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Do i have to talk to anyone about this?

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What are your goals for therapy? There isn't one thing that you have to work on in therapy at any moment. It doesn't have to be something that is directly related to the treatment of PTSD. If you want to feel more comfortable having a conversation, that can be a goal for therapy.
 
I suppose it is a start though, she can actually speak even if the content is the lightest it can be. It might get me practising and that would be good.
Noticing this same issue with a woman who is in my therapy group. She is actively being abused and is trapped. She can't say that though. She has lost her words. Completely. When it is her turn to speak she cries and blows her nose and literally can't say a word. Abusers like that I think. The name of the game is to shut us up completely (or paint us as crazy if we don't fall mute during the process) so that their secret is safe.

Each of us in the group (besides her) have a real issue with her speaking about the things she does (when she is able to get it out) and refusing to see it as abuse. My T goes along with it. Here is why and reflecting back on my own experience, I get it.

We in the group have been directed to not use the word abused (relating to her experience) around her. She can't face it. Because if he is abusing her, then that changes her internal world view, which is potentially mind shattering. Totally get it. Took me a long time to catch up with the program when I was the 'abused' as well. Not saying this was the OP`s issue, just that there are concepts that take quite a while to be able to get our heads around. A great T will do whatever they can to keep time with the client rather than leading with an agenda of their own.

In the meanwhile, chill out. No criticizing of yourself allowed. Leave that to your T. If they aren`t criticizing you, then why should you be?
 
Noticing this same issue with a woman who is in my therapy group. She is actively being abused and is...
I can totally relate to the op as well. I cannot stand when my therapist refers to something in my life as "abuse" even though it was. I don't see myself as being an abused person... it makes me want to come undone. It's easy to be critical of yourself under the circumstances.
 
Sometimes when I do try to talk (even simple weather-report delivery style) I simply go hoarse or get a coughing fit in short haste or seem to have not enough air to make the volume of the words audible enough, depending on the content. Or words don't come at all. :( Nor do they in conflict. The louder someone else screams or demands the less volume I can muster in response. That part is kind of a new-ish thing, maybe 1-2 years. It leaves me quite devastated, even if they don't seem to be. Even so with demanding or miserable or angry/ insulting people. I just dread the exposure to the whole dynamic.

I do better with answering questions. But no, come to think of it, disastrous and horrible horrible feeling when the questions come from anyone Idk or don't trust. Which is most everybody, lol. :rolleyes: Eiy. :(
 
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Thanks for the help everyone.
I am still working on this. I have gotten a little further by suspending belief for a short period occasionally in my session. I then get the inevitable backlash that I have said too much and feel stupid.
Because I have done a lot of work on my own there are things that did bother me but now that I have been through the ordeal of remembering and letting them calm I get to a point where it seems pointless to discuss it because it’s no longer a problem. I know that this is probably the time to talk about it, when it doesn’t make me feel so bad anymore bit it’s like I am bored of it by then and talking about it is making a big deal of nothing (one of my favourite phrases!).
I do have difficulty seeing the things that happened as abuse but more in the sense that talking about any detail is just gossipy and needless. Gory details aren’t necessary. I’m just trying to get to how I make the changes in my life I need.
Because I don’t want to do details it is quite difficult to know what to say about almost anything. All roads lead to something I don’t wish to discuss.
I don’t understand the balance with therapy between explaining yourself enough for them to help you but not having to go further than feels right. I wish I was someone who could just go there and say anything at all and feel ok with it but I’m not.
My T is great and does keep telling me that I don’t have to talk about anything ever if I don’t want to. I just know that she can’t help if I don’t tell her something, anything.
Rambling now. Thanks for listening. Caz.
 
I do have difficulty seeing the things that happened as abuse but more in the sense that talking about any detail is just gossipy and needless. Gory details aren’t necessary. I’m just trying to get to how I make the changes in my life I need.
Because I don’t want to do details it is quite difficult to know what to say about almost anything. All roads lead to something I don’t wish to discuss. I don’t understand the balance with therapy between explaining yourself enough for them to help you but not having to go further than feels right.

Yes, me too ^^^.

I've been thinking about this, how it is more palatable to me to not assign blame to others where there may not rightfully be, or should have been my responsibility, or harm was not intended, or there were extenuating circumstances, and remembering there had to be context.

Nonetheless, I remain a product of my own life, driven home at times in ways I wish I weren't reminded, often at the least opportune times: a phrase or concept setting me off. And I suspect influencing what would be superficially deemed as anxiety, depression or hopelessness, but in reality reflects so much more.

By example, like last night, I was coming home from work totally dead tired, was waiting, a guy I know (not even the name of, visiting a relative I've met), but over a year or 2, starts talking, long story short says 'because I'm not married' come have sex- he has rum, whiskey and gin- and what do I want for b/fast?, and he's a 'gentleman' (evidenced, he said, by not asking until he knew I wasn't married). OMG and lest I forget 17 years older. Then grabs me a few times. I responded with humour, all the while wishing I could be assertive, and also find other words- of which there were none. And I thought later, more than just lacking assertiveness is the from-the-start off the rails experiences (past; -> anxiety); the thoughts of my life worth nothing, so in a way what does it matter, plus fear of repercussion to stand up for myself/ work/ need/ alone/ no safety net (present; -> depression, anxiety); and potential reality of considering those 1st two is this all that there is to life? (future; -> hopelessness), since I am a realist and I don't feel comfortable assigning meaning where there is not.

Notwithstanding however I realize I was exhausted, and have been asked out by men who are not that way (that delivery), and am not looking to be asked out. But what was driven home to me is how much my past influenced my present, and regret (not specific but general) of what impact it had on my life, as measured within relationships, work, internal thoughts about myself, denying myself what most have or seek, what I tolerate. Etc. But it's not the small things such as that example (unless exhausted as I was), but the bigger thoughts of what value am I in this life, what has my life become, what intrinsically was destroyed by not addressing or acknowledging anything having an impact? (Though conversely, ETA not everything resulted in a negative; some things may have shaped qualities useful to others, compassion, decreased shock value, or listening for what pain appears to possibly be in other's hearts vs what comes out of their mouths. Etc.) But I'm so sick of having to live like this. :meh: And of hearing 'everyone' (though I know that statement from others is itself a fallacy, so I think 'most'or 'many') has (have) a family, or spouse, or children, or extended family, or is loved. Or was. Or what our impact or legacy or value is. At this point mine is zilch. And worse yet, much of the onus of that is on me, in response to my life and past, and particular way of problem solving (leave, avoid, deny, minimize, internalize, self-blame, stay silent).

But the fact remains: had he not said, 'because you are not married', and my mind diverted (since I was waiting, and probably so tired) to the 'past, present, and future' thoughts based on experiences above, would I have let him grab me a few times? I would guess maybe not after the first or 2nd. Idk. :wtf: , anyway. A good place where CBT would help, I think. But I'd still have to expose the thoughts (which includes the "why's", if I even know them ).

So for as much as that can be curtailed sooner than later I think it will benefit you @Carlycat . I agree with Anthony who I believe said at least at some point that if you make your mind up and go in and just say it it's perhaps the ideal. And I see that too as high-drive to overcome and get better. As you said your T can't help you with what you don't reveal. On the other hand as you mentioned above there are competing factors to not view it as disclosure-worthy or blame-worthy. But I think however this is what's required to 'make the changes you need'. To go through, not around.

I suppose there is the happy medium of saying, just leaving all that out of it, here is what happened, what is your take on this? And going from there, leaving the fear of betrayal to loyalty or fear of making too much out of something and everything else behind.

Sorry this is long-winded (and a stupid way of explaining it). I have difficulty with words but I hope in them to try to spare you some grief. I wish you good luck. :hug:

ETA much later.. but then I think too, @Carlycat , if we only think of the potential negatives or difficulties of anything, it seems all-awful and we talk ourselves out of it. It is really also relevant to remember, or to try to take hope in, the rewards that could result- here for example the ease in living, reconcilliation, peace, some joy. More breathing room. Less pain. A sense of freedom from that which weighs heavily.
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