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Awful Day.

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Justmehere

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I have never done anything like what happened today. What I did and how I responded is so awful. I want my life to be over. I don't know if there is a way out. A way to fix me. It's a trauma anniversary and maybe I reenacted it.

I had a horrifically triggering interaction with a therapist today. He is not my normal therapist - I only have seen him twice in order to see a psychiatrist at the clinic is he at.

The 30 minutes I spent in his office in the session was an utter disaster. It was my 2nd appointment with him, but 4th at the clinic. The first appointment with him was all about discussing how the first person I met with and the clinic breeched my privacy. The therapist walked out with me. I told her not to. I have never had to tell a therapist not to walk out with me. I don't know why she did. My friend walked up to the building that has many offices in it. We were just going to met in front. The therapist said out on the sidewalk, I'm so glad we can help with your PTSD.

Later that day, a colleague somehow told an agency that I volunteer for that I am a client. She thought they could help me find a better clinic. The agency only helps kids...

I reported both of them to the folks that enforce privacy law in my country.

My insurance refused to cover anyone else. I'm working on appealing that. The clinic moved me to another location and assigned me to that location's manager. I told him a boundary. He ran over it.

After a terrible and brief 30 minute session today that I can't even describe, he followed me into a public lobby in front of elevators that go to a bank, and I was standing next to the doors of an orthopedic clinic, within earshot of the temp job agency next door to them, and outside of the front doors of his clinic, with lots of people - the general public - around to say to me. I'm not describing it well, but it was a very public lobby area for all the offices in the building. He walked up and said, "we can offer you an appointment in a few months with the psychiatrist."

I immediately glared at him. I ranted. I said, "This is a a public place. You are way out of line discussing mental health care of any patient outside of your office. The lovely elderly couple that just walked by did not need to know you are offering me a psychiatrist appointment."

He went on. "I am just trying to help and let you know that I'm sure the doctor can see you about your meds soon. I for know what to do about your primary care doctor being - "

"Stop." I walked back into his clinic, and he just kept talking. I figured this way he would not be talking in the lobby, but would have to follow me back into the waiting room of his office. Once there, I told him, "this is not ok. I left your office. You followed me into a public space and then trashed all privacy I thought I had."

It was not a functional conversation after that. He tried to say he was only trying to help and I refused to talk to him. I spoke to the secretary, got the doctor appointment scheduled, and for Friday no less, told the therapist that I needed him to respect no. I told him want a female staff person in the room because it's creeping me out that I said no and it means nothing to him.

I later called him to state that if he says anything other than my first name, and only my first name, outside of his private office walls, I'm leaving immediately and reporting it to the privacy enforcement office for HIPAA. He said, "well, I can agree if -"

I cut him off. "No. This is not negotiable. You can agree or disagree, my boundary is the same and I'm putting you on notice. If you choose to say anything more than just my first name to call me into a private place to talk, I am leaving instantly. You can agree with my boundary or not. You are free to make that choice. And I'm am free to leave and I will leave if you say anything more than my first name again. I want there to be an abundance of caution about my privacy or there is no reason to say anything else."

He then said something about how if want that, I needed I agree to - and I cut him off again. I'm NOT saying my actions were reasonable.

I started saying over and over, "No really means no. There can be no conversation if there is no privacy." I told him I was so triggered, this is the anniversary of horrible things.

Then I really lost it. I was hysterical. I sat down on a bench and I told him no means no and I'm never meeting with him again... I hung up. Sobbing.

In that moment, a guy walked up. He had a dog. He let his dog play with mine. I told him "please pull your dog away, my dog can't play. Please." My dog is a well marked jacketed service dog. She was her calm self until the other dog was wrestling with her. She was just playing but it wasn't the time to do that.

I stood up to try and walk away. I was trapped by the dogs. The guy said something, I didn't hear it. I begged again, please pull your dog away. I was near a wall and the bench, and there was no way to get away without moving forward towards the dog, and him. So I kept begging for him to pull the dog away. He then got big. I don't know how to describe it. He said, "just take one step forward, just do it, and I will take you out."

I wasn't sure I heard him right so I said "what?"

He repeated it.

"Are threatening to hit me or something?"

He said, "come on, just take one step forward, just one step and it will show you." He was shaking, fist raised.

I screamed. Normal response.

But the content of what I screamed wasn't normal. I screamed "you are really going to hit the disabled girl with a service dog? Really? Oh come on, just do it! Come on, just hit me! Do it!"

He frooze. I don't think either of us expected me to say THAT. All I was feeling was terrified. I was bracing for him to hit me and somehow, all I thought was why say no, I get hurt anyhow, so say yes! I kept screaming "come on hit me do it!" "I'm sick and going blind and have a sweet dog and you wanna hit me, so do it! Come on come on hit me! Do it!" I was shaking so bad when I said it, ready to duck anything that was about I come my way. I had no escape. I thought he could kill me. And that is what I screamed. On a public busy touristy downtown street in a major city.

He walked away. I called my therapist. My real trauma therapist. I couldn't even talk, I started hyperventilating so bad. So we texted until I could calm down. I told her what happened. What I did and said. She said it wasn't crazy, it was effective. He was "looking for a target, and probably wasn't expecting such a feisty one."

Crazy feisty. She said my act probably surprised him enough to break him out of his anger.

I told her I lost my mind and I should be hospitalized and run away and... she talked me down. She said it was ok. It was scary.

We scheduled an emergency session tomorrow.

I am a monster.
 
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You don't come across as a monster. You come across as someone being brave enough to stand up for your right to privacy. I'm sorry you have had such an awful day.
 
I am a monster.
No way. I think you handled yourself really, really well. Seriously. You can't see it because it was hard and emotional for you - but you had every right to put down that boundary with the doctor. And I admire how you were not willing to negotiate about your HIPPA rights. And with the guy - your therapist is right. You shocked the anger out of him. Actually making yourself a "problem" when you feel threatened in a public place is often the best course of action.

I'm so sorry you are feeling so badly. I just want to say that from the outside, you do not in the least sound like a monster. You had a really rough day with some incredibly high hurdles, and you actually made it through the course. It's great you can see your trauma therapist tomorrow. Try and keep breathing til then.
 
@Justmehere You are most certainly NOT a monster. You are a hurting and traumatized person who did a totally and completely AWESOME AND OUTSTANDING JOB standing up for yourself. Please please please do not beat yourself up for this. IMHO you handled both situations beautifully and then melted down. And THEN you melted down. That sounds pretty darn functional to me, plus no one got hurt. How, exactly does that make you a monster? I'm not seeing it at all.

Many soothing safe hugs if you want them....

I can sure see how you'd be shaking like a leaf and totally freaked out after the whole ordeal tho. Shoot, I'm a little shaky after just hearing about the thing...and it is no kind of anniversary for me...
 
@Justmehere , I'm a very gentle person & I reacted the same way last summer, on the street in the day time too- I even went after the guy when he changed his mind & started to leave, it was very hard to stop myself. Yes it followed trauma for me, but not your experiences in the office, I don't have that reason to add to it.

We are not monsters. Hurt runs deep. Hugs for you. :hug:
 
I am so angry for you right now I am shaking! Just the THOUGHT of a therapist acting like that! Just the THOUGHT of a man acting like that in public!
I am upset reading it. I am so glad you got in touch with your therapist. YOU are not a monster. The ass holes you dealt with however ARE idiotic monsters.
Be gentle with you.
 
HOLY HELL!

I can't believe a mental health practitioner would act like that! They aren't even supposed to say "HELLO" to you outside of their office! Every therapist I have ever had said it was OK for me to say something to them, but they couldn't be the one to initiate contact in public. I cannot believe the audacity of that psychiatrist....or the therapist. Bullcr@p that they were "just trying to help you". There are privacy laws for a reason, and they pretty much threw all of them out the window. Keep on reporting them as long as you have to. The reason I reported my abuser wasn't for me, but for everyone else she could have abused. Maybe that will help push you forward a bit in that you'll get a sense of gratification knowing that you helped other people avoid the same breach of privacy? I'm laughing at the fact that a psychiatrist would actually "bargain" with you over something that is LAW. There is no bargaining. Laws were set up to protect you. Chances are that since you've had privacy issues with two people at this clinic that the issue starts at the top and has permeated into the lower levels. That is, the director isn't enforcing privacy laws, so of course, nobody else is going to do it either!
 
Hi Justmehere,

Huge admiration for the way you've stood up for yourself against both a boundary pushing possible narcissist (just trying to help who? his own over inflated effing stupid ego), and against a complete dick and bully.
big hug
Will type more when I get back - very long day ahead.

You did really well.
 
All points considered; I think you handled yourself remarkably well.
The medical professional was way out of line discussing anything with you in a public lobby, and should be censured for that.
Your request to use your first name only is a reasonable request to protect your privacy, and should be honored without any caveat.
Lastly, the man with the dog was a bona fide jerk, and deserved to be yelled at, so in regards to that "you go girl".
 
Everyone else has pretty much said what I would have said. I'd say "You go girl!" to the whole deal.

I get, though, that you may not be happy about how things went. Sort through that. I had a similar (much smaller scale!) encounter with a neighbor I don't like last week. The reason I don't like him pretty much comes down to him either not getting the concept of "boundaries" or not realizing that mine count too. He came over to tell me that his "annual loud wild party" was going to be this past weekend. I yelled at him. Told him if it went as it has in the past, I was calling the sheriff.... He left mad. (Duh!) I felt like a jerk. Figured it might be good he doesn't know I have PTSD, because I'm just the "rude crazy neighbor" not the "crazy PTSD neighbor". Anyway, he actually made some visible efforts to respect my privacy this year. He's never done anything like that before. I'm perplexed. Maybe I needed to blow up at him sooner? I've spent the week thinking about this. (Didn't quite have the guts to talk to my T about it.) I still feel like I may have done the wrong thing, or done the right thing the wrong way....... I'm not sure. But I'm starting to think that I DID have the right to do SOMETHING. Your post has me wondering about my own reaction to what I did. Where it comes from and what it means.

Think this through @Justmehere ! I think what you did was fine and I'm proud of you for doing it. There's a lesson in your reaction to your reaction though, I think.
 
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