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Lonelyone

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I met a really nice guy and we dated for a few months last year. I ended the relationship as it was getting more intimate because well...I seem to get scared of getting close to anyone and just want to run away. My huge fears seem to be around intimacy (emotional and especially physical...I am terrified of the physical aspect). We recently reconnected and I am afraid I will repeat the same process of running away.

I realize that second chances don't come often and I find myself enjoying his company (mainly our chats). My question is how does someone with PTSD and a huge fear intimacy have a relationship with a healthy person? I don't want to loose him again yet I am terrified of getting too close...help :(
 
I have don't have a problem with intimacy in my current relationship. It is hard having PTSD in a relationship. My boyfriend (BF) is dealing with my PTSD and not having a clue as to what to do for it. I have a fear of losing people in my life including friends, family and etc. If you enjoy his company see where it goes. I know the fear if intimacy is scary but have you talked him about it at all? The one thing I have learned is to be open with him. I was scared at first to let him know I even had PTSD and fear that he would have said no it didn't bother him. Just be open with him.
 
Hi Lonelyone

I do sometimes too. I have had to push any inner conflicting voices in my head away and ask myself if it feels good and right instead. I have to also like myself enough to allow myself to accept nice feelings.

However, what I was really scared of before was not intimacy itself, it was the vulnerability, the fear of rejection and abandonment and hurt. To combat this I used to run away before they got the chance. But this was just a self fulfilling prophecy.

I have to tell myself that they are here on my choice, doing what I feel is right and because I like it and want it. Any other thoughts of rejection and abandonment had to be looked at rationally and put into context. Because I have learnt to like myself and know I am worth something I can now take more control.

I am not in a place that fear them leaving because of my low opinion of myself. I am in a position to accept what I want and know that if it does not work out, it is because of their own issues and nothing to do with me. I am not to blame myself any more for those who choose to walk away. I cannot blame myself any more for them taking advantage because it is on my terms and I cannot blame myself for them not liking me any more because I know I like myself, if they do not that is their problem not mine.

I hope you can take some control back and learn that being intimate is not based on fear of what might happen in the future but based on how it makes you feel in the present. As long as you feel it is the right thing to do and it feels good then anything else may be irrational thoughts.

Best wishes
Saffy :)
 
Do you want to have that kind of relationship with him, Lonelyone? You're not really saying and there are other kinds of relationships you could have with him either until your feelings change, until you're ready, or just because you choose to. Friendship is good.
 
KimmerM, we haven't really been dating long (a few months) so I am afraid of telling him I am damaged goods with PTSD. His mother is a therapist also and I don't want to scare him off as he may know what PTSD really is.

Saffy, I wish I had your drive to push past the negative thoughts and think positive. At the moment however, I hate myself and I don't know how to get past it...my negative voice is too strong.

For me, I am terrified of being touched even though there was no sexual (physical) abuse that I can remember. There was sexual (non-physical) abuse but that's as much as I can remember. I fear that I will be rejected or discarded if I decide to be intimate but getting over the physical aspect is most terrifying (rating it a 10).

Prime-no, I would like to have a relationship that transcends friendship but I don't know if I'll ever be ready. I know he doesn't want just friendship so I am not sure what to do.
 
Saffy, I wish I had your drive to push past the negative thoughts and think positive. At the moment however, I hate myself and I don't know how to get past it...my negative voice is too strong.

Hi Lonelyone

I understand that believe me. I am 46 now and felt like you do for years and years sabotaging all my relationships for fear I was not good enough and that I would be discarded like an old bike.

My self loathing just would not let me believe that I could choose when and who I was with and felt I just had to be grateful for what I got. Of course what I got was people who took advantage and could not take my issues and so left anyway.

My lack of confidence told me that I had no right to be in control or to look after my own needs as I thought I was not important enough.

All these things I was telling myself just made me hate myself more and I could only focus on this negativity instead of being aware of what was going on around me.

Learning that it is good to EXPECT to be treated well, to be considered, to be cared for and to be in control of my own body, feelings and emotions has given me guidance.

I had to learn what I liked and did not like, not what someone else told me.

I had to learn to ask for things and say no, rather than hoping for the best.

I had to learn to listen to doubts and instincts and learn to act on my decisions based on them, rather than letting things get out of control then being too scared to say anything.

I had to learn that other people may behave in a way that I do not like sometimes but I am not to blame for their behaviour. I can control their attitude towards me if I set boundaries and expect to be treated well, rather that letting them ride rough shot because I was scared of them leaving. Hang on if they treat me bad I want them to leave, don't I? Don't you? :)


I have really had to focus on my inner dialogue and tell myself that what I am thinking is part of my problem. So to help the problem I have to look realistically about what I am thinking. :)

I read a book called practising the power of now by eckhart tolle and this really helped clear the inner dialogue and get me to listen to a quiet head, no noise, no self abuse, no doubts, no anxiety. Just for those few moment, at first, I realised that at that moment I was ok, I survived. I was free of torment and free of self loathing. At first it only last a short time but you have to build on it and really embrace the inner stillness.

I built up on this so that I could empty my head and replace what I was thinking with more positive thoughts. It took time.'

I had to start looking at myself in a different light. Be honest with myself. What is actually wrong with me? I am not perfect, nobody is, I might have wobbly bits, everyone does, I hate my looks, well everyone has found something about their bodies or faces they hate. Even top models bitch about something they hate about themselves.

Self loathing is such a negative thing to carry around. I still do sometimes but it is getting better.

The one thing I can really tell you is that once you learn to control your own inner dialogue and thoughts it gets a lot easier to focus on what feels good and stay grounded.

Finding someone you trust and that you feel safe with is a huge importance though. Knowing that you have the power to take control and stop and start when you want also makes you feel safer. Knowing you have every right to change your mind at any time makes you feel safer and also sets out the boundaries with your partner. He should respect that. If you doubt he does then you are not ready to be intimate.

I also spent time in learning about how to set boundaries and communicate better through being assertive and not my usual passive aggressive ways.

This might help you a bit :)

[DLMURL]http://www.skillsyouneed.co.uk/IPS/Assertiveness.html[/DLMURL] and [DLMURL]http://www.skillsyouneed.co.uk/IPS/Interpersonal_Communication.html[/DLMURL]


I have found someone now I feel safe with and we take it slow enough to start of with just touching hands.

It is important to know that it is all on your time, FULL STOP. No one can make you ready. When you feel safe you will know. (I never realised how real that statement was until now)

I still have pangs of anxiety in regards to being rejected and abandoned but I am starting to focus less on that and focus more on what is happening in the present moment so that I can stay in control.

It will come to you lonelyone I promise and when it does you will feel safe, free and happy.

Best wishes
Saffy :)
 
But you aren't damaged good though. I have felt and still feel that way. I know that my boyfriend will get upset with me. But one thing we have in our relationship is trust and we are open with each other. If we are upset with something we say what it is. I hope he and I stay together is a blessing.
 
But you aren't damaged good though.

Hi KimmerM

I think we all feel damaged and sometimes it feels that there is no self worth.

Personal growth can allow you to adapt and be able to cope with these feelings a lot better. You certainly do have the power to change the way you think about yourself.

It takes time and a lot of positive thoughts and insights. But I have to believe that there is always hope and possibility of personal change and growth.

best wishes
Saffy :)
 
We all fear rejection, PTSD or not. My sufferer told me early on about it, and I am glad he was honest about it from square one. This stuff gets swept under the rug far too often, making it the eternal skeleton in the closet. For what? Shame? Fear? Of something you have no control over, but does not define your worthiness as a person?

I would tell him. If he does reject you because of it, it will hurt like hell. But really, do you want to be with someone, anyone, so badly that openness between you is thrown to the curb side? I don't have PTSD, I am well into middle age, and I still fear being rejected by anyone, including my PTSD guy, lol. That is common to us all, I think, in the game of love and life.

Be kind to yourself. Love yourself. Find the help you need to accomplish these things. Sometimes you can't do it on your own, and that is okay too. Like diabetics need their insulin, you may need therapy to help you manage. The payoff for you could be big. Not necessarily in a relationship with someone else (although that is a bonus), but in a better relationship with yourself.

And. Take. Your. Time. We don't need to jump in the sack to prove our love for someone, nor to prove that we are loveable. Your guy might surprise you with more understanding than than you give him credit for. And if he doesn't, then he isn't the right one for you. Good luck, wishing you all things good and positive.
 
I agree there I have gotten the help and it has helped. As for my relationship I know that I have my bad days but my boyfriend is a godsend. We had a disagreement last week and I misread into what he said and we had a spat but quickly it was resolved. And we laughed about it the next day when I saw him. He and I are open and he is wants to be with me. Yesterday I was with him and we just had a late lunch after work and relaxed watching TV just enjoying time together. He and I are great although I will admit that he will leave because of the PTSD I know that fear is strong and I fear things are wrong. But he always lets me know that nothing is wrong with us and that we are fine. I am happy that I have him. I had gone on dates prior to being with him with other guys and I would get let down. I would get to a point they would want to know more and open up to me and I would do the same. I know that the reason why I have PTSD is a touchy subject to most people but it isn't to me. My boyfriend doesn't know how to take it but to feel sorry and wish that he could relate but I don't want him nor anyone else. But he is there nonetheless.
 
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