Bad experience with therapist - need opinions

Calmdown

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I need therapy since 3-4 years. It is hard to find or even get on a waiting list for a therapy where I live.
I have exactly one therapist I am waiting for to start therapy, I am waiting since a year and it still will take like 6 months. She is experienced and offers EMDR. After the first session (4 are "free" in Germany before therapy starts) she told me that I need trauma therapy.

Recently she gave me another appointment because I told her that a name triggered me two months ago.

First of all she started late, like 15 minutes. I told her about the trigger and what I went through the last 2 months (no sleep, irrational anxiety like someone certain was in my room, extreme emotions etc.), she responded with hardness instead of empathy and understanding. She focused on the anxiety alone and told me I had an anxiety disorder and depression, I don't completly disagree here but I have experience with bad depression and anxiety and the last two months were completly different from anything I experienced before except when this topic was triggered similiar but less severe in a clinic 9 years ago.
It was hard to tell her about this topic and I had to stop several times because I was crying. I also know nothing factual about it and I am questioning myself all the time. She told me that I take my emotions too serious, which is strange because no therapist ever told me that but I still try to figure out how it was meant, for example she could have wanted me to get some distance, but the way she said it was more like I am making something up and that my emotions have no real cause. She said that trauma doesn't need to be a single bad experience, I already knew that. At the end of the time she coldly talked about, just in case, that if it was about abuse it is something that can be processed and that she had patients who would process it well, like it was no big deal. Here again I wonder how she meant it, it felt invalidating but maybe she just wanted to show that it isn't the end of the world and could not word it in an empathic way.
I also noticed that she could not remember the other therapy sessions with me, which is understandable as therapy didn't start yet and the first appointments were a year ago. However this time she talked different to me, like she was taking me less serious and thought I was less intelligent than the other times. This always happens when I am down, I just should not show any weakness or people underestimate me and then a short time later I am completly clear and controlled and they overestimate how fit and well I am.

Some points that excuse her behavior: She doesn't know me and could not remember what we talked about before and I showed inner tension, anxiety and "irrational thoughts".
She could have felt overwhelmed. Maybe she is overworked and can't process difficult stuff from extra appointments.

However I am tired of having to understand professionals that don't act like how they should. I was down and I needed compassion.

I am still proud of myself that I talked about it, and made it through it and to experience that nothing bad happened because of it (9 years ago I was threatened by an inner voice to not talk about it).
 
a recurring tendency in my own decades of psychotherapy has been analyzing/judging the program/facilitators rather than working on the painful, heavily repressed issues which are wreaking havoc in my life. the folks who helped me recognize this common symptom called it, "deflection." as long as i keep the focus on external variables, i don't have to get near my own infected wounds. i've learned how to manage the symptom, but the reflex still devils my healing journey.
(9 years ago I was threatened by an inner voice to not talk about it).
in my own case, this inner voice was planted by the threats and manipulations by the participants of my child prostitution experience. the voices remain strong and demanding. what has grown is my ability to recognize and disarm the source. my psychotherapy has paid off a thousand fold in this arena. the psychotherapy tools work when i work them.
I am still proud of myself that I talked about it, and made it through it and to experience that nothing bad happened because of it
this is one of my more effective tools. taking the time to celebrate each and every victory in this arena is a positive affirmation more potent than any other i have discovered. it affirms that yes, i can. yes, i have. yes, i will again. small steps, big faith and lots of prayer.
 
This might be an issue but I still need to find out if she is the right therapist. I forgot half of the stuff writing this, to summarize it: Her professional opinion and messages are one thing and I can understand how she came to the conclusions but on the personal level it was horrible. I felt she didn't understand the situation I am in, she misjudged me, no warm words just ice cold takes, she was talking down to me, didn't take me serious like she did before when I felt better, I didn't feel welcome. She offered me another appointment in january but it was more like she felt obligated to do so and not because she wanted to have me there.

I had severe depression after this and I noticed that the aggression against myself spiraled out and got dangerous, then I realized I am furious at her and not at myself. If I have these dangerous feelings I guess she is not the right therapist. I just think about if I should try to talk about these issues in january with her or even cancel it completly.
I really have no clue how I should find a therapist and even a therapist without a long waiting time.
 
This might be an issue but I still need to find out if she is the right therapist.
I felt she didn't understand the situation I am in, she misjudged me, no warm words just ice cold takes, she was talking down to me, didn't take me serious like she did before when I felt better, I didn't feel welcome.

These two don't match.
 
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For me, everything is a catastrophe and my emotions are way too strong. I have to constantly remind myself of this when I find myself in difficult situations with others. I pause before responding and double check what I am saying before saying it. I often tell the person I am talking too about the difficulty I am having. Surprisingly, most take it positively as if they are being let in on a secret.

When it comes to therapists I have used who was available even if the fit wasn’t that good. There is no reason why you can’t work with one while trying to find another. There may be payment issues where you are. But for us therapy is more important than owning a car or other “necessities” of modern life.
 
I need therapy since 3-4 years. It is hard to find or even get on a waiting list for a therapy where I live.
I have exactly one therapist I am waiting for to start therapy, I am waiting since a year and it still will take like 6 months. She is experienced and offers EMDR. After the first session (4 are "free" in Germany before therapy starts) she told me that I need trauma therapy.

Recently she gave me another appointment because I told her that a name triggered me two months ago.

First of all she started late, like 15 minutes. I told her about the trigger and what I went through the last 2 months (no sleep, irrational anxiety like someone certain was in my room, extreme emotions etc.), she responded with hardness instead of empathy and understanding. She focused on the anxiety alone and told me I had an anxiety disorder and depression, I don't completly disagree here but I have experience with bad depression and anxiety and the last two months were completly different from anything I experienced before except when this topic was triggered similiar but less severe in a clinic 9 years ago.
It was hard to tell her about this topic and I had to stop several times because I was crying. I also know nothing factual about it and I am questioning myself all the time. She told me that I take my emotions too serious, which is strange because no therapist ever told me that but I still try to figure out how it was meant, for example she could have wanted me to get some distance, but the way she said it was more like I am making something up and that my emotions have no real cause. She said that trauma doesn't need to be a single bad experience, I already knew that. At the end of the time she coldly talked about, just in case, that if it was about abuse it is something that can be processed and that she had patients who would process it well, like it was no big deal. Here again I wonder how she meant it, it felt invalidating but maybe she just wanted to show that it isn't the end of the world and could not word it in an empathic way.
I also noticed that she could not remember the other therapy sessions with me, which is understandable as therapy didn't start yet and the first appointments were a year ago. However this time she talked different to me, like she was taking me less serious and thought I was less intelligent than the other times. This always happens when I am down, I just should not show any weakness or people underestimate me and then a short time later I am completly clear and controlled and they overestimate how fit and well I am.

Some points that excuse her behavior: She doesn't know me and could not remember what we talked about before and I showed inner tension, anxiety and "irrational thoughts".
She could have felt overwhelmed. Maybe she is overworked and can't process difficult stuff from extra appointments.

However I am tired of having to understand professionals that don't act like how they should. I was down and I needed compassion.

I am still proud of myself that I talked about it, and made it through it and to experience that nothing bad happened because of it (9 years ago I was threatened by an inner voice to not talk about it).
There's no excuse for this behavior. This is not a "therapist", it's someone with a personality disorder who has some sort of academic credential. You're better off with no one. And, by the way, EMDR is potentially dangerous for someone with serious complex PTSD. No one can determine whether or not you're a candidate for EMDR without having spent some hours with you in a therapeutic setting. Don't do it. No matter how difficult it is, you need to shop around until you find a therapist with actual credentials who is someone you're comfortable with and who does not make you feel worse than you already do. Emotions don't have to make sense, they're emotions, and no one - especially someone who's supposed to be an expert in trauma - should be telling you that your emotions are not valid. They are. Get away from her, fast.
 
I need therapy since 3-4 years. It is hard to find or even get on a waiting list for a therapy where I live.
I have exactly one therapist I am waiting for to start therapy, I am waiting since a year and it still will take like 6 months. She is experienced and offers EMDR. After the first session (4 are "free" in Germany before therapy starts) she told me that I need trauma therapy.

Recently she gave me another appointment because I told her that a name triggered me two months ago.

First of all she started late, like 15 minutes. I told her about the trigger and what I went through the last 2 months (no sleep, irrational anxiety like someone certain was in my room, extreme emotions etc.), she responded with hardness instead of empathy and understanding. She focused on the anxiety alone and told me I had an anxiety disorder and depression, I don't completly disagree here but I have experience with bad depression and anxiety and the last two months were completly different from anything I experienced before except when this topic was triggered similiar but less severe in a clinic 9 years ago.
It was hard to tell her about this topic and I had to stop several times because I was crying. I also know nothing factual about it and I am questioning myself all the time. She told me that I take my emotions too serious, which is strange because no therapist ever told me that but I still try to figure out how it was meant, for example she could have wanted me to get some distance, but the way she said it was more like I am making something up and that my emotions have no real cause. She said that trauma doesn't need to be a single bad experience, I already knew that. At the end of the time she coldly talked about, just in case, that if it was about abuse it is something that can be processed and that she had patients who would process it well, like it was no big deal. Here again I wonder how she meant it, it felt invalidating but maybe she just wanted to show that it isn't the end of the world and could not word it in an empathic way.
I also noticed that she could not remember the other therapy sessions with me, which is understandable as therapy didn't start yet and the first appointments were a year ago. However this time she talked different to me, like she was taking me less serious and thought I was less intelligent than the other times. This always happens when I am down, I just should not show any weakness or people underestimate me and then a short time later I am completly clear and controlled and they overestimate how fit and well I am.

Some points that excuse her behavior: She doesn't know me and could not remember what we talked about before and I showed inner tension, anxiety and "irrational thoughts".
She could have felt overwhelmed. Maybe she is overworked and can't process difficult stuff from extra appointments.

However I am tired of having to understand professionals that don't act like how they should. I was down and I needed compassion.

I am still proud of myself that I talked about it, and made it through it and to experience that nothing bad happened because of it (9 years ago I was threatened by an inner voice to not talk .

I would find an alternate therapist, unless there was a practical element off the back of such words choice by them, meaning a workable solution, and miraculous revelation that with a different mindset they were right.

Why did you choose/ wait for this one particular? My guess is they are renowned. In any case you deserve to feel like you get the best out of your sessions, and as it goes, your ability to relate and discuss freely is important for your progress.

I don't think what's been said was extreme, but potentially a casual choice of word use. I mean you're going to pay attention to emotions when they're beyond your control, hence arriving at therapy. Have they presented with strategies for not ? Or are you only interested in EMDR ? I'm a firm believever of cbt. I also need a trauma focused counselling therapist by the way.

Good luck in any case and I hope this clears up for you
 
I 've never properly got over the inappropriate things said and done during my experience 'psychotherapy' with <name removed>. '88 I was recommended to see her. Biggest mistake of my life. Already coping with monumental losses. grief stricken over my grandmother's sudden death, loss of two sons leaving home. Coping with severe withdrawal from highly inappropriate repeat prescription cocktails of Valium, Dalmane & Motival that 4yrs earlier the BNF warned "NOT" suitable prescribing it in this form; two ingredients requiring total opposite prescribing regimes! Nortriptyline & Fluphenazine. On top of Valium 5 and Dalmane at Night!

I'd lost my grandmother whose home I struggled throughout childhood to get back to. <name removed> unrealistically assured her therapy would only take 6 months! Attempts to talk about my grandmother was swiftly shut down. After 22 years of coercive control and violence; no chance to recover abdominal surgery; within less than a month of starting therapy I was invited to see <name removed> sing with her band in Colchester's Oliver Twist pub. Blurring boundaries & successfully sabotaging.

Eventually a counselling course demonstrated <name removed> lack of training and inappropriate behaviour. A psychologist informed her I needed Person Centered not her directive style. She could be extraordinarily manipulative. I didn't need to hear about her past relationships <name removed>. Or daughters <name removed>! Nor did I need the invite to lunch with the pair while directed to avoid meeting my sons! <name removed> never achieved UKCP nor BACP. She'd failed to undergo personal therapy and had no supervision. There was no contract drawn up at the start. I was paying her £25 pw to hear her stuff unable to offload my own trauma. Clearly she was lonely I let her see so me of my poetry one describing my dreaming the scars sustained in childhood; I'd wake and find them gone. She took it literally. At the end over the phone abruptly said " And it's no good you sitting there dreaming your scars will be gone; because they WON'T!" Having coped with them for forty years she failed to credit me with enough intelligence to know that!! Having cried down the phone after further harassment from ex in-laws; her partner <name removed> coldly told me "You're just not trying to help yourself!" He'd no right to judge my performance nor any right to know anything about me.

An ex heroin user confirmed what I'd got off was worse than what he got off; withdrawal lasting, no days, weeks or months but years. 35 days for every year you're on. 15 in my case; at the time I really thought I was dying. I'd kicked out the spouse. I'd encouraged my sons to be independent not clung when I so desperately needed looking after I had collapsed on the floor at the end. And having overheard a blow through the party wall and the toddler sobbing I rang Social Services. The man of the house was newly promoted CID, one ex in-law being high up in Police Transport. Of course my report was twisted suggesting I'd called it 'Sexual abuse' but as I said to the Supt of Police welfare ' Not sure how one deduces sexual abuse through a party wall!! comments over the phone merely exacerbated my pain and distress
 
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Thanks for the answers. It is really hard for me because I am usually too understanding and my needs come second. I am still not 100% sure but most probably I will not go to that therapist again. She talked about that I need trauma therapy, a stationary trauma therapy etc. but for the most difficult topic she invalidated everything I said about it and was not a bit empathetic. For trauma therapy therapists need to consider that they are not always talking to adults and that makes it very important to be careful with what and how they say something. I just don't think I could feel safe with her.

I try to find another therapist but where I live it is nearly impossible to find a good or even trauma therapists.
I don't know why therapists don't even meet the lowest standards here, I talked to unempathetic therapists that don't accept boundaries and ask for details on the first god damn phone call and act pissed when I can't say anything about it, do they even think at all?
There is a clinic farther away that could fit but I have no trauma related diagnosis and they said they need one for health insurance payment.
 

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