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Are we talking about the general public, or predators, here?
Yeah, I am still not reading things quite right. I noticed after your posting Friday, the term general public. I don't mean everyone is out to exploit, but I do have to be very careful amongst people I don't know.
predators are included in the general public (until we lock them up).:clown:
I very much agree with this statement @Recovery4Me .
 
I'm reading the question slightly differently - not as if predatory people are also out there in the general public, but if we're talking primarily about people who happen to harm others in xyz ways on bad days or people who consciously work at harming others. Which really are two different questions.
 
I hope that I'm far from psychopathic, even in a self defense situation, I think I would freeze rather than kill

but, I'm sure that there would be good business out there for a psychopath that hunted other psychopaths and narcissists.

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That criterion of 'since childhood' applicable. & defense is separate deal from personality disorders altogether.
Besides, why snakes? The way I've been taught to view them the first, they are beautiful animals who can teach people a lot, are rather useful as healers when one minds toxins in the right doses, are useful to study to learn about movement and finding of resources, and yet are rather brilliant as weapons. Poor snakes having all that bad rep.
 
do you think that the general public know when we are down or weak or tired and then, as a result, exploit this and just plain make things even tougher for us?
I'm going to define "the general public" as "most people" ok? Personally, I think "most people" aren't paying enough attention to notice when others are in some sort of trouble and, even when they notice they don't involve themselves. I also think that SOME people who are running around loose probably DO notice and chose to use it for their own ends. And that SOME people also notice and try to help. (There seem to be a lot of THOSE people around here, most days. :))
 
I'd say yes, predators know.

I think that it helps to explain why some people are prone to re-traumatization over and over and over again while others are only traumatized once or twice. Somehow it seems like some of us "learn" from the past and learn to hide our vulnerability while others wave this vulnerability around like a flag. Predators see this vulnerability and target their prey. Don't kid yourself. We aren't that far removed from the animal kingdom.
 
The few human parasites and predators that I've watched, do seem to have some give away clues.

The eyes and the un flinching predatory stare as they lock onto and study potential prey for weaknesses, like a cat watching a mouse or a small bird.

There are no laugh lines around the eyes, the lower lip is relaxed perhaps even loose, the ones that I've watched, which are probably middle functioning ones, don't seem to smile to indicate any friendly intent.

There seem to be exploratory verbal jabs and intrusions into personal space, that seem to be intended to elicit responses so that they can be guaged. There are also blankings and back turning snubs, to see how we respond to being treated like worthless shit.

In the early stages at least, they are deniable. With a skillful narc, everything is deniable - the doubts in your own mind feck you up far more than any certainty would. They see what buttons elicit what responses.

I'm with @Kaia, that I don't think there are any lessons that were failed.

The posture and gait, the facial expressions and the spoken responses of someone who is down, all convey what is going on with them.

someone with poor boundaries will come accross that way to anyone who is paying attention, and predators pay attention.

The narc that I went on the road to avoid in October, seemed to watch my father and brother's attitudes to other people, to guage who he could get away with verbally attacking and physically menacing in their presence. He also escalates to threats and implied threats of physical violence and uses invasion of personal space and physical menacing, rather than having measured responses to what he perceives as slights (incidentally, I've suggested to my brother that he watches some of Sam Vaknin's videos to see if they ring any bells for him, before he asks the narc to explain his thieving. - I don't think confronting the narc will turn out well, his entire monologue (it's not a conversation) seems to consist of boasting about his wonderful retorts to people who questioned or doubted him).

There are people who for what ever reason are drawn to narcs and psychopaths. I've only realized in the past few weeks that the same sex relationships I had, were with some fairly narcissistic arseholes, I go for much nicer females than I ever did males, and it is something that I am not anywhere near to understanding yet.

I think that narc parents also train their offspring to serve them. My father's father was a particularly manipulative and game playing individual (perhaps more neurotically obsessive compulsive and controlling than narcissistic - he used to love trying to put me in what he considered "my place", in front of other people), perhaps he trained us to look up to narcs, and to see narcissistic traits as normal? if so it would explain the apparent blindness to the thieving narc.
 
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