Darkness

[Senecia]

I want to add something that I learned from my psychology professor in regard to dark thoughts...He talked about them briefly, but it stuck with me. Everyone has those crazy thoughts that pop into your head, whether that be something really gross, or really violent. It's not bad, it's just part of being human. It's totally normal. It's when they become repetitive and intrusive that they can be a problem.

Another thing, the violent thoughts of killing whoever did what to us, I feel are normal...just our instilled morals take that back a notch. It's where we step into Freud land; we are constantly battling our primal urges to abide by our taught moral laws. If we were much less advanced, perhaps still nomadic, it's possible we'd just kill each other for revenge. The urges were acted upon, but not today nearly as often.

I'm not justifying killing people (I think it's awful), but the urge is so understandable. I hope no one feels alienated by their dark side.

In regards to MDMA, there have been studies in very tightly controlled settings. It's been shown to help sufferers of PTSD walk through catharsis without the fight or flight response, and lessen the degree of fear experienced when sober. Not to be tried at home!

PS Thanks for the comments and whatnot about my art. Means a lot. :)

 

[Recovery4Me]

. If we were much less advanced, perhaps still nomadic, it's possible we'd just kill each other for revenge

I beg to differ. The Grassland nationalities -such as The Shaman, The Mongolian, some Plains Native American Tribes, Rainforest semi-nomadic such as the Huaorani of Ecuador plus that of current Gypsies which roam still world over are considered but some of the nomadic tribes. They are not considered less advanced based their conflict resolution choices but considered very advanced within their social morphology and comprehension of spiritual and cultural life.;)

 

[Deleted member 1860]

True darkness is a pervasive evilness that is completely blind.

I think that what most people are talking about is the negative side of normal human behavior.

 

[Ronin]

Plus that of current Gypsies which roam still world over are considered but some of the nomadic tribes. They are not considered less advanced based their conflict resolution choices but considered very advanced within their social morphology and comprehension of spiritual and cultural life.;)

Roma/Romani people if anything, please. Plus forced travel born out of homelessness, practically not having a state to call own home, being rejected as the outsiders and outcast and penalized wherever they go, isn't the best example for 'nomadic' I don't think.

I'm not here for the cookie because this IS part of my 'dark side'. Let's talk everyone and everything but me, guilt bites less. And if it's possible to candy wrap it in some entirely off topic joke and hide before it seems real, I'm happier.

 

[Recovery4Me]

@kai ....duly noted and respected. However some our towns current Gypsies (as this group wishes to be called) get mad if we refer to Romania.:shy: And believe it or not they consider themselves nomadic and mostly Spanish roots. So I was trying to avoid source of origin. :clown:

Actually, my Dad was from the Sioux Nation and we were considered nomadic until we 'had' to stay put. So history aside Nomadic people are cool with the normal amount of dark side like everyone else...lol!

 

[Ronin]

Excuse me for the brief off topic please - Because that Romani doesn't have anything to do with Romania the country, their ancestral home is India and home which ever country they're from respectively. ;) And I'm aware of many Romani people being travelers & links of many groups with say Irish travelers culture, what I was trying to point out associating Romani people as a whole with wandering is one of tropes on a large scale hurting the peoples in question, something to be treaded on sensitively if possible. ;)

 

[Recovery4Me]

So in reference to your post #33 Well that is a horse of a darker color! :hug: Thanks for another valid point and offering wandering folks need love too. We are cool right...no dark side.


Fun pix for darkside

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[Tanishq]

When I was kid, I chose to go dark side twice. I didn't know how to choose light those days. So out of desperation, to save myself I chose to go dark ways. Guess what, I ended up regretting. After some months of that, I was given chance to choose light, I capitalized the opportunity.

After this I realized, choosing darkness is not my forte. I didn't harm anyone in this though. It was just me.

Thank you for cookies @WildMermaid :)

 

[WildMermaid]

Thank you to the mods for moving the thread. Also sorry about quoting entire posts, hands hurt to bad to pick and choose sections, but i did not mean disrespect.

Today reading Joker, V for Vendetta, and From Hell - all are fairly graphic and if easily disturbed please avoid. I wrote until my joints gave out last night, but did not get any sketches done. Trying to figure out how to balance the light and the dark right now. Feel like Persephone lol.

Do you feel better when you have a creative outlet for your dark side? Or do you feel worse?
Oh and you're welcome for the cookies ;) @Tanishq :hug: love the Grumpy Vader @Recovery4Me

 

[braggle]

I feel so much worse at the point of creating something when its stuck in my head and it won't stop going around and around. Its psychically and emotionally painfull. But I guess all of that would be there in a different form anyway.
When I've finished though, its so cathartic, I can look at a visual representation of that pain that's no longer inside of me and I got the chance to turn all that negative energy into something beutiful.

 

[jaccat]

Much better. Writing has been my therapy for so long. I think I embrace that 'darkness' in my work, I seek it out because it feels genuine and I'm not scared of it any more. Sometimes I dissociate when I write and find things later I've no memory of. They freak me out because they tend to be so much more raw than the stuff I'm conscious of, but once I've taken it in its a release of sorts.

I wanted to include gallows humour as a connection to darkness too. Seriously some of the things I find funny are downright disturbing to most people.:roflmao:

 

[Recovery4Me]

I believe that there are many balances within life. My hypervigilance has not always been in check but has assisted in preventing further trauma in some scuffles of assault and has protected my son from an sexual assault as a child. My flashback "no you won't moments" saved the life of a security guard held at gunpoint as I jumped over a countertop to fend off the armed robber. I have stopped a gang rape of a young girl by charging like a crazy bull, screaming in the zone of PTSD trigger. Yes, there is quite the violent list.

No...I do not encourage this type of behavior:cautious: as common sense is seriously better. However...it is my darkside foaming killer instinct none-the-less: it was revenge for every belt that laid me down and a sheer determination to stop it from happening to another. When I go to that place...I do not even know I exist, I only know I must stop the injury to the innocent...but in that moment, I am also hurting the perpetrator and it takes everything that I have to rein myself back in from the final blow. This is my part of my darkside...I have tried to make peace that I have stopped each time after the mission was accomplished but it is a scary place.