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Relationship Combat And All Ptsd Carers: How Does This Impact Your Faith?

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"Since he is a jealous God. Anything else in which we spend too much time on and too much focus on that takes away from your time with him.. He WILL take it away from you. "

This is unnecessary and frightening to sufferers. Many abusers spend all their time abusing, fondling, destroying suffers and yet god never seemed to take away their cars, boats, or even things they don't need like big screen TVs

You can love Jesus all you want, but don't spread illogical and unproven theologies that hurt people.

I am usually very tolerant on here, but this hits the limit.
 
I dont mean to offend you Okradlak. I was mainly implying people obessing over other individuals such as our partners, they are human just like us we shouldnt worship no other individual as they are not God. Often time when that happens we do end up breaking up with those people. Focus on God and he will take care of all your heart desires. Dont focus on that fancy house, that fancy car, that fancy male or female. This is my faith, this is what I believe. Your faith and beliefs is your own.
 
What you said is that god will take away what you value over him. That is abuse.That is exactly what an evil parent says to a child

Do you think a sufferer wants to hear that?

Sufferers who have been abused by priests put a whole darn lot above god. And the priests who have done so are no worse off than those who a devoted to god. Your theory does not hold up and it's offensive. Sure you are entitled to it. I am well aware of that.

But I am pointing out to you that it is offensive and illogical. I hope to god that you never have to have that ridiculous piece of theology tested in your own life.

So I am done with this conversation so do yourself a favour and don't respond.
 
It's funny, I had to look at the date when I started this thread, because at this moment I swore it was months ago - it feels like 5 or 6 months, not just 2 weeks.

I'm not sure what my sign is in all this to be honest, not sure that I even really did or didn't get one. What I do know is I move forward. Each day I dwell less and less on the things of the past. I used to plan out each thing I'd say if given the chance, now it doesn't much matter. Personally I believe now I've been spared. Certain things I had put together lead me to believe he is most likely a raging alcoholic. Many signs point to it, and explains particular times and situations. I don't judge him because it's a symptom that these guys returning back deal with.

I believe I was spared because he wasn't truthful with me about it when he should have been. There are quite a few things I saw past - which began as lies and then I got a "I have to be honest here", and then I'd get the truth. I'm not sure which that falls under - more of a liar or someone trying to be honest. Either way, at this point I'd never trust him, and what's a relationship if you don't have trust? Nothing.

Why does he keep my stuff? Because I do believe he thinks he still has a chance when he straightens out and sobers up. I think he can't let go of the fact that, no matter HOW drunk you are, he knows full well he f*cked up. Absolutely I do. If he didn't drink before, he should be even more heavily by now because he has ruined everything and only has himself to blame, and I believe that he holds onto my things to have a last shot when he has his shit together enough. I do firmly believe that God will give/is giving him such painful guilt it will destroy what's left of him because armyguy knew how decent I was compared to his exwife. That's his cross to bear, not mine. I know I still get tweeks inside me when I reflect on how I have wronged someone in the past - there's really no amount of time which takes that feeling away from you, when you think on it you feel so badly. That's a good thing actually, so that it prevents you from acting that way towards another person ever again.

If you rely on the word, you know you are to forgive. I've chosen that. I can't hold on to anger, why should I punish myself for having done nothing wrong? No thanks. But forgiveness doesn't mean I'd erase all this.

Actually, as I type this out, I can say I wouldn't give him another chance. Why? Because I've seen the real him in all this. I see why his wife cheated, see why a gf before me left. This is the person they had to deal with from past deployments. At the time I never knew about all this ptsd stuff, I naively excused it, and it's why I always say that we are a product of the choices we make. You speed? Don't be surprised when you get a ticket. You push away someone or avoid them? Don't be surprised when you don't get another chance - not all the "baby's" or "I love you's" in the world will help you. He once again chose booze when he came home I believe, he chose liquor instead of me. So fine then. It's HIS liver, not mine.

I ask God often "Why did I get so effed in all this????". Well, I can only think that since I love our military so much, it gave me the opportunity to see what many don't deal with or even think about for our returning men and women. Had I not been given this to deal with, I'd be like so many who say they support the troops, yet are completely clueless as to the trauma to those families. That's what I walk away with - a different and MUCH better appriciation. That's my lemonade I chose to make.

The last guy I was with I begged God for another chance - begged in a way I've never once done in this situation if I'm honest. But with time I have thanked God over and over that I didn't get that second chance because I'd be miserable and unloved by that man. In this case, I think I'm supposed to be greatful with not having to compete with an exwife who sounded like a real treat, and 3 step kids. It could be still in my future, but from some other man - one who didn't treat me this way. We get things handed to us which we feel we haven't deserved, but it's what we choose to do moving forward that makes the difference.

That goes to you gms1976. You have some terrible stories, but you still keep going. Many will read your post and say "Well if she keeps going, so can I". You haven't given up and though you might not think it, there's a hell of a lot to be said in it. A hell of a lot.
 
"Since he is a jealous God. Anything else in which we spend too much time on and too much focus on that takes away from your time with him.. He WILL take it away from you. "

This is unnecessary and frightening to sufferers. Many abusers spend all their time abusing, fondling, destroying suffers and yet god never seemed to take away their cars, boats, or even things they don't need like big screen TVs

You can love Jesus all you want, but don't spread illogical and unproven theologies that hurt people.

I am usually very tolerant on here, but this hits the limit.

OKRADLAK,

It's similar to when a sufferer says to another sufferer that they have feelings of avoidance towards people - both people just "get it".

I can only say on Pretty's behalf that I completely understood what she meant. It wasn't taking away of material things - boats, houses, it's taking away feelings you have on the inside - i.e. bitterness, hate, lonliness. When you happen to be of Christian faith, even though we have times we still doubt, we understand it when other Christians say things like that.
 
So by that thinking a couple in a 20 yrs faithful on both sides marriage where one partner is in isolation is now deemed by "your god" to be the wrong relationship and the isolated partner should move on..

Which sacred text supports that???

I openly admit to not following any organised religion but welcome any argument from those that do,what realy pees me off is the self induced ramblings of those that like to interpret thier faith as they see fit.

Crikey it's like me saying that you should all run for the hills as the tree elfs said to......
 
Nope. Just the opposite wife of. The word says that "what God joined let no man separate". It's definately encouraged to remain together in times of thick and thin, good and bad. Had I been married to my sufferer, I would have remained with him no matter what it cost me.

My statement was basically to say that if you aren't living it, it's tough to understand what exactly is felt and said. ie: If you're not a ptsd sufferer, people on the outside don't fully understand, just as those who aren't carers don't understand what a person goes through.

As for my faith, I've had said the Lord's name in vain numerous times and in numerous ways, for that I will be punished. Why? Because the word says I will be. I've had sex outside of marriage. Have I been punished? Absolutely because those times have haunted me more times than I care to admit - had I abstained as the word says I'd have had no problems in regards to that. But for me to handle each day regardless of what comes into it, I ask for the help of my God. It helps me get through, even though I still question and doubt, but I push through it. I don't ever tell anyone what to believe or not to believe, that's foolish, I can only offer what helps me not to go insane in this disturbed and messed up world.
 
Army---god won't punish you. He didn't punish priests who have sex with little children. He won't punish you. You can rest and not worry over that one.

Besides, the sufferer who the priest had sex with uses the name of the lord in vain a millions times more than the abuser. It is clear that sufferers have more"sin" than abusers, so it makes no sense that god would punish people. It's all unbalanced and seemed like a fair thing till you explore deeper.
 
OKRADLAK -

I know it's easy to say "we will all get our day for what we've done". Many scoff at it, believing that those sick priests and others won't get their day of reckoning - they all will get away scott free in the end.

For all the books people try to write on an afterlife - whether there is or isn't one, we don't have any clue. None. We have no idea what happens when we close our eyes the final time. Some say nothing, which may help those who believe to feel ok on not believing, and some say everything, for those who believe to keep on believing even when they don't feel like it any longer. But no one knows.

All I can say is that at the end of the day, if it helps me stay relatively sane, I choose to believe that punishment is ahead. The mental and emotional benefits I get from it I can not explain, but those who also believe totally get what I say and how I feel, which is similar to sufferers who can not explain why they do the certain things they do in the world of PTSD except to other sufferers.

Supposedly God loves it when you question Him and have issues, because as a result it forces you to dig deeper into Him. Now, I don't know if that's true or not. He could hate it. I won't find out until I leave this life. But I guess I'd rather question and try and have it be wasted, than not try at all and push it away, thereby not get the mental and emotional benefits that I get daily or weekly. I never would ever push God/Jesus/ or religion down someones throat. Instead, I say that I've lived life w/o Him and was a miserable wreck with nothing but extreme anger and hate - but since I've made the decision to read the word and to at least try to live a Christian life, I'm happy on days when I have nothing to be happy about - which keeps me from having to take "Happy Pills" like others in my family.
 
My post was totally taken the wrong way. Thank you Army Brat for understanding. I wasnt raised Catholic and I'm not 100 sure how it works. But I do know preist or no preist ,any sexual abuse towards a child is wrong! Whether that preist is punished here on earth, eventually he will be punished on judgment day. As for marriage, obviously if you are in a union that you are in the convenant of the Lord so therefore loving your husband does not apply .

Like Army Bratt said you will not get it if we are not of the same faith. And just and FYI OKRAD I have been a victim of sexual abuse as a child by more than one person. So dont just assume I havent expeierence any trauma in my life. Thankfully, I dont have PTSD atleast I dont thinks so. I have never seen a therapist to tell me I suffer from anything. Perhaps I should. All I know is that in the religion i was raised in is that we are tought to forgive those who has done harm to us so that our sins may be forgiven. I forgave my uncle and my fathers friend. I'm not saying that you should. All I know it helped me to move on. What works for me may not work for everyone else.

Back on topic. When I said when you worship someting more than god in the faith I was raised in it was taught over and over to " Put God first". that is all. Inetepret that however you want. And those preist who did those horrible things to young children they will be punished. one of the men who abused my got hit by a car and died 6yrs ago and I'm sure he faced his punishment. That is all I have to say and I will decide when I WONT RESPOND! thank you and good bye.
 
I don;'t want to fight with you, Pretty. It's been a hard day and I did not understand what you were saying.

I am sorry if I offended you. Sometimes posts are hard to understand. :(
 
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I think people were getting offended when there's absolutely no offense meant towards anyone or anything... moving on....
 
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