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Distorted Thinking

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I think that black and white thinking is a kind of distorted thinking and right now it is my worse enemy. I can't see things getting better in the near future so I feel like it never will so why bother trying.

I know that I have made some great gains in my healing in the past 2 years but since I started my healing journey well over 10 years ago I wonder if it will ever end.

I've also had some triggers lately that have sent me back to the place where I think that everything is my fault and I am good for nothing. My head sometimes jumps in and tries to counter act the distorted messages but it seems that the messages are winning all the time. I want to hide or sleep to get away from all the messages running around in my head.
 
When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us. (Helen Keller)

I found that keeping a journal helps. When I step back and look at what I have written, sometimes I can see the distorted thinking of my past. Then I can make the necessary correction.

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Gosh. I was intending to answer this ages ago Nikakaa. Just did not get there. Will say what I was going to and add to it.

I actually think you should give yourself a pat on the back. I think distortions of the type you describe
telling myself
m good for nothing.
are some of the hardest to shake. Especially in the moment. They have been for me anyway. They hang in there very tenaciously and absolutely arrive when I am triggered with something.

It sounds like you did stop and check in with your cognitive mind with the incident with your h and that that did start the process of getting you out of that mind space or at least understanding what was happening.

It seems you find practical suggestions helpful so I shall try to share what I do.
Initially I checked in with myself throughout the day regularly. I would ask myself how I was feeling. That was very hard at that point. I had no connection to my emotions and would mostly just end up in a terrible state in the evening with no words for it and no understanding where it had come from.

Every evening I would journal about my day. Looking for awareness about events that happened and looking for emotions felt.

Later I was more able to identify an emotion or a state.

These days I stop if I am feeling anything intense. I try to name it. I let myself fully acknowledge what it is. I try to accept it. I then try to think what it is coming from in the present. Followed by considering if it is actually more about the past. I try not to add to it by judging it and myself.

In a similar situation to what you describe I would ask myself what word or look in the present set off these feelings. I would then think if these thoughts were likely coming from me rather than the other person.

An important part of the process for me is letting myself have full awareness of what is happening and working on acceptance of that as my long term pattern is to get more into a state as I become more aware of how faulty I am and then turn that into more self hatred and judgement.

I have found the DBT concept of radical acceptance very helpful.

I have also found I can do a lot without truly believing or believing that something can change.

For example: I hated myself so much that all I could think of was that I shouldn't live. I couldn't think or believe that I deserved to make my life better. Not that I ever told anyone of course but that is how I felt. Not that I don't feel like that these days but I don't feel it all the time and overpoweringly like I did then.

But what happens to me has an impact on others and I used that instead. And I just put one foot in front of the other. I knew what I "should" be doing so I did it. If I had waited until I could love myself enough to want something better and get past all the distorted self beliefs I had before I did anything then I don't believe there is any way I would be here today.

I hope that doesn't seem off the point. I just meant to say we can change things once we identify distortions even if we still can't disbelieve them.

Hmmm... I sound like my life is sorted when it is actually a mess! But hopefully you know what I mean.

I can't see things getting better in the near future
I am sorry you are triggered at present. I find the self hatred always comes along then and is very hard to budge. These days I mostly try not to do things that don't compound it. Like hating myself for hating myself. Or expecting things from myself that I am not able to do at that time.

And I agree that black and white is a type of distorted thinking. Do you think you are also a perfectionist? I found the two tied to each other and have had to force myself to do moderation and try to expect more moderate things from myself.

I don't know about you but Nothing I ever did was OK at home. Or if it seemed that I was being complemented then there was always a hidden agenda in their somewhere. I didn't know what would happen with movement and so my default was to not do anything. Its a very powerful reflex and ingrained. Don't know if that resonates or not but thought I would share.


Hi Pencil!
I really do understand what you are saying in both of your last posts. There is so much to say relating to the first but I am not going to go into it here as it is so expansive and doesn't sound that relevant to what is bothering Nikakaa. Certainly has been a huge problem for me though.

All I will say about it is that I think there can be important obstacles to even being able to consider distortions. I think I would have taken 7 to 10 years less to get where I presently am in certain ways if I had not had important obstacles to being able to process my distortions.

For me getting partially past them (they are certainly still there) has been very helpful but taken much determined hard work and introspection.

I mostly agree with your second post except that I don't think another person is always necessary for realisations about distortions. Many, many of my realisations have come from me and not from others.Though not the self hatred and other ones related to being brought up in certain environments.

Would I have had the realisations I did if I had continued blindly living my life one moment after the other without attempting new understanding? I sincerely doubt it. But because I really worked terribly hard every single day for 7 odd years I did learn a lot about myself and the world. A lot was helped by what I read in research or books but some was not.

Certain distortions I don't think I would have ever identified without a therapist though.

When I write I really focus on trying to connect experiences, feelings and others reactions or possible perspectives and that has been helpful
 
When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us. (Helen Keller)

I love Helen Keller quotes. Thanks for sharing.

Initially I checked in with myself throughout the day regularly.

I think that is a good place for me to start. I usually get to the end of the day and am so overwhelmed that I can't sort out what is what.

Do you think you are also a perfectionist?

Absolutely. If I can't do it with at least 99% accuracy then I am very hard on myself. This is something I have been working on for years.

I don't know about you but Nothing I ever did was OK at home


Not only was it not ok but every bad thing that happened in the house was my fault. Right down to the way I was born because I was in the hospital for months and caused my parents great financial stress. I truly believed that once I moved out then my family could finally live in peace.

Thanks so much everyone for your replies. I appreciate the many different ideas people share. Sometimes just having a list of things to try can make it seem like there is hope.
 
Basically my hubby and I had an argument (can't even remember what it was about now) and then my mind went crazy. I was telling myself I was ugly, fat, that my hubby didn't really want to be with me but felt stuck because of the kids, that my craziness and problems was driving him away, that I was to much work to be worthwhile, that my thoughts right then were crazy and if I just stopped it then everything would be ok. Things like that.

This just happened to me on Saturday night, nimkekaa and pushed me into a really horrible panic attack that I'm still recovering from. I never knew that "distorted thinking" is what caused this (in quotation marks because of the term, not because I am trying to be snooty).

I hope you feel better, Nimkekaa. HUGS to you if you accept them.
 
Hugs very welcomed, thank you.

I hope things settle down for you also, Err0r. It's horrible that our own brains can be our worse enemy at times. Hugs for you too if you need them.
 
This is such a good thread and so many good and useful comments.

Im just wondering if there are others that are trying to address their distorted thinking and are still in abusive situations or are in situations such as "gaslighting"? And how you address when your energy is spent defending self?

I am having a really hard time with this because there are two people in my life that my therapist says are in collusion and that often lie and sabatoge my efforts.
 
Example from movie where man attempted to drive wife crazy and would turn the gaslights down and when she claimed that the lights were dim, he said it was her imagination. My understanding is that is just one example of the things that he did to her.

My daugher and ex do this regularly. My daughter wrote me a check that she owed me til her student loan came in. She had plenty of money, but I didnt return her call for two days. So she gave me this story about a mix up with her rent check. Then all my checks bounced when i got notice that my deposited check had a stop payment on it from her. I pushed the bank for paper work because she insisted they make a mistake. The paper work named me as recipient. Meanwhile, I told her father that i thought she did this on purpose. He yelled and belittled me, saying I dont trust anyone-not even my daughter. Later I discovered that she had confided in him that she was doing this. So he know. Its crazy making. They play these tricks regularly. Once she took my favorite skirt. When I couldnt find it, I went to the attic storage and basement. She watched me search for 4 days and my asking her. The whole time it was in her soccer bag. She had cut it up to make something with it. It challenges your reality, it is crazy making. Recently, my meds are often missing. My ex does not like to share and is stingy. Our divorce is not final. I really would not be surprised if they do not hope that I commit suicide so that he doesnt have to share equity or pension. She shoves me around and verbally abuses me. Then tells her dad I am crazy. After years of this, I have verbally abused her back-Ive lost it, then I think I am crazy. Sometimes I am so hopeless that I want to commit suicide. He is very passive agressive so when we were married he would lock me out of the house. He would tell the kids they did not have to follow rules when I was gone. He would do their homework for them and then lie about it. He is a big liar and I have no respect left. But I am the one that looks crazy. She finds my passwords and changes my computer settings and phone and blocks me from my own voicemails and websites. She is very clever-just graduated law school but no friends. I suspect she does this to others. She was trying to have a student committed last month because the girl "might" be depressed, but I think she was bullied. He father is in denial. She gained over 100 pounds. Often when there is this type of collusion, there has been sexual abuse.

So my point, what is distorted and what is the truth. When you cant trust those in your own house, how can you seperate distorted thoughts. I feel sabatoged. Is that a distorted thought? I dont feel safe, is that distorted?
 
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