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Abstract, I agree with you. I'm trying to be sure to keep saying things as civil as possible, and also state things like I'm not trying to attack or come at Keith, but like you have said, I'm definitely feeling a very strong response to this thread. So much so, that more than once I have thought I should just stop posting to it, but then seen a new post and it just ignites that flame again.
So again I will say, I'm not trying to say that everything Keith believes in is bad, or that "he" himself is a bad person. I am however getting frustrated with the fact that several people have tried to point out that his use of words is in several ways offensive and very inconsistent with the commonly accepted meanings. Instead of re-wording for anyone, or even trying to explain why he uses the words he does, he just continues posting the same things using the same words, which is either a complete lack of understanding about the matter and problems people are having with his view, regardless of the fact that several have pointed this out for him. Or its that he'd like to deliberately keep saying the same thing in order to elicit more of the same conflict and emotion from others.
I really probably will have to stop posting to and following this thread soon because I don't think there is much more for me to say, especially not nicely, that I haven't already said. I just hope that others stay safe and really research this type of information before they jump into Keith's group he's trying to create. It may be a perfectly good way to help others, but deep down, my instincts (which never work by the way) are screaming at me about this right now. So I would just take that and realize the kind of statement you would be making by agreeing with some of the thinking that has been presented by Keith in this thread.
From what I can see, Keith's theory, and this would be anyone's theory if they agree, is that anyone who feels any strong negative emotion towards anything has been traumatized. You're in a large group of people and feeling overwhelmed = trauma, you're upset by the kids working in a foreign country to make your shoes =trauma, you like to speed/race for the adrenaline rush =trauma. Number two, that any and all of the trauma can and does cause PTSD. Just think about the implications of this...everyone would have PTSD. The thing you've been suffering with for years, working so hard to overcome, would basically become arbitrary because everyone has it. The people who tell you, "just get over it" would essentially become correct about the fact that "you're being too sensitive, and you should just get over it." Number 3 - that anyone who has ever gone back to an abuser or put themself into an abusive situation after the first abuse is by default addicted to this abuse and therefore asking for it, or in his words "attracting it". If you were raped more than once, and/or by more than one abuser essentially you were asking to be raped. If your parent(s) abused you your whole life, you asked for that too.
After being abused by my father for 12 years, I started running away and I ran to another guy who was much older and forced himself on me on my 13th birthday. I continued to be abused by my father continuously until I moved out at 18, and by the other guy continuously for 2 years, and both of them have abused me and still try to contact me since I left. I also slept with more guys than I know after that 2 years of being forced by the first guy, and before I moved out. Probably 90% of these guys were also too old, and therefore also committed crimes when they were with me. I do not call these guys my abusers, because I fail to see it like this as I put myself in those situations, but at the same time I try to remember that those guys also took advantage of a pretty messed up kid who was much too young for them. I would say based on Keith's theory I highly qualify as an "addict to trauma", basically meaning that I wanted to be abused ALL of these times, except for the first time my dad hurt me that I was so young I don't even know when it was. Although I have blamed myself for all of the abuse I've listed, and continue to do so despite being told this is unhealthy and that it is not my fault....I in NO way agree that I was asking for it. I did not go looking for it, I don't even remember how exactly I found all of those guys that took advantage of me. I know I was hungry, cold, and had no where else to go and somehow found myself in these situations whenever even the possibility of having food and/or shelter came up.
Please correct me Keith if I have misunderstood, but this is what I'm getting from all you have said.
