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Dissociating During Sex (please Keep Non-graphic)

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As I am a "little" and drawn to older lovers I may have a differing/odd perspective. My sexuality (which was brutalized and stolen initially) is -mostly- my own now and I can be in both little headspace and fully grown at the the same time, which for me has been very empowering and healing. If you can just trust each other, share thoughts and feelings during non physical/sexual moments, take the time to process, and above all please be truthful with each other.
 
@WildMermaid .. Thank you for your addition to the discussion! I "feel" like my "little" man (his EP) is similar to how you describe yourself. This is a new development for us, cuz "junior" has the whims of a child, even though my man is also "grown up" at the same time. You are RIGHT ON with that last line:

If you can just trust each other, share thoughts and feelings during non physical/sexual moments, take the time to process, and above all please be truthful with each other.

Thank you!
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~S2B
 
Oh wow.. yeah, this didn't even occur to me until @WildMermaid brought it up about being a little. It's slightly off topic, but I know that one thing which drove my ex-wife crazy was that I seemed to be almost a child most of the time, but then wanted sex like a maniac. I think it disturbed her more than she let on. And having the multiples, switching from Kid during most times and then Fiend during sex.. That must have been so confusing. Gods, how horrible. :(

Then again, given the sheer level of co-dependence that we had going on, and co-dependence's roots being described as 'trying to make your partner into a replacement parent' it comes as no surprise.. Throw co-dependence and dissociation together and you have a recipe for disaster.

So it makes me wonder. In my earlier post, I said that Fiend might be ameliorated if a woman could be exceedingly gentle and giving with him. I wonder if that is really because of Kid, and some sort of switching that would be taking place...

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@Go Hungry .. What an eye opening revelation that must be ... :) And so good to see your "empathy" in the reflection. Putting yourself in another's shoes, so to speak. :hug:

Thankfully my man and I are older, so our approach is VERY different than if we'd tried to make a relationship work years ago. :( I like to think we've both matured enough, and are actively reflecting on our own weaknesses and differences and trying to be intentional about not "blaming" the other for our respective struggles .. I definitely see similarities from your story in my man - very child-like at times, very .. *ahem* passionate at others .. Being mainly co-conscious, he isn't always aware that he's in one "mood" or another. I am still learning how to "surf" when the wind changes. ;)

The romantic in me kinda thinks of him as my "Peter Pan" .. always rushing from a battle with the pirates over here to swimming with the mermaids over there, caring for the lost boys one minute (nurturing) and sword fighting with captain hook the next (incensed by injustice), and all the while teaching me to be brave, to fly, to find my "happy thoughts" and get my nose out of my books and into an adventure or two, and take a leap of faith!

KNOWING what we're dealing with, knowing WHY he is the way he is .. these are SO huge in making this a successful endeavor. I believe FIRMLY in my heart we WILL succeed, all the while there is this little nagging voice that likes to tempt me to fear failure .. what if what if what if ... We know we can only do so much. But we are determined to love each other well, EVEN IF we can't make the "relationship" itself succeed (in the conventional sense). We are going in with eyes wide open.

I have to believe this is possible, and I pray for grace to persevere through the hard seasons. :inlove: No illusions, here, that it's gonna be all fairies and butterflies and pretty flowers. We are digging through the mud sometimes, but we always re-assess .. is this worth it? YES.

I also hope and pray we aren't nursing some kind of "co-dependence" thing, but I think that we are alert to this as a real risk, we take steps to steer away from it. Challenging ourselves to go so and so number of hours (or even days) without "having" to have a conversation .. each building and living our "own" lives separate from one another, even while we are seeking to bring both of our worlds together ...

Any advice you might have on how to steer clear of the co-dependency (I know it's slightly off topic, but if I originated the thread, do I get to say whether we deviate or not? ;) )?

I would hate to be blind sided by something we've missed!

~S2B
 
Thanks for your post. And aargh.. codependence is a really rough thing, because it can sneak up on you really easy. It masquerades as normal love and compassion, but in fact it's a strange form of mutual abuse. Lemme tell ya a story.

There was this guy I knew back in college. He was a cool guy, really fun to be around, that sort of thing. He also had some troubles, as everybody does, he was mostly blind, some mental illness stuff, but those things happen. So we started hanging out, and it was all good for a while. But almost imperceptibly, he started putting more and more responsibility for HIS happiness and well-being on me. I would give him rides and stuff, because who wouldn't, but in the end it basically became a full-time job trying to appease this guy. He behaved like a child. Screaming fits, suicide threats, all sorts of shit.. Oh, the stories I could tell you about the demands that he made...

And all of it reinforcing the 'saviour' role that I had cast myself in. (I used to be really bad about trying to save people, but in fact it's just a form of manipulation to satisfy my own needs.) Eventually the burden became too much to bear.. I was seriously going to kill myself if it continued... So I dumped him. Just stopped talking to him. He reacted predictably, more screaming fits and suicide threats, and then almost immediately attached himself to another member of our social group in the same way. He was an emotional vampire, you see. He didn't know it, and certainly wouldn't have been happy to find out (because he was definitely not a NARC) but still.. he would devour your life if you let him..

Why have I said all of this? Because that's what co-dependence is all about. Two people, both of whom are troubled, usually with abandonment issues from caretaker failures of varying levels. (I say failures, because my parents certainly didn't "neglect" me in a criminal sense.) So generally one of them will be the child, and another the caretaker. And that child will ride the caretaker into the ground. I know I did, until my wife kicked me out (so glad she did, best thing that ever happened to me). But it couldn't have happened if she hadn't stepped into the caretaker role.

And it can happen to anybody, because everyone has some sort of impetus to care for others, and be cared for in return. That's just natural. But it can become pathological really easy.

I can't say that the things that I've been doing would work for everyone, largely because I live alone. So I have to take care of my own stuff, laundry, cooking, finances, loan payments, doctors.. All that stuff. Taking all that responsibility on for myself has kept me from going CODA on my parents, or other friends. Everybody just handles their own business. That might be helpful.
 
This phrase @ptsdspouse2b is evocative and brilliantly expressed...
The romantic in me kinda thinks of him as my "Peter Pan" .. always rushing from a battle with the pirates over here to swimming with the mermaids over there, caring for the lost boys one minute (nurturing) and sword fighting with captain hook the next (incensed by injustice), and all the while teaching me to be brave, to fly, to find my "happy thoughts" and get my nose out of my books and into an adventure or two, and take a leap of faith!
<3 *adore* :hug:
 
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