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“toxic” grandmother keeps shaming my behavior

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I’ve never done this on mobile before, so I hope my post will be easy to understand, let’s see.

I’m recuperating from surgery and my grandmother and her guy friend offered to take me in. So when I say she’s toxic, let’s assume she’s toxic in an unintentional way, and it’s not intended as an insult.

My grandmother and I have almost opposite personalities. She likes to shoot the breeze, I don’t. Her way of dealing with difficult things is to pretend it isn’t happening and everything’ll be allright. My way is to listen to myself and find solutions.

Just after my surgery I had a hematoma (internal bleeding), which is dangerous. She said that it was nothing to be worried about. I said it was. I went back to the hospital for a second emergency procedure. Since then I have a hard time trusting her judgement.

She thinks I see everything in a super-negative light and am too easily freaked-out. Her solution is to tell me what I “should” do (I should think about things in a different way) and to tell me that my way of handling things basically sucks and that I’ll never get anywhere like that. I’m 30.

Some examples.

- I know my landlord has been in my room several times without my permission and without notice. I told my grandmother I was thinking about changing the locks. She yelled at me that that would be super stupid and that these people would hate me forever

- In the hospital I was feeling nauseous and unable to eat one more bite of gross, dripping hospital food.

- She yelled at me like you do at a small child, to eat my dinner, and kept yelling when I said no several times, making an ass out of me in front of staff (who went through the trouble of bringing dinner because of her yelling)

- When I had quite a worrisome amount of wound fluid oozing out of the wound, I told her I would inform the surgeon, and that a friend was my backup and would drive me back to the hospital in case of an emergency. She screamed at me that I’m faint of heart and always making a big deal out of nothing

- Today again I was worried because there seems to be another potential complication. I’m seeing the surgeon again tomorrow, but all in all the entire experience has been exhausting and I’m in a crappy place mentally. So I told her that I would withdraw a bit until I feel calm. I was not in a condition to sit down and have a nice long chat with them, so she yelled at me, accusing me of always walking away

I’m so sick and tired of her, her partner is a great guy and I never have problems with him. But no matter what I do, it’s “wrong” and I always “should” be something different in her book. When once I told her that her constant ranting is not very nice either, she went out of her way to defend herself, calling herself a concerned and cheerful person, and was SHOCKED that I dare say something about her.

My dad is just like this, I’m out of touch with him, but it’s apparent where he learned it (she’s his mom).

Not sure what to do. Reasoning with her never works, just makes it worse. I discussed it with other family members (all kids of hers) and they said to let it go and just see she’s coming from a good place.

In the meantime I feel constantly invalidated and belittled. After the surgery and complications I just don’t have the energy to yell at her or put her in her place.
 
Hi Rad
You say it all here. I would save your energy and not yell. It would be a waste of energy on your part as we can only control our own actions. I would think as soon as you are able get away from her and look after yourself. I would not put any value on anything your grandmother says. it is the way she is and she has been like that a long time. I would keep my distance if I could.
Peace be safe
P/S I do wonder why you came to a site for PTSD survivors when you state that you don't have PTSD under your name. Or is this just denial of your situation
 
Thanks Esterio.

Let me clarify about my caption. It says I am not PTSD (it does not say I do not have PTSD).

Those are two different things for me. I am diagnosed: but I also have a personality. That is to say PTSD does not define who I am in my core. We could have a discussion about that but maybe in a different thread.

I agree with you about the grandmother situation. It’s hard not to let her get to me, considering my parent was just like that.
 
Literally yelling? Doesn't really matter, it just makes her behavior more out there.

I'm guessing you really need a place to stay, other than your own apartment, right now? That's the only thing that would make it worth dealing with all this!

Assuming you can't just leave, this sounds like a job for "radical acceptance". She's not going to change. She probably has no idea how she comes off. (Giving her the benefit of the doubt?) Her judgement sounds pretty questionable. Proven by the fact that you actually HAD complications, right? I'd say trust your own judgement, it's good, and it's also your body. Ignore her as best you can, and get yourself somewhere less stressful ASAP.
In the meantime I feel constantly invalidated and belittled
That's the reason I say don't listen to her. She's wrong so her vote doesn't count. For however long you have to stay there, let her words be like water off the back of a duck.
 
She was yelling in the hospital, at home she just gets all stressed and talks loudly but no yelling. I don’t think she knows this about herself, I mean just like dad, she really thinks that what she says is good and/or sweet.

I feel for my dad and wonder if he got yelled at constantly and invalidated like that. It would explain a lot of stuff. I’ll try to be like the duck, I like the analogy ;)
 
Older people have a very different way or doing, acting, and thinking than the rest of us... Most have grown up in a society where mental health isn't held in the same regard as it is today. PTSD has been around since WW2 but it was known as battle fatigue, shell shock, etc. I'm impressed they even bothered learning sympathy and compassion in those days considering how the mentally ill were treated.

I dont think you'll get much empathy from a person who has lived a long life of sweeping things under the rug and pretending to be cheerful despite emotional, and apparently, physical ailment. She understands what works for her and because shes lived so long she probably thinks she's giving you good advice and thinks she's trying to teach you a "better way" of looking at things. But in the same way she can't change you, you can't teach an old dog new tricks either.

I would accept who she is at this point. She's been this way forever and no amount of pain or anything is going to change what she thinks is best. She sounds pretty headstrong.

When are you recovered and able to leave and be away from her? I think you will just have to create emotional and mental boundaries until then. She's stressful, yeah, but you'll have to find ways to seperate yourself from it and take her for how she is... its the most realistic advice I can give.

What do you think?
 
I like your explanation @Supervixn :) I hadn’t thought of that. My other grandparents were also austere but in a much different manner - they preferred to keep silent and gaze at you if they didn’t agree. It’s easy to romanticize them but I think I incline to the same silent behavior.

@Rain yes she does. Most often when I’m agreeing with her or when I’m visibly sad because she likes taking care of people who feel vulnerable. The thing is I can be vulnerable on my own sometimes, keep it to myself (literally, space to think) and in her world that’s not okay.
 
Most often when I’m agreeing with her or when I’m visibly sad because she likes taking care of people who feel vulnerable. The thing is I can be vulnerable on my own sometimes, keep it to myself (literally, space to think) and in her world that’s not okay.

I am sorry to hear that she has conditions because I was going to suggest to find ways to appeal to her softer side so that you might have an easier time with her. I guess I did not count on her having conditions.

I hope that you will be feeling a little better really soon.
 
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