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We all get that....that is why you'll miss the camaraderie which is why group therapy is a good long-term deal and/or getting involved with a vets group. Group outings. Bike rides, retreats, events, etc. One thing WWP does well
Sleeping Dragon
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Florian,
No warriors ever returned to a more foreign, more alien world than those of us who served in Vietnam. We are still adjusting to a world where we don't fit, and will continue that adjustment for the rest of our lives.
But, on October 7th, 1967 it was time for me to move on no mater how difficult that move would be. In the years sinse I've found great joy along with great pain. I'm still the same warrior as the young man you see leaning on that Jeep tire. That will never change.
But, I'm also a husband, father and grandfather. I built two successful careers, sailed stormy seas and climbed mountains. I take great pride in the fact that I made something out of the shit-for-nothing world I found when I returned.
My point is simply this my Brother. It's time for you to move on. That "hero" you mentioned who dies in combat didn't have to go through the pain, but he also missed the joy that life still had to offer.
Move on my Brother and find your joy.
SD
No warriors ever returned to a more foreign, more alien world than those of us who served in Vietnam. We are still adjusting to a world where we don't fit, and will continue that adjustment for the rest of our lives.
But, on October 7th, 1967 it was time for me to move on no mater how difficult that move would be. In the years sinse I've found great joy along with great pain. I'm still the same warrior as the young man you see leaning on that Jeep tire. That will never change.
But, I'm also a husband, father and grandfather. I built two successful careers, sailed stormy seas and climbed mountains. I take great pride in the fact that I made something out of the shit-for-nothing world I found when I returned.
My point is simply this my Brother. It's time for you to move on. That "hero" you mentioned who dies in combat didn't have to go through the pain, but he also missed the joy that life still had to offer.
Move on my Brother and find your joy.
SD
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SD, I could never compare my struggles to the Cold War era vets. I don't know why I am like I am. The honest truth is I had no issues when I was there, it wasn't until I got back that shit stopped making sense. I would've put on a flak and kevlar for 20 years if they would've let me, and never rotated back stateside. I don't know when the disconnect happened. I guess as long as I was working I was fine. When they took that from me (because of my back injury) things just started falling apart. Losing my job was like an alcoholic hitting rock bottom I guess. I was a "functioning alcoholic" until this happened. The anger and rage that came out of me is something I didn't even know I was carrying around with me. While I was functioning I kept it contained, but when there was nothing left it just came out. I hope I didn't come across as self pitying. I could never in a million years compare myself to an era of Cold War Americans. I'm sorry.
Maybe I look back and laugh on this. It's just not funny to me right now.
Maybe I look back and laugh on this. It's just not funny to me right now.
Sleeping Dragon
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My Brother,
PLEASE compare youself to cold war vets. WWII vets, Roman Leageonars, and every other warrior who ever covered a follow warrior's back.
My point was (and I guess I made it poorly) that you and I and Spock and Wagon and Ba and..............face the same Demons, Dragons, monsters and whatever else you choose to call them. The fact that you got a better home coming doesn't made a damned bit of difference when dealing with post traumatic stress.
My point is simple. We found a better way. So can you. The military may be a bad fit for you now. Maybe later it won't be. BUT, THAT IS NOT YOUR TOP PRIORITY AT THIS POINT IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me take a line from a movie. "With every man I kill I get farther from home". You have a long road back, the exact same road we're all traveling. If the military slows your progress down that road leave it behind. YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE EXTRA LOAD RIGHT NOW.
One more thing. There's no reason to feel sorry. We've all been where you are right now.
SD
PLEASE compare youself to cold war vets. WWII vets, Roman Leageonars, and every other warrior who ever covered a follow warrior's back.
My point was (and I guess I made it poorly) that you and I and Spock and Wagon and Ba and..............face the same Demons, Dragons, monsters and whatever else you choose to call them. The fact that you got a better home coming doesn't made a damned bit of difference when dealing with post traumatic stress.
My point is simple. We found a better way. So can you. The military may be a bad fit for you now. Maybe later it won't be. BUT, THAT IS NOT YOUR TOP PRIORITY AT THIS POINT IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me take a line from a movie. "With every man I kill I get farther from home". You have a long road back, the exact same road we're all traveling. If the military slows your progress down that road leave it behind. YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE EXTRA LOAD RIGHT NOW.
One more thing. There's no reason to feel sorry. We've all been where you are right now.
SD
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I am new to this site, Vietnam 67, 68, 69. 65. I am finally forced to get help or PTSD, sleep deprivation worsened and go me here. Is there any Vietnam Veterans than cn tell me if there is a forum for us? Or is this the place? I am starting what my therapist calls prolonged exposure therapy. Has any one had experience with this? I am taking Trazodone to sleep and Citalopram for anxiety. Embarrassing n therapy, sometimes breakdown and cry, other times unable to. Anxtious. Pissed, worried. any words of wisdom?
I am new to this site, Vietnam 67, 68, 69. 65. I am finally forced to get help or PTSD, sleep deprivation worsened and go me here. Is there any Vietnam Veterans than cn tell me if there is a forum for us? Or is this the place? I am starting what my therapist calls prolonged exposure therapy. Has any one had experience with this? I am taking Trazodone to sleep and Citalopram for anxiety. Embarrassing n therapy, sometimes breakdown and cry, other times unable to. Anxtious. Pissed, worried. any words of wisdom?
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SemperFi,
I am new to this forum, and a Mid-East vet., but you will notice a few posts up, there is a man named "Sleeping Dragon". You should PM him. He is a Vietnam Vet. He is very active on this site, and has been most helpful to me. I'm sure he wouldn't mind talking to you.
They've got me on the same script. Celexa and Trazadone. The Trazadone they gave me for my "rage" episodes. I've been bad, sometimes even with my family, but especially when behind the wheel. It's a little to early in the game for me to tell you if the meds will help.
As far as sleep. I feel like I've become an expert in sleep paralysis. I've been having really bad episodes since this all hit me. The new meds have helped me sleep me sleep the couple of days.
I am new to this forum, and a Mid-East vet., but you will notice a few posts up, there is a man named "Sleeping Dragon". You should PM him. He is a Vietnam Vet. He is very active on this site, and has been most helpful to me. I'm sure he wouldn't mind talking to you.
They've got me on the same script. Celexa and Trazadone. The Trazadone they gave me for my "rage" episodes. I've been bad, sometimes even with my family, but especially when behind the wheel. It's a little to early in the game for me to tell you if the meds will help.
As far as sleep. I feel like I've become an expert in sleep paralysis. I've been having really bad episodes since this all hit me. The new meds have helped me sleep me sleep the couple of days.
Sleeping Dragon
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SemperFi,
Welcome Marine. Some of the more senior (in time on this site) members may be bye to ask a few questions, and request that you post something in the introduction section. If they do please understand that they're just being careful to ensure that this stays a Vets. only site.
This bunch is made up of combat Vets. from many wars and many nations. There are plenty of Nam Vets., and yes, I'm one of them. I was attached to Fox Co. 2/5, 1st Div, in 67.
This thread that Florian started is a good place to see who we are, and what we do. There are lots of others on everything including meds., relationships, anger, the VA, Vet Centers, recommended reading material, videos, professional help and.................... So pull up a chair and join in.
SD
Welcome Marine. Some of the more senior (in time on this site) members may be bye to ask a few questions, and request that you post something in the introduction section. If they do please understand that they're just being careful to ensure that this stays a Vets. only site.
This bunch is made up of combat Vets. from many wars and many nations. There are plenty of Nam Vets., and yes, I'm one of them. I was attached to Fox Co. 2/5, 1st Div, in 67.
This thread that Florian started is a good place to see who we are, and what we do. There are lots of others on everything including meds., relationships, anger, the VA, Vet Centers, recommended reading material, videos, professional help and.................... So pull up a chair and join in.
SD
You're in the right place SemperFi, many Nam vets...please start with an Intro using the "post New Thread" button top right. You can read the Intros to get the gist. Here's the link to the Introduction Section:
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Raven
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About the road rage...
They're a little pricy and I'm not entirely sure on their legality, but get a train horn set with an air compressor.
It will scare other drivers into submission most of the time.
They're a little pricy and I'm not entirely sure on their legality, but get a train horn set with an air compressor.
It will scare other drivers into submission most of the time.
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