News 14 Safeguards For Therapists

[StellaBlue]

I saw this on another forum...thoughts, discussion?

http://pro.psychcentral.com/exhaust...herapists-working-with-personality-disorders/

 

[Rumors]

Yikes! I thought is was an awful article..... She should think about another profession perhaps...

 

[PlainJane]

:wtf:

 

[Bees Are Awesome]

Wow. I'm not sure what to say about that.

 

[Deleted member 29920]

If she's so "exhausted" as she describes herself, she is in the wrong profession. Basically saying most people with personality disorders are lying?! What an idiot. Probably hasn't spent a single moment in the real world, maybe she has a personality disorder herself.. Or a disorder I like to call "useless therapist-itis"!!!

 

[Sammyiam]

After reading that I don't think I want to go to therapy ever again, if that's what my therapist thinks of me, I would rather never talk to anyone ever again than have her think of me like that. :(

 

[StellaBlue]

Yeah, I found it a little...disheartening. A counselor I know told me she knew of another therapist who she couldn't be around because she was constantly mocking and belittling her own clients. You would think her clients would sense this...

 

[PlainJane]

There is an obvious stigma in the world already regarding disorders. It's nice to see a therapist contributing to the ever growing problem of assumptions and misleading others to the same inaccurate conclusion.

I really don't doubt there are people like what the person is describing in the article (cough cough my mother) but it's wrong to lump people together and say "they all must be this way, because of this." It's just ignorant. It's unethical to treat another human being in such a manner let alone a paying client.

I feel a rant coming, I'm done.

@StellaBlue, her poor clients probably did sense it, but she convinced them that they were just being paranoid furthering their belief of their dysfunction in society.

Ok, I'm really done.

 

[The Albatross]

Found the article nauseating and her replies to comments more so..... ick.

 

[Friday]

I thought it quite good, actually.

But then, I was married to a psychopath (one of the personality disorders the author is referencing), who used therapists as weapons in his legal battles when we divorced, and now continues to use them against his new wife & children.

Spoiler: A few personal examples

In one of the documents he provided to he courts in our divorce, in page 1 he accuses me of not letting our child spend time with his family (isolating & controlling behavior on my part ;) so he claimed, painting himself & our child my victims)... On page 27 he talked about the cruel abuses he suffered in his childhood. From the very same people I was "unfairly" keeping our child from (pedophiles & addicts & abusers, oh my). I had to highlight these 2 sections & resubmit them to all the professionals involved. Because they didn't make the damn connection themselves. Hellooooooo. :facepalm::mad::banghead:

He uses "family" therapy, at present, as one of his ways to control his new wife... Because in family therapy one of the premises is that it takes 2 to tango... Therefore she is "at fault" (at least in part) for the abuses he dishes out on her... And don't even get me started on this "united front" bullshit of agreeing with the abuse of children in order to create that united front. Gah. f*cking nonsense.

Point being... The author is very clearly talking about safeguards for therapists to take when counseling abusers of various ilks. Ones who would use their time in therapy as a weapon against others, and against the therapist themselves.

For all y'all with narcissists & psychopaths & serious personality disorder abusers... Especially those who wished someone had "done something"... That something is usually court ordered counseling. Do you really want their counselors buying into their lines of bullshit, and feeding their egos in how they are exactly right to be treating their kids & spouses as they do? Really?

 

[Recovery4Me]

Excerpt from article offered:

Some of the most stimulating therapy sessions are from clients who have personality disorders. There is never a dull moment. Their stories are fascinating and fabricated, their perception is unnerving and improbable, and their behavior is eccentric and luring. But with them comes the unpredictability of the next session and the likelihood that not much progress will be made.

http://pro.psychcentral.com/exhaust...herapists-working-with-personality-disorders/

With all due respect, this part alone carries several cognitive distortions and exhibits a sad commentary on shadow of the therapist. It is apparent that her education did not serve her in several areas both personally as well as professionally. There is an old saying, "Physician heal thyself." and I am sure some of her peers have simply uttered, "That is a malpractice waiting to happen." Perhaps in time, she may seek the assistance she needs to understand prejudice, professional discretion, empathy and healthy boundaries for personal self-care.

 

[scout86]

My T has occasionally warned me to "be careful what I say to people in his line of work" (meaning OTHER people in his line of work). I can see why.

My first thought was that she should be working with "people" not "disorders". My second thought was that the characteristics of those personality disorders vary wildly and it would be pretty hard to deal with people very well by lumping them all together. My third thought was "what's her point?"

I think what she said probably DOES apply to some individuals. Lying is part of the diagnostic criteria for a few of those disorders. But not all of them. There ARE people who use therapist to try to game their families and the system. (I was married to one too. Fortunately, he wasn't as good at it as Friday's) But not ALL of the people with ALL of those disorders.

Can someone actually get better if their therapist doesn't believe they can? Because there's a huge difference between the outlook for people with some of those "disorders". And people with SOME of them most likely CAN benefit from therapy, with the right T. Probably not psychopaths & narcissists, but they're kind of a different lot.