Baby Boomers Got A Rough Deal - No Doubt

[missbliss]

Hi,
I think it came in b4 the 50's.
I asked my mother about my first couple of years, and part of her reply was that her mother had been told in the mid 1930s that "babies stomachs need a rest" which by the time I was born in the 60s had become the state employed "health visitor" and others spouting crap like "babies need routines".

It's amazing how it's always we were *told* - they were *advised* - who were *they* - what was *their* agenda in *telling* mothers not to breastfeed their children, to let them cry it out, to be drugged if they cried too much because they wanted to be held and to be fed *formulas*? And yes, all sensory deprivation no matter what degree, can and if prolonged and frequent enough WILL set down the foundation for trauma after trauma after trauma.

I will not enter discussion regarding circumcision as it has been discussed too many times with too much volitility. I just want to know why children are being enslaved by adults in the sex trade, made into servants in 3rd world countries and into virtual battering bags for their caretakers who use them to unleash their rage and when do we as survivors say enough of all this, let us begin the re-educaiton of the masses on how it is done so that a child may grow up to become a happy, balanced and secure human being.

 

[missbliss]

That depends on who "we" is. You're right, we've always been able to think for ourselves and make good choices, if we decide to. I don't think nearly enough people have ever done that to make it count. I hope that's going to change and that it will change in time to do some good.

*We* are the people who *they* wrote the books on child rearing for and *they* then set about creating *programs* to educate the masses - via pamphlets - the medical industry etc - on how to *rear* a child. *We* (I and others) are the ones who had the double-whammy of being brought up during that time with parents who had gone through their own traumas, due to generational trauma, wars, psychic influences - who didn't possess the internal reservoirs of compassion or the foundations of knowledge of what it actually does take to lovingly without egotistical agendas to raise a child, but instead - due to whatever was going on during that time and through whatever media was putting out - inflicted sadistic techniques only now being revealed as having been techniques of torture. *We* are the walking wounded, *we* are also the ones who started the revolution of healing.

 

[missbliss]

@sun seeker

Blessings and blissings to you <3 You know I can't read all the negativity - I just skim - but yours and others I do read - can't get caught up in the drama. Alice Miller yes. She is a champion. Thank you for your eloquence.

I've met some like minded people, as I mentioned earlier. I don't write all people from that generation off, even if I generalize in the way I put it. Obviously not all people from the 50's were raging narcissists and that's something that has probably been around for a very long time throughout history.

I don't agree that we've never been powerful enough..

Power is knowledge, knowledge is power. The knowledge was exchanged for cheap information. Reality for a dream. Satisfaction and self-gratification was sold to the masses as being hip, cool, desirable and the reason to be alive - when just the opposite is true. It's in the giving selflessly that results in positive attributes and you can't buy that with all the money in China.

30 years from now, I predict you might well be hearing the same things you're saying now directed back at you. (Which doesn't make it right.) Meanwhile, I think both sides of this fake divide have things of value to offer.

That's guaranteed not to happen. Only due to the course the world is heading in. In 30 years from now, those that survive will be assuredly an evolution of the heart. It will simply come as a result of understanding that nothing else but love exists and what was - in a distant memory - was one long era of masking.

 

[Philippa]

It's amazing how it's always we were *told* - they were *advised* - who were *they* - what was *their* agenda in *telling* mothers not to breastfeed their children, to let them cry it out, to be drugged if they cried too much because they wanted to be held and to be fed *formulas*? And yes, all sensory deprivation no matter what degree, can and if prolonged and frequent enough WILL set down the foundation for trauma after trauma after trauma.

Yeah, I have trouble accepting this line as well. It's like my mother telling me that back then they were all told smoking was harmless. Was it really that hard to think that inhaling smoke into lungs was really a bad idea? There were books on anatomy. It seemed that there was just a general willingness to accept whatever was told to them by authority figures without employing common sense.

 

[missbliss]

It seemed that there was just a general willingness to accept whatever was told to them by authority figures without employing common sense.

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 1860]

So let me get this straight....

You start a "pity my generation" sort of thread, which by most accounts would be negative in and of itself, and then you label any reply that doesn't support this "theory" as negative, thereby refusing to actually read what others have said.

Ok, well G'luck with that! I think you want someone else to blame. The thing is that EVERY generation has its issues. The baby boomers, then the Gen X'ers, and now the Millennials....

Maybe you have personally had a bad life, but I wouldn't extrapolate that and say that all baby boomers had a raw deal.

 

[missbliss]

So let me get this straight....

You start a "pity my generation" sort of thread, which by most accounts would be negative in and of itself, and then you label any reply that doesn't support this "theory" as negative, thereby refusing to actually read what others have said.
.

It was a terrible time, it was the darkest of ages, it was also a terrible childhood in a terrible atmosphere. It was also a terrible nightmare for many women who were given Thalidomide who then gave birth to children without limbs. It was a terrible time when people were told to duck and cover when being radiated by nuclear bombs. It was the most terrible of times. And I don't need your pity. If you don't understand what went down, just ignore this thread. There are plenty others to get straight.

 

[scout86]

And let's not forget the horrors of having to walk miles to school, barefoot in the snow..... (it was uphill, both ways.......)

I'm struggling a little to understand what the point of this thread IS. Those of us born during the baby boom had it worse that anyone else in history? The "darkest of ages"? Seriously? One of my favorite recurring nightmares involved nuclear war, I grew up hearing about body counts and riots daily on the news, I have/had friends who never really came home from 'Nam............ And yet I don't think I grew up in the worst period in history. I had a strange childhood. (Turns out it was stranger than I knew) but it could have been worse and it was peculiar to ME and MY life, it wasn't influenced much by the grand sweep of history. Except maybe that there were laws in place by then that actually DID limit some of the possibilities. One of my professors in college once said, "A few hundred years ago, people like you got burned at the stake." (and he was one of the ones that actually LIKED me). You know what? He was RIGHT! So, I'm actually glad I wasn't born during the REAL "Dark Ages".

If you're trying to get others to buy into the idea that that period in history was the worst ever to grow up in, it's very much an uphill battle. You're entitled to your opinion, of course. We all are and we are all entitled to disagree too. One of the most useful things around this place is the diverse view points and the willingness of people to say "Ummm. Excuse me, but that doesn't actually make any sense." Mostly they even say it nicely.

If you find it helpful to distort reality, engage in melodrama, and place blame on history, go for it, by all means. Personally, I can't see where any of that is useful. Although I'm still reading this and maybe I'll learn something.

 

[missbliss]

Sorry - I see that this has brought nothing but confusion. I will request to remove this and all other of my posts so as not to cause any more confusion or misunderstandings.

 

[scout86]

That would be too bad! Sometimes confusion and misunderstanding come before understanding. You have to stick with it long enough to get there.

 

[Philippa]

Yeah, I think the actual Dark Ages would have been a whole lot worse personally, if you were a pleb, but I wasn't there in the 50's. I have a serbian friend who grew up in a war zone in the last 20 years. Imagine being African in the 50's. There are all kinds of things that can be thought of to gain perspective, not to diminish what you did go through, however, it's a big thing to say that it was the worst period in the whole of history to grow up in. I'm sure it felt that way at the time though, so that isn't something that just goes away. History as a whole hasn't been too pleasant at times for most people who managed to survive it.

 

[Lionheart]

I think I got a rough deal, not because I am a baby boomer, but because I "landed" in a hostile environment.

Seems once you have been abused then other perps have an easier time singling you out of the crowd. I was unfortunate in that I had an alcoholic father and lived in a bad neighborhood where abuse was rampant.

Still, I think I understand what you are saying about baby-boomers and the 50's, (although I wasn't born until the early 60's). The "old school" way of thinking and doing was probably not the healthiest...

Although I think the real problem is the way that we socialize little boy and girls to become men and women.

Anyways, regardless of the time in which we were born and raised, I believe we can rise up victorious against the social and generational flaws of any given period, if we are committed to doing so.