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And The Isis Beheadings Continue...

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Time to read the book of five rings. Not sure why I haven't read it yet. I think I tried reading a PDF version of it awhile back and it was confusing as shit lol. I just got it for kindle now though and its good just started.

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Hey everyone,

I have some honest questions about the ISIS videos. Obviously, I am just looking for opinions to help me rationalize what I've seen. I watched them all. I watched Berg's video years ago. They make me highly uncomfortable, but I think it is important to see them, first hand, instead of taking "their" word for it. "Their" being media, government, etc - fill in the blank. If I am considered a sick f@#k, then so be it. It is not like I enjoy them. They are disturbing.


Why are the victims going along with reading these statements? I realize they are not combat oriented, but it just seems like a bulls*$t way to go. Trying to rationalize this only leaves me with the fact that they are probably being tortured, though they look healthy enough and don't seem very scared.


With the first question, why are they just accepting their fate so calmly? The only resistance, which wasn't even resistance but, more than likely, just human reaction to pain, was when Sotloff's legs kind of kicked up like he was trying to stand up or get away from what was happening. I just can't fathom how they seem so accepting of what is happening. My only idea is maybe their families are being threatened since we, evidently, have ISIS members, here, in the US.


I have read in other places that they may have been drugged. I don't believe that is the case. They seemed completely alert and were able to easily recite their lines. The videos were, obviously, edited so there is also speculation that the "scenes" were rehearsed multiple times, which would kind of desensitize the victims - which makes a little bit of sense to me. I don't understand why they didn't show the actual beheading itself. In the Berg video, they didn't hold back and ISIS are supposed to be much more ruthless than Al Qaeda. I am quite relieved it wasn't shown, as that is what I was prepared for, but it leaves the door wide open to speculation. There are a lot of people saying it is fake and being used as a false flag by our government, like propaganda. I don't believe it is fake. Death never looks real, in my opinion, no matter how many times you see it.


Sorry for the long post. I think I am just in a little bit of shock right now and I want others' points of view to help me process. Of course, my heart goes out to all the families. I can't imagine the horror of being so helpless while your love one is butchered. It is unfortunate that there wasn't more that could be done to help them. I, also, feel extremely sad for Iraq, and Syria, as a whole. It feels like just yesterday I was there talking with the little Iraqi girls that seemed so fascinated with me. I can't imagine what has become of them.


My best to you all.
 
Well it's interesting becouse I too thought about the same things you noticed. My answers came to me by looking through my experience. I was a gunner, or dismount depending on the missions. I recall going through what I have now termed the losing all hope phase at the beginning of each deployment. Knowing everytime you roll onto a street there at any moment boom and your gone. within the first two weeks of each deployment that thought would eat me up to the point where to be focused I had to come to terms with my own possible fate. Once I accepted it, and lost all hope. I considered myself dead already, then I could function better. In seemingly insane situations, to be calm as a hindu cow to borrow from fight club.
I would have to imagine the fact that these men had been held for extensive periods of time, that they had already come to terms with the fact they probably were'nt going to live to make it home, and I found through my own experience that it can be a humbling experience that gives us that strenghth at the end. Others who where able to make it home that were with these men already reported that infact they had been tortured quite extensively especially Mr.Foley, once it was found out his brother served actively in the airforce as a pilot. Each one of these men lived through that for well over a year a piece so trying to use a rational mind to figure out an irrational situation would only leave one with more questions.
I dont think any of us will ever know how well we would go down in the same situation until it occured, we may entertain the thought that we would spit in the enemies faces to the bitter end, but in the end we just dont know, until we know.
 
It seems (to me) a mix of both acceptance of a fate they can't escape. Plus perhaps trying to keep calm for any other prisoners that might be present.
They may have been tortured during their time of captivity. Death might not be unwelcome.
 
I agree with you guys. I guess it is just really hard to accept the fact that we will never really know. It's so barbaric, while most of the world has moved past all that. That's like.... soooo 1400's
Btw, SGT.Sunshine. thank you for posting that video. I watched it and learned a thing or two.
Thanks guys for giving me your two cents.
 
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