Are Vets Who Wern't In Direct Combat Actions Really Welcome Here?

[Jimmy1]

I don't doubt you mate, and I know of people here who served, claimed for PTSD and Agent Orange for Nam and never left Australia.

I am just saying, just because he was a squid, don't put him down, and don't question his PTSD.

Ask Wagon his story and he will share if he wants. He was a squid.

You will not get banned, just tone it down a bit mate and don't personally attack people, you don't know his full story.

You will end up scaring veterans away who might be considering posting. They will think they are not good enough to meet your level.

 

[daniel]

today you just have to have boots "on" the ground in a warzone to claim ptsd. you don't even have to have a stressor. but a perceived threat while "in" the warzone because of the ammunition and all the nukes is just f*cking stretching it. its a test to see if it can open the door for the poor babies who were not on the ground. and some touchy feely politically correct asshole will probably buy into it. just shows how much people think ptsd is a way to easy money.

i can't change what it has morphed into, but by god if i think you're wrong i'll have my say to shame the motherf*ckers claiming. who the f*ck am i and what business is it of mine - no one and nothing! but i am one of the original veteran's that the diagnosis was written for. they threw all the natural disaster shit in to give it some legitimacy . . . not everyone is as complex or chronic as me, but everyone want's that 100% - Maybe you belong on the other section of this forum because the crap i'm reading here has nothing to do with "combat ptsd." i'll voluntarily ban myself from lame ass shit like this guy wrote.

 

[Zipperhead]

Mom! They're fighten again! Mom!

 

[Sludge]

I'm a squid....and the worst kind: a gator-squid! And given the nature of the class of ship, we were the lowliest of low gator freighters because our ONLY mission was to get on the beach to get pissed-off jarheads out there to do what the Green Machine does. Am I embarrased? Damn straight...that is par for the course.

Here is my two cents worth. To my knowledge we don't trade war stories here. That's what the VFW on a Sunday afternoon is for.

Here is about getting through this nasty mess with the support of fellow veterans that care more about coping with the issue, rather than what is the cause.

 

[Jimmy1]

No Dan, you just go too over the top mate. I was a pogue in Baghdad and in a training team in East Timor, but I have had rounds buzzing around my head and mortars raining around my ears. I have seen 'Your' fellow countrymen lying screaming and other burnt and in pieces in the back of a hummer going through our check point. Does that make me any different to the next person with PTSD. No it doesn't.

Yes, there are guys out there who claim it and they probably have done since WWI, but what gives you the right to claim that people on this site don't have PTSD, nothing.

I appreciate your input, but get of your high horse mate. Just because you were in Vietnam does not make you special.

- no one and nothing! but i am one of the original veteran's that the diagnosis was written for. they threw all the natural disaster shit in to give it some legitimacy . . . not everyone is as complex or chronic as me, but everyone want's that 100% - Maybe you belong on the other section of this forum because the crap i'm reading here has nothing to do with "combat ptsd."

How do you know how complex or chronic anyone else is????

 

[Zipperhead]

Okay, I'm getting the garden hose out. Knock it off you two!

 

[daniel]

the right is a whole lot of people gave their lives fighting for those next to them. and if you want to buy into the watered down f*cking version of ptsd that is out there now go ahead. i been in this for a long time and i know for a fact there are more phony claims to ptsd than real. what makes this site any goddamn different. phony it up all you f*ckers want and cover it up to (this wasn't an indictment on the whole navy). go ahead and play your games, some f*cker like me down the road with tear your f*cking head off and shit down your neck. Later much later your f*cking lames. delete my account it's just another phony ptsd site . . .

 

[Jimmy1]

Awesome, click on the name till the box appears then hit ignore. Love it.

 

[anthony]

Daniel, you're being a wanker, seriously. Please tone it down...

For those who respond to aggressive posts, then you also have a choice... respond and continue inflaming it, or ignore the user. To ignore, this will hide all their posts from you, so you will have to physically click a link to read what they respond... thus if you stay away from clicking that link, you will literally have a conversation ignoring the member.

To ignore a member, click their avatar and up pops their member card. Look at the "ignore" link on it, click it...

All you will then see at the bottom of a thread page, is a small link to show ignored content... thus, you won't even see a thing otherwise:

Notice how Daniels posts disappeared in this screenshot??? All gone... na da.

 

[anthony]

I was extended a warm welcome by many when I posted my intro. Since then I sometimes get the feeling that those of us who were not in direct combat actions arn't really welcome here.

If you have served in a combat zone, thus you wear the title, veteran, then you are welcome here if diagnosed with PTSD.

Members do not dictate the rules or who and who is not allowed here. The rules are clear... if you have served in an active combat zone as a soldier, sailor or airforce, then by definition you are a veteran. Add PTSD, you meet the criteria here.

This site is not exclusive to those who have shot someone, or who have served in a specific war, or any other such nonsense. Combat is combat, it takes its toll from infantry through to storemen, Navy and Airforce personnel.

It is more common that land based soldiers will have more severe PTSD due to being face to face, hand to hand with combatants... though veteran + PTSD is equivalent. We aren't here to measure trauma severity, which is different from being a veteran with PTSD.

 

[Ned]

Once again constructive dialog only please.

Well, that got f**ked, didn't it?.
Now that we've picked up the brass from that one, you're welcome, mate, as far as this callsign's concerned.

 

[Animal1]

It is true. For example; Even the knowledge of unwarranted carnage to the civilians of the sand box can be upsetting to the degree that ones perspective on life can become shrouded with fear. That would be stress, following a trauma.
No one cares about who did what. The point is that you process through whatever reaction is happening in you and don't let it be a skate in your life that you stay tethered to. (I am kind of preaching to myself too.)

I haven't read any posts before the last couple. So I am not taking any sides here. I just wanted to puke out my thought.