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Simple bed time routine to promote sleep when you're more triggered - ideas please

beaneeboo

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Simple back story... am in a crisis house. Being here has triggered me for a number of reasons. Night times are especially bad and I'm phobic about going to bed. I've been in a state of 'i can't do anything about it' until last night staff here encouraged me to think about a sleep routine to try to be proactive and gain some agency over how i feel before going to sleep...

Do any of you have really SIMPLE ideas of what I could do in this facility? Nothing extravagant? I'm going to get a list together and then each night try one or 2 (or possibly more!) of them ... ideas i have are having a cup of tea, listening to some white noise in the background on my phone, box breathing...

Thanks 🙏
 
Brain is scattered but my simple bed routine that i sometimes can do even when im feeling messed up is comfort item / warm drink + some music or good noise.

The way my bed is set up means i have to “make” it every night, i think it helps me get into the mode of going to bed more easing into it. Maybe you could move your pillow or blanket in the morning so when it’s time to go to bed you put it back, and then you’re in control of the bed existing. If that kind of thing would work for what youre going through right now


I also sometimes change what end of the bed i sleep on if ive had a bad experience related to sleeping or the bed.
 
I also sometimes change what end of the bed i sleep on if ive had a bad experience related to sleeping or the bed.
Can you rearrange the furniture so it feels better/ the bed faces a different way?
WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THIS!? Great suggestion...I can't move the bed but I can change what end I sleep at...I don't be looking at the curved ceiling which is very triggering for me... I will give it a try, thank you so much...

in stressful environments, venting physical stresses is a biggie in my sleep hygiene. stretches, running in place, etc., are my go-to channels for shared spaces where drama is not appropriate.
On this recommendation I just went out on a longer walk in the time they'd allow me to go out.... you're right, it does help...
steadying support while you work it through, beaneeboo. hope healing happens here.
Means alot thank you
 
Simple isn’t my strong suit when it comes to sleep hygiene. I have a day-long sleep hygiene routine. I have some parasomnias which I need to manage in order to get a good sleep, and I need to get good sleep in order to keep myself out of mental health crisis!!

Cardio. At least 20 minutes. Absolute must for me. Almost any time of day (so it’s usually morning). Reality is the periods of life I’ve had the best sleep are the times when I’ve had the most physically demanding daily habits. When I’m struggling most, I make sure I’m doing long runs. Even just a brisk 20 minute walk, though, pays off for me in better quality sleep that night. Overall it’s time-saved when I add up hours lost to insomnia.

Yoga. 15 minutes is enough for me most days. I use the Downward Dog app so I can control how physically demanding I want it to be on any given day, and I can do it anywhere. If I’m in a particularly bad space at night, I’ve been known to get out of bed in the wee hours, do 15 minutes of yoga on the floor, then go back to bed.

Good nutrition at steady intervals. Definitely my sleep is even worse when I haven’t paid attention to the quality of my food, or whether I’ve downloaded at least 3 square ‘meals’ (a meal-replacement shake for at least 1 of those is fine). I avoid alcohol and limit caffeine (in time and quantity). There’s no massive sugar hits because that messes me up big time, especially my sleep. Slow-burning carbs at some point, and I drink 2-3 litres of water across the day. The nutrition is often my hidden gremlin when I find myself wondering “why is my sleep so shit right now!?”

Long shower before bed. I sleep better when I go to bed feeling and smelling clean and fresh. When I’m carrying a lot of tension, I make a point of making it hot as I can, and spending some time just having the hot water hitting the back of my neck and shoulders.

Reading. Last activity of the day when I’m curled up in bed. Helps me switch my brain off when I ultimately hit the hay. Sometimes that’s a 2 minute job, sometimes it’s over an hour. I read whatever I can disappear into. Sometimes that’s horror, sometimes it’s really light and fluffy, sometimes it’s textbooks! Nights when I’ve tried everything and still can’t sleep, I just lie there and read. At least I’m resting and not lying there stressing. I suspect that audiobooks would do the trick, but I’ve not converted - still go old-school.

White noise. My personal go-to for good sleep is sound involving water - lakes rather than rivers or waves, but any of them will do. I’d say that everyone will have their own strong personal preferences with this one based on past experience and learned sensory associations.

Guided relaxation. Originally a massive trigger (due to the similarities with being hypnotised). But so glad I worked through that. A good guided relaxation can work miracles for me. I try and don’t one every night, because it’s a good time to tick off breath-work, which done routinely, tends to pay off for me long-term. But I’ll add a longer one after I switch off the e-reader if reading hasn’t done the trick.

I’m pretty anal about some environmental stuff. I’m the demon that will swap pillows with people in hospital, or fold up a few towels for under the pillow if it’s not the right height. I have no qualms about people thinking my place is the local meth kitchen because of the kitchen foil blocking out the windows. I make my bed when I get up in the morning (there is research backing that one!!). I like moving air, so overhead fans are usually on, even of it’s low speed during winter. I never eat in bed (smell - can’t deal with the scent of food where I sleep) and I make sure the linen is washed regularly for the same reason.

So…yeah, I don’t not exactly keep it simple😬 I think over the years I’ve just gotten so sick of shitty sleep that it’s potentially become an unhealthy obsession. But my sleep hygiene approach is about physicality during the day (what I’m doing with my body, and putting into my body), dealing with my headspace in the time just prior to sleep, and taking care of the sensory experience that is my sleep-space.
 
When I can't sleep or can't calm down, I do yoga nidra meditation. You'd be amazed. Just look one up on YouTube. There's short ten minutes ones and hour long ones. Even a short one is enough to reset your nervous system.

Tea yes, but specifically chamomile or chamomile/lavender. That relaxes me so much. I use it before bed when I'm stressed or during the daytime after an anxiety attack.

Try exercising during the day, not as a bedtime routine. It'll help with your overall mental health and can provide an outlet so that stuff isn't overwhelming you at night.

I know none of these things will cure you, but they can help you manage it better. I hope you find some peace.
 
Simple isn’t my strong suit when it comes to sleep hygiene. I have a day-long sleep hygiene routine. I have some parasomnias which I need to manage in order to get a good sleep, and I need to get good sleep in order to keep myself out of mental health crisis!!

Cardio. At least 20 minutes. Absolute must for me. Almost any time of day (so it’s usually morning). Reality is the periods of life I’ve had the best sleep are the times when I’ve had the most physically demanding daily habits. When I’m struggling most, I make sure I’m doing long runs. Even just a brisk 20 minute walk, though, pays off for me in better quality sleep that night. Overall it’s time-saved when I add up hours lost to insomnia.

Yoga. 15 minutes is enough for me most days. I use the Downward Dog app so I can control how physically demanding I want it to be on any given day, and I can do it anywhere. If I’m in a particularly bad space at night, I’ve been known to get out of bed in the wee hours, do 15 minutes of yoga on the floor, then go back to bed.

Good nutrition at steady intervals. Definitely my sleep is even worse when I haven’t paid attention to the quality of my food, or whether I’ve downloaded at least 3 square ‘meals’ (a meal-replacement shake for at least 1 of those is fine). I avoid alcohol and limit caffeine (in time and quantity). There’s no massive sugar hits because that messes me up big time, especially my sleep. Slow-burning carbs at some point, and I drink 2-3 litres of water across the day. The nutrition is often my hidden gremlin when I find myself wondering “why is my sleep so shit right now!?”

Long shower before bed. I sleep better when I go to bed feeling and smelling clean and fresh. When I’m carrying a lot of tension, I make a point of making it hot as I can, and spending some time just having the hot water hitting the back of my neck and shoulders.

Reading. Last activity of the day when I’m curled up in bed. Helps me switch my brain off when I ultimately hit the hay. Sometimes that’s a 2 minute job, sometimes it’s over an hour. I read whatever I can disappear into. Sometimes that’s horror, sometimes it’s really light and fluffy, sometimes it’s textbooks! Nights when I’ve tried everything and still can’t sleep, I just lie there and read. At least I’m resting and not lying there stressing. I suspect that audiobooks would do the trick, but I’ve not converted - still go old-school.

White noise. My personal go-to for good sleep is sound involving water - lakes rather than rivers or waves, but any of them will do. I’d say that everyone will have their own strong personal preferences with this one based on past experience and learned sensory associations.

Guided relaxation. Originally a massive trigger (due to the similarities with being hypnotised). But so glad I worked through that. A good guided relaxation can work miracles for me. I try and don’t one every night, because it’s a good time to tick off breath-work, which done routinely, tends to pay off for me long-term. But I’ll add a longer one after I switch off the e-reader if reading hasn’t done the trick.

I’m pretty anal about some environmental stuff. I’m the demon that will swap pillows with people in hospital, or fold up a few towels for under the pillow if it’s not the right height. I have no qualms about people thinking my place is the local meth kitchen because of the kitchen foil blocking out the windows. I make my bed when I get up in the morning (there is research backing that one!!). I like moving air, so overhead fans are usually on, even of it’s low speed during winter. I never eat in bed (smell - can’t deal with the scent of food where I sleep) and I make sure the linen is washed regularly for the same reason.

So…yeah, I don’t not exactly keep it simple😬 I think over the years I’ve just gotten so sick of shitty sleep that it’s potentially become an unhealthy obsession. But my sleep hygiene approach is about physicality during the day (what I’m doing with my body, and putting into my body), dealing with my headspace in the time just prior to sleep, and taking care of the sensory experience that is my sleep-space.
Have you ever thought of becoming a sleep hygienist? Such a rounded 360 approach... everything you've said makes sense... what i like is the idea that prepping for sleep isn't just about the 15 minutes of what you do before bed ... it's through the whole day and built into your daily routine... thinking very consciously in that way is also self care which I think I can try to get on board with, because the goal is sleep, not necessarily 'self compassion'

@Sideways thanks, I'm going to get my thinking cap on and build a simple daily routine which has sleep hygiene in mind through the day... here is a good place to practice that too and focus on it whilst I don't have the demands of 'outside ' daily life on me too
 
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Thanks @Roland
When I can't sleep or can't calm down, I do yoga nidra meditation. You'd be amazed. Just look one up on YouTube. There's short ten minutes ones and hour long ones. Even a short one is enough to reset your nervous system.
Yes I've used yoga nidra and like you i find it really effective.... but i find it effective for when I haven't slept the night and need a brain reset during the day (it's the equivalent of a power nap)

But I'd forgotten I'd done this and I'd like to start using it in the day time anyway so great to have a reminder
Tea yes, but specifically chamomile or chamomile/lavender. That relaxes me so much. I use it before bed when I'm stressed or during the daytime after an anxiety attack.
Chamomile is a good one!!! I used to get the dried flowers (again, I forgot I'd done this!)
Try exercising during the day, not as a bedtime routine. It'll help with your overall mental health and can provide an outlet so that stuff isn't overwhelming you at night.
Good call...
I know none of these things will cure you, but they can help you manage it better. I hope you find some peace.
Thank you ... when I get into my triggered states I completely forget about all these strategies so it's great to be reminded

I'm actually feeling a bit inspired by all these posts 🙏
 
Thanks @Roland

Yes I've used yoga nidra and like you i find it really effective.... but i find it effective for when I haven't slept the night and need a brain reset during the day (it's the equivalent of a power nap)

But I'd forgotten I'd done this and I'd like to start using it in the day time anyway so great to have a reminder

Chamomile is a good one!!! I used to get the dried flowers (again, I forgot I'd done this!)

Good call...

Thank you ... when I get into my triggered states I completely forget about all these strategies so it's great to be reminded

I'm actually feeling a bit inspired by all these posts 🙏
I totally get that. When you're overwhelmed, all the things that'd help you feel out of reach, forgotten, unnatural.

I love using yoga nidra as a power nap, but it also helps me go to sleep if I can't sleep. I've used a long one and feel asleep before it was over. Maybe try it again?
 
I totally get that. When you're overwhelmed, all the things that'd help you feel out of reach, forgotten, unnatural.
👍
I love using yoga nidra as a power nap, but it also helps me go to sleep if I can't sleep. I've used a long one and feel asleep before it was over. Maybe try it again?
Ah ok, I'd always understood that yoga nidra is instead of sleep... and that it you use it too close to bed, it may revitalise you for the evening! So I'd always steered clear of using it...

I guess i could give it s try... 👍
 
👍

Ah ok, I'd always understood that yoga nidra is instead of sleep... and that it you use it too close to bed, it may revitalise you for the evening! So I'd always steered clear of using it...

I guess i could give it s try... 👍
That's definitely true. I have done a ten minute one an hour or two before bed and then couldn't fall asleep.

However, if you do it as you're going to sleep you may find it ushers you into a full deep sleep. At least that's what happens with me!
 

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