relationship is full of anticipation and unfulfilled "promises", and there's a bunch of things that are/could be contributing to that & I know she's always had a poor self worth which is probably why she ended up wit him.
I don't really think my dad wants to at all. I don't think he cares. the extent that he cares will be quite shallow or self centred or overshadowed by the amount he is willing to sacrifice for his personal gain. or the amount he is Not willing to put in for us to have a bond. but strangely when I was younger Ive told him a lot more that Ive told mum. but she has always done the care for me, infinitely more, even if that is not really very much.

I think being tricked into a friendship / buddy relationship with parents like this is how they can keep it all up, in the cases that they do it. cuz then it doesn't feel like abuse or neglect. feels like your fault. I felt so guilty and wrong for a very long time that I didn't like him, and was scared of him, and thought he was mistreating me, only to come full circle again and be helped to believe I was right in the first place. whoch is why therapy is hard. who to believe? parent who Ive always known and cannot be wrong, me with the lived experience, or T who was never there?
 
was scared of him, and thought he was mistreating me, only to come full circle again and be helped to believe I was right in the first place
This is helpful for me when I think about my mom’s relationship to her mom and dad. She believed her alcoholic dad was frightening and mistreating her mom for much of her life but then came full circle and saw her mom as baiting, manipulating, and emotionally abusing.

It makes sense when I look at it from that pulled back distance that my mom would have married someone with narcissistic tendencies—she had two flavors of it in her own parents.
 

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