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Relationship How Do We Know When Suffers Start Using Their Trauma As An Excuse To Avoid Blame?

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I believe my loved one is now to the point where accountability for their behavior is now possibly in their own hands, or at least how hard they try to overcome their negative coping behaviors. I know we can’t all win at some things and some have different approaches, but that shouldn’t mean that we don’t fight as hard as we can in our own way.

If I truly knew how hard she was trying or her intentions it would prolong my support, but if she is just using it to string me along, because I support her with everything making it an easy ride, I would walk away.

If any loved one experiences hardship, I believe we should support them, but there should come a time when they can support and help themselves.

How do we know when we become facilitators to sufferers and not compel them to even want to take the difficult road to recovery?
 
Wow, that is a tough one. I try to be encouraging without being enabling ~ but at times it can feel like a balancing act. I, by nature, want to help everyone always....but over the years I have learned that this wasn't beneficial to anyone because in time I would feel depleted and angry. I guess in your case you could "test the waters".....give her some slack on the rope and see how far she can go on her own with her recovery. Encourage her to work hard and support her when she needs it. Take a step back and get some perspective - sometime that helps. Good luck.

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I have been supportive and she told me it has been a 180 in her stress around me since I started going to therapy. Unfortunately that means it is her way only in the relationship and when I take care of our child anyway and burn it at both ends already it is quite one sided and no longer feels like a relationship.

We had a joint therapy session today and I have an idea of what we have been miscommunicating, especially when I feel she is more sensitive with communicating with a spouse. (She learned to avoid conflict at any level and her opinion did not count with her first abusive husband. Speaking her mind and being heard equaled violence.)

I will try and empower her so she can be heard. I have a strong personality and that makes her relive her past, though she is reluctant to validate my opinion.

We both deserve to be heard and everyday I learn a bit more. Without effective communication I believe we would have continued distancing ourselves from the relationship and subsequent understanding where we stand and what we need.

I appreciate everyone's perspective, the more information I have the better. Now I need my wife to feel confident enough to tell me and I need to help empower her, so she knows that I care about her feelings too.
 
JohnJohn you are taking care of her, take care of yourself also.
I wish it were easier, and hope it improves quickly.
 
Sometimes johnjohn, having someone trying to 'help' can take away the others power to heal. Its disempowering to be helped.

So sometimes to truly help somebody means stepping back and letting go of your imput into the situation. Ofcourse you are still in control of how it effects you, and if it means that you can't stay in the relationship, then that is sometimes better that a relationship where both are under such pressure from the other person.
 
Oh John, If I knew the answer to this one I would market it and make my million.

Joking aside, this has been a big issue for me with my husband. I have to take it issue by issue and choose my battles carefully, trying to "let go" of the little stuff and stand my ground on the big stuff - have the sit down "this is important" conversations when it matters most. And we have been going at this for 12 years.

You both have to want to work at this together to get through the :poop: that PTSD leaves in it's wake. It changes both of you and you will both have to accomodate certain aspects of those changes, in yourself and the other.

A lot of stifled rage has flowed under the bridge in my home, and just occasionally it floods. But then we are human and at the end of the day, very much in love.

Best of luck, and keep off the gin. x
 
I have been supportive and she told me it has been a 180 in her stress around me since I started going to therapy. Unfortunately that means it is her way only in the relationship and when I take care of our child anyway and burn it at both ends already it is quite one sided and no longer feels like a relationship.

This is concerning. If you are carrying the whole load sooner or later you will burn out. Can you separate for a time so she can work things out?
 
I will try and empower her so she can be heard. I have a strong personality and that makes her relive her past, though she is reluctant to validate my opinion.

Oh JohnJohn,

You can't empower her. She has to empower her self. She has to choose to heal (and god it is hard to heal even if you are 100% committed, but if you aren't really trying then I don't see how progress can be made.

You can't keep looking after her in this type of parent mode because it is not good for you or her. (Only my opinion and may not be helpful at all.)

You are allowed to be yourself and have your own personality. If she has a problem with this then she needs to take responsibility work on that. She needs to go to therapy to sort out her issues. She also needs to take responsibility for the situations she chooses to put her self in.

If you do all the work for her and moderate even the person and personality you are when you are around her, then why would she change? She can just say PTSD and you bend over backwards, do a few somersaults and look after your child to boot.

Whilst you are so mega focused on your partner you have to consider how much is your child missing out by having one parent emotionally absent because of "PTSD" and one parent emotionally absent because they are care taking and rescuing the other parent. Even if you can't set boundaries for your self you do need to consider and set them for your child.

She needs to take responsibility for her own life.. Why did she choose you as a partner? Was it because you have a need to rescue other people? Or did she see someone who is so kind that they would look after her? My sense, from what you have written, is that you are being taken advantage of as you are so willing to take up her load and she allows that to happen or she makes it happen by floundering as she knows you will pick up the slack.

If you always do things for a child, they never learn. Dealing with difficulties is part of the deal of being alive. It is part of being an adult.

We both deserve to be heard and everyday I learn a bit more. Without effective communication I believe we would have continued distancing ourselves from the relationship and subsequent understanding where we stand and what we need.

It has to be a two sided thing though JohnJohn. No matter how much work you do and how hard you try, if she isn't committed to her own healing process it is not going to work out that well.


I appreciate everyone's perspective, the more information I have the better. Now I need my wife to feel confident enough to tell me and I need to help empower her, so she knows that I care about her feelings too.

I think you are demonstrating over and over to your wife that you care about her feelings. I think focussing on your feelings and how this all is effecting you would be the best bet for you to see the situation a bit more clearly.

I know when I have been enmeshed with people I lose all perspective.

This may or may not be helpful. I hope you stick to therapy and start to stand up for yourself a bit. I would also consider how this is all affecting your child. Do you want to teach your child to behave in a helpless manner so they seek out a partner who can rescue them repeatedly later in life?

Having you time each week and some hobbies or activities that are fun and not based around caretaking your wife would be important in my mind. If your wife sabotages these activities by having crisises at those times then I think you have your answer of how you can tell if someone is using their PTSD as an excuse not to take responsibility for their own lives.

Having you time with your child each day - doing something as simple as going for an half an hour walk - would mean that your child starts to get some more parenting and is not as over looked in the drama of PTSD.

Then doing activities together as a family and not focusing on what your wife can't do but doing things that she can do would be a good activity to schedule in regularly. The rule for these occasions can be no heavy duty talk about trauma and focusing on letting your child be the centre of attention some of the time.

If your wife has dramas that means she can't participate and/or support for you having your life and your child being paid attention to and having quality parent and child time, then it is time to talk turkey and make some decisions on how you are going to set strong boundaries around this.

Good luck,
 
Thank you for your input and perspective. Live long and prosper (sorry could resist).
Ms Spock,

My wife did move out and it feels as though she is drifting away from our relationship. I feel you may have a point with her initially choosing a relationship with me for my "savior" qualities. My therapist called my nature a "hero" type, always trying to save the day.

She is now directing all the blame of our problems on me, bringing up past issues (years old). I feel she is so angry because she is not in control of her thoughts. Isolating herself from me attempts to silence the negative emotions she has fixated on and has learned from her past abuse.

I deserve to live as much as she does and my ability to love and trust her errodes each day. Every relationship has problems, its how we work on relationships together that decides the strength and outcome of that bond. I believe in family first, unfortunately when issues appear in some peoples lives they can disfunctionally withdraw from things in order to focus on their survival alone.

I have my faults and plan to go to therapy not only for my wife, but myself during these tough times. I know at some point my daughter and I must leave the family we had and perhaps start over. I know my wife loves our daughter, now I just wait to see what else she loves.

Thank you for your perspective and thoughts. Live long and prosper (sorry Ms Spock I couldn't resist).
 
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