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Anxiety/ptsd Causing Problems In Relationship

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I've been dating my boyfriend for almost a year after purposefully avoiding intimacy for almost 5 years. I find it difficult to trust others or allow others to be close to me. I had an abusive parent and emotionally distant parents, and experienced sexual assault when I was a teenager. I'm now 30 and function pretty well despite having PTSD, anxiety, and the now rare panic attack.

When dating someone new, my subconscious main concern is my own safety. I have just recently realized this, and I think this is true for many women who have experienced sexual assault or abuse. Most of my anxiety in the relationship revolves around my ability to trust him. Not in the way of sexual fidelity, but does he respect women? How does he perceive women? Does he view us as true equals, or only until it becomes inconvenient? And all these boil down to: will he ever hurt me?

On the conscious level I don't think he will ever physically hurt me. I was attracted to him because of how kind and respectful he was to me. He's a good guy and he's kind but completely unaware of PTSD and issues like that. He has never experienced severe anxiety. He's the type to always avoid any unpleasant thoughts. So I've never felt like opening up to him about it. I don't want to bother him with it. All he knows it that I have anxiety and have had panic attacks before. We don't go into detail.

But it has been causing problems in our relationship. For example, on one of earliest dates we went to the movies with a friend of his. While we were getting ready, I was feeling anxious. My anxiety about going into a crowd and into a movie theater was building up, but I was doing some mental exercises to talk myself down and try to have a good time. He's very extroverted and was energetic about going out, and didn't notice my anxiety at all. To be fair, I'm also great at hiding it. We meet up with his friend and he's having fun and doesn't realize a couple times when he talks over me. This adds to my anxiety, which already has my heart pounding, my breathing is restricted, and my mouth is dry. I start to feel slightly nauseous.

To make matters worse, when we are walking to the theater he is so distracted catching up with his friend that they are walking like 10 feet ahead of me. I'm short and they're both tall and I'm trying to keep up. I felt completely ignored, and then sure enough I get cat-called by some assholes across the street. He and his friend notice and stop and turn around. They make some remark to me about how the guys doing the cat-calling were dressed, but said nothing to the guys directly. I was angry that he did not speak out and defend me, and that his walking so far ahead of me left me vulnerable to be street harassed in the first place! Making some remark to me about their clothes doesn't help solve the problem of them disrespecting me and making me feel unsafe! Street harassment is not a big deal to guys who never experience it, but for me it is a huge sexual assault trigger. And it happens way to much. So at this point I am on the verge of a panic attack, and when we get into the theater motion sickness kicks in and I escape to the bathroom to have my panic attack. I threw up several times. It was awful and lasted a few minutes. But I knew I'd have to re-enter the theater and my anxiety never subsided. I don't know how but I made it through the movie, but I couldn't bring myself to make eye contact with him the entire time. I was angry and felt like I couldn't trust him or feel safe with him.

When we get back to the car he asks me if I'm upset. I have no idea how to explain any of this to him. I just said that my anxiety was very bad that night and that I really wanted to go home. When we get home he is pushing me to talk to him, which makes me close off more, and I say something about how he interrupted me and talked over me. He has no idea where any of this is coming from. We have our first fight that night, and he leaves rather than staying over as planned. His leaving brought back some pretty bad feelings of abandonment and being alone as a child. It was a bad night. He never understood exactly why I was so upset but the next morning he came to see if I was ok. He obviously cares, and we've been together ever since.

I know that if I want this to work I will have to eventually tell him, both about my PTSD and about the sexual assault. I should probably tell him about my abusive parent as well. But I have no idea how to do this, or how he will react. It just doesn't seem fair to give that burden to someone else. It is not his responsibility to protect me the way my parents never did, and so I shouldn't feel so hurt and betrayed when he fails to, right? Any advice?
 
Sounds like you're really self-aware of it @firebloodteeth . :tup:

But maybe there's different ways to see it.. The cat calls did not need protection exactly (though other future actions 'could').

Idk, I am learning anxiety comes from the fear of the feeling(s). Whole different way of trying to find the understanding & control of it.. :wideeyed:
 
You sound like you feel very vulnerable. Anything that feeds into that is just making you more anxious. Do you have feelings of shame about your traumas? You know that you were just a child and had no way to escape. And the sexual assault was tremendously traumatic. Trying to pretend that your history didn't happen is going to eventually make him feel alienated. Do you have a therapist who can help you with fear/anxiety/shame/abandonment? It may help
 
I think it's really good that you can describe it all like this. I also think you're really self-aware and that's good. Of course I know that noticing the problem and realizing where it comes from, still doesn't mean it's gone or that you've found a solution.

I totally understand that you feel betrayed and have felt that too with situations like those. But I also think that you're right that other people will find it unfair that you are feeling like that, 'because it's not his job or his fault'. Although you do protect the person you're having a relationship with. I hope that you van talk about it sometime. When I read your story, I see things of which I also think 'he probably won't understand', but also soms signs that maybe he will.
I think you do need to talk about it with him, because it can't keep going like that till eternity (such as the bad experiences with the cinema visit). I absolutely don't mean that you're not good die each other, but situations will keep happening that you both will feel bad about or het a fight over, because you don't understand each other. And I don't want that to happen to you, you deserve a nice relationship.

And also people without PTSD don't like it if they're kinda left behind, such as the people walking dat ahead in front of them, only talking between them etc. He probably doesn't notice, because he's having a lot of fun. If he really doesn't understand, after you tried stalking about it, maybe you can go together some time, without his friend? It's logical that couples also want to spend some time alone, including activities. This doesn't fix your problem that it causes anxiety, but maybe it will help. Then he has more attention for you, it's easier to talk about it etc.
You can also try discussing the cat calls. How you feel about it and what does he think when that happens? Can he say something to them or will you both say nothing, to avoid maybe bigger trouble?
 
Sounds like you're really self-aware of it @firebloodteeth . :tup:

But maybe there's...
I disagree that the cat-calls "don't need protection". They make women feel unsafe, it's wrong to do, and any decent man should indeed call it out and stand up for the women they are with if they give a damn about them, whether it's a girlfriend, sister, or friend. Sexually objectifying women in this way DOES lead to violence. And pretending that they are not a big deal does not help in any way. I myself have been threatened with violence and charged at by a cat-caller for standing up for myself.
 
You sound like you feel very vulnerable. Anything that feeds into that is just making you more anxio...
Thank you for your reply! I have recently begun to see a therapist who I like a lot. We are just now getting into discussing the physical abuse, but I haven't yet disclosed to her the sexual assault. I've never disclosed it to any therapist or boyfriend before. I have only just recently told a friend, so I imagine it will take me a long time to tell my therapist. Shame and self-blame are certainly factors.

The whole not being able to escape thing is something my therapist brought up as well. Movie theaters also seem to be a trigger for panic attacks because of the feeling that I can't escape the environment. Being stuck in traffic is another. This is something we're working on currently.
 
I think it's really good that you can describe it all like this. I also think you're really self-...

Thanks for your response! I have trouble trying to talk to him about it because I feel like I shouldn't bother him with it, maybe he will or won't understand, but either way I should just not dampen his time or his life with it. Everyone has their own problems and I don't want to add to his by giving him the burden of mine. I guess I should tell him eventually, but I just don't know when would ever be a good time. Maybe if he directly asks me, "Hey, is there anything traumatic that you want to tell me about that I should know?" That would be awesome!
 
What I've found is that if I want to trust someone? I have to be worthy of trust, too.

Which means not hiding shit & lying to them.

I'm not talking about unloading your entire trauma history on them. How much to disclose of our pasts, when, & where is a highly personal thing. I'm talking about when those guys were whistling? Telling him that bothers you. Otherwise there's no way to know. A lot of women enjoy that kind of attention, a lot aren't bothered by it, a lot it affects deeply. If his previous girlfriends have gotten a laugh out of catcalls? Or been oblivious to them?Theres no way for him to even guess it bothers you. Much less how much it bothers you. In fact, he may well have been trained by an ex to see any kind of solicitation / acting as if that would bother her / as being disrespectful towards women. ((I know waaaaay to many guys who have gotten their nose smacked with newspaper for "gentlemanly" type behavior. Told that it's disrespectful, dismissive, and insulting.)) Even better than being honest about it bothering you when it does, if you want him to do something very specific? Tell him what. ((Hey baby? When there are assholes harassing me on the street? I would really love for you to put your arm around me so I feel safe.))

Ditto... When puking in the bathroom. Telling him that you were, and the real reason why; that those guys upset you so badly you were sick over it. And what you want to do (try and enjoy yourself at the theater, not let it disrupt your plans).

None of this ^^^ is my natural state of being. My knee jerk, period, is "I'm fine." Don't show weakness. Don't ask for help. Gut up. Suck it up. Harden the f*ck up. I'm fine.

What telling him / being honest with him gets you? An ally. You'd still do exactly what you did... Stay and watch the show, go home after. But he isn't left in the lurch / in the dark / feeling something is wrong, but not knowing what, why, if it's him or unrelated, etc.

If I want to trust them? They have to be able to trust me. Trust me to tell them when something is wrong. Trust me not to lie to them. Trust me to tell them what I need/want. So they can depend on me, and I can depend on them. It's a two way street.
 
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I disagree that the cat-calls "don't need protection".

Oh I'm sorry @firebloodteeth , I didn't express myself well. What I meant was, (just for me personally) because one of the main troubles I have with ptsd is rarely feeling safe, I try to think "Stop" & what threat is this truly, in the moment? (eg Do I have a way to get away? Witnesses? A phone? etc). Not what it feels like but rather in-the-moment risk-assessment. Though I agree with what @Mel (Hippo256) & @FridayJones said:

You can also try discussing the cat calls. How you feel about it and what does he think when that happens? Can he say something to them or will you both say nothing, to avoid maybe bigger trouble?


What telling him / being honest with him gets you? An ally. You'd still do exactly what you did... Stay and watch the show, go home after. But he isn't left in the lurch / in the dark / feeling something is wrong, but not knowing what, why, if it's him or unrelated, etc...
If I want to trust them? They have to be able to trust me. Trust me to tell them when something is wrong. Trust me not to lie to them. Trust me to tell them what I need/want. So they can depend on me, and I can depend on them. It's a two way street.

Best wishes to you & welcome btw.
 
What I've found is that if I want to trust someone? I have to be worthy of trust, too.

Which means...
"Not hiding shit and lying to them" sounds a bit bitter and accusatory to me. I have not lied to him and I resent the assumption. I also feel it unfair to use the term "hiding shit" because it implies that I am willfully attempting to conceal something in a deceptive manner. When in fact, I am simply learning how to be in an intimate relationship with someone for the first time in years and we are both slowly opening ourselves up to one another. I guess I will talk with my therapist about when and how to do that, because your insensitive language does not make me want to at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. You are also implying that I am not trustworthy myself, because I have been the victim of sexual trauma and haven't felt safe to tell him that yet? No way. By that logic, anyone in a relationship who hasn't disclosed absolutely everything about themselves what, on the first date, is untrustworthy? Not to mention there is a great deal of shame surrounded sexual abuse, and being told I am untrustworthy, "hiding shit", or lying isn't going to help me feel safe to open up to him. Your language also implies that I am somehow obligated to tell him these things, otherwise I am deceitful and a liar. This is completely contradictory to what my therapist has said about disclosing the abuse: I am in no way obligated to tell him. Whether I do is up to me. I do feel that it is best for our relationship if I tell him eventually, but I am not "lying" or being untrustworthy if I do not feel comfortable disclosing it to him. Likewise, if he has any traumatic experiences, he is not obligated to tell me, nor would I accuse him of "hiding shit" or "lying" or being unworthy of my trust if he did not.
 
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What I've found is that if I want to trust someone? I have to be worthy of trust, too.

Which means...
I find it interesting that any time a woman talks about street harassment, there is always some dude quick to jump in and say that "Hey, some women like it!" despite the great statistics that show a significant majority of women do not. UCLA did a study last year that found that 95% of women do not. So I should correct my post and change "cat calling" to "street harassment" because that is a more accurate term for it. Either way, I think you even having to say that is just derailing from the issue of how awful it is and how it made me feel, which increased the panic attack. It's almost as if guys say this to justify themselves doing it. I also find your response to have a lot of victim-blaming aspects to it. You imply that if I had disclosed more about how I felt in the movie theater that things would have gone better. That is absolutely not helpful at all to say, and it in fact places blame on me. I did what I felt I had to do in the moment to survive the panic attack. This was one of our first dates, and it was in no way the right time to disclose anything to him. I did tell him I wasn't feeling well, having anxiety, etc, but like I said in my post, I did not want to ruin his time. When we got home I tried explaining things the best I could given my mental state. Also, the type of trust I am talking about in the beginning of my post is specifically in regards to being a woman who has been sexually assaulted by a man, and how that affects dating someone who is physically larger than me and can overpower me. You then turn it around onto ME somehow being untrustworthy? You just don't get it. Yeah, I just find your response to be incredibly problematic and insensitive to women's experiences with sexual trauma.

Any advice from women who have experienced something similar is welcome.
 
You're reading all kinds of tone & motivations into what I wrote that aren't there. All of your conclusions about what I was implying, or what I really meant, from reading between the lines are completely wrong.

In the first place, I was very specifically talking about my life, & my lessons, and what I have learned.

Where I referenced examples from your post was to illustrate the difference in between trauma-dumping &/or disclosure, what I was not talking about... In fact I made a very clear point of saying so*... and being honest & forthright in the moment.
I'm not talking about unloading your entire trauma history on them. How much to disclose of our pasts, when, & where is a highly personal thing.

And then went right back to sharing my own lessons. What I've learned, in my life, is this, this, & this. When I do this? This happens. When I do that? That happens. If I want this? I need to do this. All of it may apply to you, or none of it. Take what you like and leave the rest. Because in In the second place? I'm not attempting to get you to do anything.

because your insensitive language does not make me want to at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.

My experience with...

To be fair, I'm also great at hiding it.

...was what I was sharing with you. It leads to some fairly predictable results: When I don't tell someone what I need/want, they have no way of knowing; when I'm not being trustworthy, it's virtually impossible for me to trust anyone else, either.
 
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