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Spiritual Abuse From Toxic Christianity.

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Gizmo, I am so very sorry that you had to endure spiritual abuse!!! I had a self-professed Satanist sexually, psychologically, and spiritually abuse me.

He made me deny God and I was raised to believe that this was an unforgivable sin. I won't go into details of the abuse because it was so horrible but suffice it to say that it has taken me almost 5 decades to fully recover from it. I do understand how Christianity, or any religion for that matter, can be used to harm and manipulate a person.

My sister was excommunicated from a church because she had some Native American beliefs and also made and sold dream catchers. It is a shame that something as beautiful and pure as a relationship with the Creator can become so twisted by cruel, misinformed, judgmental, and unscrupulous people.

Thank you for sharing, it gave me the courage to share my own experience.
 
Thank you Snowwhite. One of them is coming over today to visit his daughter and he wants to talk to me. So far I am cool, calm and collected. I had a dream last night where in a overwhelming situation was going on, I had lots of help and support so I know I will be ok. I will trust my gut instincts and trust in just listening and not getting too involved.

This really shook me up bad when I learned about his coming over. I have to be really careful and I will not get too involved. Probably why I posted this thread.
 
Gizmo, your post pretty much describes a situation I was in, except my mother was the one abused by Christians at her most vulnerable and I was the gothic daughter.

I also saw my first love emotionally destroyed and ultimately formed in the image of the abusers by a very f-ed up group of Christians. Somehow this hurt more than what they did to my mother, because she was at least an adult who had the right to leave, which she eventually woke up and made use of. They hurt her, but they didn't destroy her like they did him. She recovered and moved on with her emotional and spiritual growth. He gave in and decided it was easier to hate than to disobey. It was absolutely awful to see as they beat all the actual spirit out of him. I think I was one of the very last things he gave up in order to become the broken, twisted thing they wanted him to be.

He had to give me up because I was unbreakable when it came to indoctrination, even though I was only a child when they started trying. I'd already decided there was no such thing as an omnipotent, loving god, and nothing could shake me from that conviction. It's actually one of the few things I'm really proud of in my life--that I always stood up for what I knew was right (and wrong, lol), even when they were promising I could fit in if I just went along, and even when they were threatening me. Sadly, that didn't spare the people around me their abuse and manipulation.

To say I left that situation with a lot of anger at Christianity would be an understatement. I also, with all the logic of a 13yo, figured that if I was going to be accused of worshiping demons and corrupting the youth of the world with sex, drugs, and rock and roll that I ought to at least have the fun of actually doing it. I embraced doing every single thing they'd said was bad with great enthusiasm, and to this day think of myself as the "bad girl". I guess it became part of my identity somewhere along the way.

I did eventually realize that becoming what they hated was still giving them power and that the truest revenge would be to ignore them entirely and just do whatever felt right to me. I've lived that way for a lot of years now, and deal with proselytizing fundamentalists with all the energy they deserve. No debate, no striking fear into their hearts by invoking the names of demons (though that is terribly entertaining), I just say "you are nothing" and walk away. Because that's what Christianity has become to me--nothing. A non-entity unworthy of even discussing, a bug to be swatted at when it gets too close and otherwise ignored. The only reason I'm talking about it now is because I'm trying to sort through all the terrible things I've seen, and Spiritual Abuse was definitely one of them.

I do realize that this is why I avoid my fiance's family at all costs, though. We've been together the better part of a year and they have never heard my voice. I'll reluctantly text them if I have to, but otherwise avoid them completely. Because, while my fiance is as unrepentantly Pagan as I am, his family are very Christian. I know on the deeply emotional and irrational level of past trauma that they'll hate me and try to take him away, just like they did 15 years ago. No reassurance from him or even them will shake me from this. Deep inside I'm always snarling "you just TRY that shaming Christian sh*t again. I'm not 12 and helpless anymore."

Judging by the length of this post and the fact I'm shaking, I was a little more traumatized by witnessing all that Spiritual Abuse than I thought...
 
Thank you Lion. I was excommunicated from Scientology for speaking the truth as well. I remember leaving and yelling that Scientology sucks. I never looked back.

My parents also were dabblers in Satanic Ritual Abuse so I can really empathize with what you are saying. But I am not ready to touch that one with a ten foot pole.

I am so sorry about your sister.

Being naïve, gullible, vulnerable and desperate for help and support got me into a lot of fixes. I am glad I escaped.
 
Caterpiller that was so moving. I am proud of you for having the fortitude of standing up and alone. You are so right on the mark. It does a lot of deep damage and I am very sad you have to deal with his parents. Geez, They are what I call legalists because they preach but do not do. I am sorry that this touched a nerve with you. it is so common I am surprised there is not more written about it.

Snowwhite, my daughter and my granddaughters will be here. I can always just go in my room and shut the door. I have my escape plan all set up just in case. Thanks for caring.
 
I just started reading a book by Frans De Waal called The Bonobo and the Atheist. De Waal studies chimpanzees and bonobos and his thesis here is that you can see a from of morality in other primate species and it predates religion by perhaps millions of years.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
 
How awful Gizmo. They were the ones possessed by demons or the devil.

I love how you yelled Scientology sucks and walked out.

I didn't get pulled in myself when I was young though the Children of God were always trying to recruit because the demon run had a hold of me! But I remember reading Eric Hoeffer's The True Believer in my late 20's and thinking I would have been ripe pickings if not for my teenage love of alcohol. That was number one.

So glad you are free of all that but geez - how awful to have been so ostracized. I have been, but in different ways.
 
Willykat I am thankful for what you shared. When I lived in the mountains I had six cats. They formed their own community and in the winter would all sleep on top of each other to keep warm. The older cats showed the kittens the rules and they all got along. It taught me about true community. They were so healing to watch. I believe you.[DOUBLEPOST=1400797337,1400797087][/DOUBLEPOST]franciemarnie, thank you so much. When I was a teenager I was into a lot of drugs and alcohol but after marriage I quit my party days. I was a victim and desperately looking for a real community.

I have that now in my family and the good people on this forum. I really believe that although it may take many years good comes out of the bad. I am sorry you were shunned. That is a terrible experience. My heart goes out to you.
 
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