Is There Really No Way Out?

[Deleted member 25907]

Solara, I must admit laughing at the idea of posting a message in a forum where pretty much everyone automatically distrusts anything that anyone may say. Yet I took the time to post anyway, perhaps remembering how impossible things had once seemed. I extended my hand, yet didn't expect much more than a slap in the face. At this point all I can do is thank you for the slap. You know, every once in while you just feel the responsibility to at least try. If everyone quits trying, do any of us really stand a chance?

There are no secrets, just some things we may not yet understand. I clearly stated, in bold, that learning how the human mind works took care of it for me. You can choose to automatically assume that I'm lying or have some sort of evil underlying agenda and continue as you have been (how is that working out?). You could ask how/why it resolved my issues. You can start paying attention to the source of mental activity in your own mind, which can at least give you something to do when you're bored. Or you could ask for more information, which should be properly perused as a new topic, not in this thread. You can make a conscious decision of which you prefer, while remaining aware that choosing not to choose is still making a decision.

 

[digger]

@Todd Robinson - the original poster asked if there was really no way out, if you found one for you why not just share on this thread what it was instead of being deliberately vague about it? Or if you think it deserves its own thread, why not start one? Why be so cagey about openly sharing it?

Solara, I must admit laughing at the idea of posting a message in a forum where pretty much everyone automatically distrusts anything that anyone may say.

That's a pretty sweeping statement? What are you basing this assumption on?

 

[Deleted member 25907]

Sorry for any misunderstanding? I didn't mean to be vague or misleading in any way. learning how the human mind works was/is my answer/reply to the original question. I'm not sure why that's not absolutely 100% perfectly clear? I'm also mystified as to what's wrong with a “first post”...I'd expect there has to be a first?

I would have considered just posting the six bold words above without a some background info, and an offer to help wholly inappropriate, and somewhat cruel.

Normally if I'm suspicious of someone in a forum, or I just want to know more about them, I just google them along with the forum content and see what comes up. In this instance I even used my real name. So you could just <content removed as self promotional>

Just let me know if this is a topic anyone would like to persue.

Take care,
Todd

 

[Kas_Can_Fly]

So you could just google “ptsd todd robinson”.

It is against forum rules to self-promote, as you are not just passing on a blog but your own method of meditative treatment, you are walking a very fine line of the rules.

 

[joshua_]

If you have a one trauma single incident form of PTSD, your healing is likely to be shorter. I mean if it's from something like an accident. If it's from war, prolonged abuse, or happened during childhood, then healing takes a bit longer and is more about management of symptoms over the long run.

What about a one-time trauma of a torturous murder from a stranger done to a stranger? Do you think I can completely recover from that?

 

[digger]

It wasn't clear that that was your complete answer because you finished both your posts asking people to ask you for more information. I was confused as to why you didn't just give the information in your post. Still am to be honest. I don't intend to Google you. If you have something to share with this forum, then why not just share it here on this forum instead of try to redirect people elsewhere?

I'm also mystified as to what's wrong with a “first post”...I'd expect there has to be a first?

I don't understand this, sorry.

I would have considered just posting the six bold words above without a some background info, and an offer to help wholly inappropriate, and somewhat cruel.

Or this bit. My point was if you have something that would have been useful for the poster and other readers of the thread to hear about, then why not share it. 'Learning how the human mind works' is pretty ambiguous.

 

[Kas_Can_Fly]

@joshua_ I think it is possible to recover to a point of being healed - much like a physical injury. You will heal over eventually, but there will be a scar and that scar is more vulnerable to future harm. This is exactly the case with PTSD traumas, you can heal, but it's slow and often times difficult, when you do heal for the most part you will be able to lead a normal life, but you may find that some stresses will cause you more trouble than they should. This might be a direct trigger - such as someone (for example) jumping out at you at halloween with a rubber knife or the general stresses (both good and bad) of daily life such as work, interacting with friends and family chores etc. On those times you might need to take longer to bounce back or need extra sleep, but yes, in time and with the correct treatment it is possible to make PTSD a manageable part of life. It will always be there, but it when processed, it won't control your life.

 

[Nicolette]

In this instance I even used my real name. So you could just....

Banned for using the forum to promote his own agenda. Hopefully now we can get back on topic.

 

[Hashi]

What about a one-time trauma of a torturous murder from a stranger done to a stranger? ... can completely recover from that?

I know you were responding to something the thankfully banned Todd Robinson said, bur is it OK to answer this from my own perspective?

I'm not sure if you're referring to your own murder or someone else's. I've been "murdered" tortuously by strangers (I died and came back) and I've also witnessed someone else (a stranger to me) being murdered tortuously who didn't come back. Your experience will be different from mine because our experiences are all different, but since you've specified this in the context of whether it's possible to recover I would like to answer your question that in my view it's possible to heal. I'm doing that. With time and work and the right kinds of therapy for me (rather than snake oil).

I don't believe at all that PTSD is a life sentence, or even that it will need to be managed for life.

I've got to say that hypnosis, stellate ganglion block and marijuana are not on my list of what helps me to heal. I think it's about being supported in a deep personal journey and not about treatments that can override experiences of trauma and its effects.

 

[joshua_]

I'm not sure if you're referring to your own murder or someone else's.

Thanks. No, I did not do any murdering. I only witnessed it. It was a one-time event trauma and it didn't happen in childhood so does that mean I have a good chance?

 

[Hashi]

I meant if you were the intended target or if you witnessed it.

I don't think it's about having a good chance based on some sort of scale you assess the trauma on compared to other traumas. I have multiple traumas starting in childhood, and that might affect the meaning that my trauma has for me personally but it's irrelevant to my belief in healing.

If you're hoping for a treatment that will fix it for you, and hoping that you might be in some way a likelier candidate for success, then I can't help you with that.

If you'd like to explore other ideas about recovery, I'd suggest reading "Waking the Tiger" by Peter Levine. It explains about our innate healing ability, however horrific our experiences.

 

[JarHed]

Hey Joshua

There really isn't an easy way to quantify the answer to your last question. For instance; lets say that a dozen people witnessed someone being murdered. Some may react in a similar way and other very differently. Some may need some help through therapy and and others not. Some may require a long time in therapy and others less. It's a very individual thing is what I'm getting at.

I'd suggest not worrying whether you'll be 'cured' someday but at the present time concentrate on some form of therapy to help your situation. One thing I will say it that time is a factor, the longer the distance from the traumatic event, how you feel about it may change. We're all individuals and how we react is dependent on a list of factors.

I hope the person with the 'miracle cure' didn't get you off track. There will always be people like that at forums like this. Some may even have good intentions. Just stay the course, it's a tough one but people here are very helpful and supportive. I too have been helped by coming here.

JarHed