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Research Did Your Ptsd Sufferer Come Back After Their Bail Out? Tell Your Story Please

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I've looked through many many supporter relationship forum posts even from 50 pages ago and have found very few of those that had happy endings.

I'm looking for anyone that has had a happy ending where their PTSD sufferer romantic relationship partner came back. Want to know if the relationship was mended and if you stayed together or if in the end it fell apart from another unstructured bail out or if it failed as a normal relationship does where you two just were not good for each other.

Please tell your story. Time together total, how many bail outs, length of those bail out separations, etc. would be very useful. If you were married, just dating, etc. also very useful to know.

Trying to get a handle on the statistical view of these relationships for a post I plan to write shortly. It would be very helpful to other supporters to understand the situation they are in and could be in at some point.
 
Mr. Smith,

I am not a supporter but a suffer. My significant other and I have been together for almost seven years. During these seven years, four have been with me being down. When I say down I mean the whole gambit. I was angry, ranting, crying nonstop, blaming others, blaming myself. Then came the medications. I became flat. A zombie. Had no interest in anything. Like a store mannequin. He dragged me around everywhere and I hated every minute of it. I didn't go out during the day. If forced, I'd pick a fight and kick him out. Several times, I've even thrown his things out the front door into the front yard.

He is still with me. First, I'd like to say I don't do any of those things anymore. If I am upset, I am able to calmly explain why I am upset. Most likely it is a misunderstanding. Sometimes on his part, sometimes on mine. This happens often. But it is done heart to heart. No anger just kind explanations through understanding of our feelings.

We started by knowing each other as friends for 10 years before we started dating. It was a difficult relationship. He has been the responsible one in his family. His family is co-dependent. They also have mental illnesses, bipolar, borderline personality disorder, narcissism, manic depression. He never said. He introduced me as if they were the Walton's. Wholesome family...NOT. From the very beginning I was verbally abused by both his brother and mother. His brother became violent at times. Significant other acted like it was nothing. I stayed quiet...shocked...angry. The violence and verbal abuse (sometimes sexual verbal abuse) escalated...it became so bad my significant other would drive the hour to my house and stay with me for 3-4 nights a week. During this time my SO would ask me quite frequently "why don't you like my house?" "What is wrong with my house you hate it so much?" "You are a snob sorry I didn't know that before." I would go there as often as I could...almost literally once a week...even that was too hard to bear. Walking into his home which reeked of urine from two dogs that had never been cleaned so the wood floors had soaked it up. The filthy dirty floors, carpets, bathrooms, filthy smelly laundry all of it really made me sick and wonder how my SO didn't notice. We would often go to his home Friday nights after work and start cleaning his house, go to the grocery store, cook dinner and collapse around midnight. This occurred every Friday. Neither his brother nor mother worked. They sat around the house all day making a mess. When we would get there exhausted from a stressful day of work they would immediately whine saying they were hungry. It was sickening. What was more sickening was my SO didn't even notice this. Saturday morning I would hear them tell me what they wanted for breakfast. Like children. I realized by SO wanted me to be mother to his brother (not even a year younger than him), and to his own mother too. During this time, I fell sick. Really really sick. I was in a toxic work environment, I also had a long history of childhood abused caused by my parents but I had never felt any ptsd symptoms. I was successful and enjoyed my job where I earned a great salary. My SO saw me as someone who could help bail him out. He was really behind on property taxes. He couldn't make his mortgage. I had no idea. He mentioned it to me several times but never really addressed the issue. More like mumbling. Meanwhile, I still had my own home to manage with two kids and I was a single mom. It was tiring to bring my kids to his house and we were constantly trekking up there. It would have been easier for SO to just come down to visit me. But he kept saying the same things "don't know why you hate my family," "don't know why you hate my house." Now I know why I never told him. I hate saying things I can't pull back. What if I say something so horrible he not only will stop dating me but he will hate me. I didn't want that and it seemed the only response I can give him. I am simply to honest.

This went on during my breakdown and while I was drugged with so many SSRI's and Benzo's I couldn't even think straight anymore. I was off work. Hardly could maintain my home. Eventually he lost his home. His brother moved in with their father, mother in an assisted living community by the government. Also during this time, my SO moved in with me. I didn't ask him to. I didn't ask him to leave his family. I couldn't. I had enough on my hands with my children and trying to figure out a way to make ends meet while on disability, doing outpatient CBT and DBT courses. This went on for two years.

I finally have gotten the treatment I need. I am finally able to face what I am suffering from and I am getting better. This all now is dawning on me. I have finally found out what my SO's family's mental issues are (even he didn't know until about a week ago even though he had supported them his whole life). I now remember him calling me lazy, worthless every name in the book. I am angry. He has things to make right with me. He thought since I got sick I would stay sick forever like his mother and brother. He couldn't stand it. He had relied on me to be the strong one. Hadn't I lived through the worst childhood and was able to work and raise my children? I'm human. I break if too much is on my plate. He put too much on my plate and I let him. Now he is making amends. He is coming clean. This is really really difficult for both him and me. We are still together. I am not co-dependent on him. I am working, making a living again. We are closer now because we have a better understanding of each other. We are friends first and foremost. This is important. Sorry if this is too long. Hard to put this in a short abstract. Any questions? I am happy to answer.
 
Mr. Smith,

I am not a supporter but a suffer. My significant other and I have been together for alm...

I wasn't able to see the bail out scenario/s in there. Could you please help me see that portion clearly?
 
What do you mean bail out scenarios? Do you meant the thousands of dollars I paid to maintain his house with his mother and brother over a few months? Do you mean the times he drove drunk and crashed the car? Again all on my dime while sick? The walk outs on me constantly while I was sick? Probably a hundred times over. This happened constantly. Throughout the whole seven year relationship until I woke up (got better) and confronted him. It was awful...lots of screaming on his part. Crying on mine. I always took him back. He is getting help now. We are getting better. We are not throwing this dance away. We are committed.
 
What do you mean bail out scenarios? Do you meant the thousands of dollars I paid to maintain his hou...

Bail out scenarios: Where the PTSD sufferer just leaves and goes silent or mostly silent with no indication of if they will or will not be returning or if they give indication of not returning, it isn't very clear or for sure.
 
You know how those of us with PTSD stereotypically say things like "I'm more trouble than I'm worth" or "you'd be better off without me"? Maybe the truth is we know what we're talking about. Is that where you're going with this?

Considering those statements and actions resulting (bailing out with no communication or warning) are the problem, no that isn't the intended goal. It's sad that the folks that say and do those things sabotage their own relationship by doing so when they could just not and the relationship survive just fine. People that stick around in the PTSD relationships as supporters understand there is a learning curve and certain things to cope with but so does anyone that is with someone that is allergic to such and such or is handicapped, or any other various situations a human can get into at some point throughout life.
 
no that isn't the intended goal.
Then I'll be interested to see where you ARE going with this.

You could, I suppose, say that I "bailed" on my marriage. And I do have PTSD. And I suspect my ex would have said it was without warning or communication. My take on it was that he wasn't hearing anything I was saying. I left because I was no longer willing to live with things as they were. He was satisfied with things as they were and saw no reason to change. But he was plenty mad. And, to hear him tell it, it was all my fault. And boy did he tell it! I lost track of how many versions he had of the story. The part of it I'll take responsibility for was having a messed up enough world view to marry him in the first place. There are a LOT of versions to this story. Sorting out which ones are the closest to "reality" can be pretty hard.
 
Then I'll be interested to see where you ARE going with this.

It's in the main post...

You could, I suppose, say that I "bailed" on my marriage. And I do have PTSD. And I suspect my ex would have said it was without warning or communication. My take on it was that he wasn't hearing anything I was saying. I left because I was no longer willing to live with things as they were. He was satisfied with things as they were and saw no reason to change. But he was plenty mad. And, to hear him tell it, it was all my fault. And boy did he tell it! I lost track of how many versions he had of the story. The part of it I'll take responsibility for was having a messed up enough world view to marry him in the first place. There are a LOT of versions to this story. Sorting out which ones are the closest to "reality" can be pretty hard.

Yea, sometimes people do say crazy things but everyone has a perspective and sometimes it is right and sometimes it isn't. I'm not sure what to think because I don't know you both. It seems you are pretty sensitive about divorces though.
 
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My apologies Mr. Smith. I probably did the bailing out when I laid on my couch for a year and didn't really speak. He stayed by. I hoped he would. Quite honestly, we each have threatened each other constantly about leaving. He actually left, got drunk and was awful. He is sober now but like I mentioned, we are committed. We were clear when I wasn't sick that we were "for life" not just casual. It was a long relationship built on friendship. We didn't jump into it with just lust. In fact we as I said before, we were friends for years before we dated. I knew his principles, his belief system, he is a good person not by what he said but what he as done and continues to do. He will not leave me...no matter what. I knew that when I got into it. I wouldn't do it any other way. Trust is hard with PTSD...we push people away. Constant test them to see if they will leave. When they do we are both relieved and upset. We cannot control it. I don't do this anymore. I explain everything. My feelings. I'm better now and able to open up and be truthful, genuine, open to everything he says from his point of view. He tries to do the same for me. Again, it was all based on a mutual understand before I became ill. I'm not sure he would have hung around if he met me while I was sick. I don't believe I was capable of a relationship in the middle of my crisis. Too difficult to get better and worry about myself than worry about him and myself.

Again, I'm sorry if I am not talking about "bailouts." If I don't describe any it is mostly because I don't begin relationships that I know will end badly. I don't guess at it. It is my instincts that tell me so and they are always right. I go wrong when I don't listen. I believe most people do.
 
Again, I'm sorry if I am not talking about "bailouts." If I don't describe any it is mostly because I don't begin relationships that I know will end badly. I don't guess at it. It is my instincts that tell me so and they are always right. I go wrong when I don't listen. I believe most people do.

You are plenty fine and very helpful and patient with this forum thread. When you left for that year, did you do it in a normal consious way that people leave relationships or was it one of the PTSD episode induced sudden leaving and going silent situations? I'm trying to find out more about the PTSD induced bail outs. Many supporters are not really sure what others have seen and made it through. Going through many posts it seems that most supporters stop posting due to giving up or that things were fixed and just never came back to update their situation on the forum. When my lady bailed out a few years ago I posted about her leaving but when she came back I didn't come back and update the story on the forum. So knowing that kind of information will be useful to others. Trying to gather the data to get a better picture of things.
 
Trying to get a handle on the statistical view of these relationships for a post I plan to write shortly
It was the post you plan to write shortly I was referring to when I said "where you're going with it".
It seems you are pretty sensitive about divorces though.
My T often laughs, shakes his head, and says "You really DON'T get this stuff, do you?" So, I want to make it clear, I'm asking this just because I'm curious and would like to know the answer to the question. What, in what I said, makes it seem like I'm pretty sensitive about divorces?
 
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