Interesting! Kind of reminds me of what we do in our diaries how we process really hard shit and are like crying and dissociating and then some of us end it by shifting to gratitudes. (Not saying we are Jesus-like, just saying it reminds me of that—the pain shifting to gratitude—sometimes, for some of us, maybe as a form of distraction.)screamed out from the depths of his pain, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?", followed by a prayer of Thanksgiving.
Not sure what you mean here but it sounds interesting.as to why He delayed
Helping his friends made him get arrested by the government? Because he was like a disrupterhelping them He knew sealed his death warrant
I’ve seen people crucified, and people who “just” have spikes driven into highly enervated areas (wrists & ankles are brutal). Unless they’ve screamed so much they’ve shredded their vocal cords, and can no longer make sound? They’re screaming. And losing control of every other bodily function. If they’re so far gone they can no longer make noise? It’s tears, and snot, and puke, and piss, and shit, and cum. Ditto, even if they are screaming.I can’t remember if Jesus wept on the cross or if he was like kind of cool with it
I never heard of that and will research. ETA: the Wikipedia article said that belief in a just world is a coping strategy, that people who believe in it have happier lives and an internal locus of control. Sounds great!their concept of sin and death in the society was similar to our Just World Theory.
Did it seal his fate because it proved he was god which was blasphemy (sorry I really want to understand but I think I’m still getting it wrong? It’s just a small detail, hoping you can explain it without this being considered a derailment.)By the end (of which knowing everything He knew what was coming too) his friend (Lazarus) died and his sisters said if you had been here it wouldn't have happened. He didn't go on purpose, but raising him from the dead sealed his fate,
Wow! Fascinating!Never a distraction, fully present. In Christianity it's the human expression of God (vs spirit).
No worries!@Friday I mean, he was a god and i grew up in catholic church where he was always like father mercy love even and especially from the cross and that he was going to the cross because he loved you individually. And I was thinking about the verse in the Bible called “Jesus wept,” and I didn’t remember if it was from when he was on the cross or not and I forgot about the forsaken thing but saying “cried out” doesn’t necessarily mean crying. Plus he was a god doing it for a real reason of loving your personal heart—in one church, not catholic, that I went to they said he was thinking about saving you personally. So it’s hard to think about all that love and crying unless crying from love. My intention is not to be crass. In the Catholic Churches crucifixes he loooks a teeny sad but mostly super serene like he’s kind of proud that he’s there because saving the whole world is kind of cool and I know that I’m dumb but really, he’s not the same as a human to me. Even if he’s both human and god that’s not the same as just human getting tortured, from a religious point of view. Again, I don’t want to argue about the human god thing but the dogma is that he’s a god (i mean that he is god) so that’s what I was talking about. I know my words are jumbled so sorry. I mean, if he was crying it was because he thought god was being mean and the pain or because he loved the world because he is god. It’s not totally clear to me and I’m not saying it should be or is.
I recently learned about execution ballads, which were basically like news briefs, and apparently the more gruesome and torturous deaths were meant to bring shame to the families of the persecuted, not the individual themselves, which is why kings and royalty were *always* beheaded (versus drawn and quartered, the wheel, etc) because it was quick and painless. And Guillotin was a French human rights guy, who similar to Temple Grandin who engineered the kindest death machines for cattle, created a machine where everyone could be executed equally and not by the guy in the black hood but by a feeling-less machine. Anyway… it is relevant because lately I’ve been feeling spacey and quitefavor of more painful & gruesome public punishments