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News Do We Live In A "rape Culture"?
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I never told my son not to rape. I never will and now it's too late, I guess. No one ever told me or any of my guy friends not to rape. Just as I/they /we know it's wrong to assault, rob or murder someone. Anyway, my son knows what rape is (which isn't difficult) and that it's wrong and so do rapists. I never personally heard rape jokes in my life. I think that we live in a lack of prosecution culture, in general.
Rape's the least prosecuted of violent crimes, though.
...I have had guys who think they have a right to talk to me after dark on the street ( no ), a right to approach me, one who thought he had a right to buy my services as a prostitute because of where I happened to be, MANY guys who need to be told " no thanks," twenty times, guys who talk to my tits ( a glance is ok, more than that is CREEPY ).
It's not only rape...
A friend of mine observed that guys forget they have two things: they are physically stronger than women and they have social privilege over women.
Given those two items? Harmless guys have to first prove they aren't a threat. Worse, they have to keep proving it. No, it's not fair to the majority of guys. But it is so.
Keep in mind that the majority of women rape victims are raped by someone they know. A majority of female murder victims are killed by a male intimate partner or ex-intimate partner.
...Look like *that* guy and guess what's going to happen?
...If you are a guy who isn't a douche, and you are heterosexual...trying to hold the douchebros accountable is probably enlightened self-interest.
They are making your life harder. They are running around damaging some women and terrorizing more of them. Women you'd like to have an easier time of getting to know, right?
Just saying.
...I have had guys who think they have a right to talk to me after dark on the street ( no ), a right to approach me, one who thought he had a right to buy my services as a prostitute because of where I happened to be, MANY guys who need to be told " no thanks," twenty times, guys who talk to my tits ( a glance is ok, more than that is CREEPY ).
It's not only rape...
A friend of mine observed that guys forget they have two things: they are physically stronger than women and they have social privilege over women.
Given those two items? Harmless guys have to first prove they aren't a threat. Worse, they have to keep proving it. No, it's not fair to the majority of guys. But it is so.
Keep in mind that the majority of women rape victims are raped by someone they know. A majority of female murder victims are killed by a male intimate partner or ex-intimate partner.
...Look like *that* guy and guess what's going to happen?
...If you are a guy who isn't a douche, and you are heterosexual...trying to hold the douchebros accountable is probably enlightened self-interest.
They are making your life harder. They are running around damaging some women and terrorizing more of them. Women you'd like to have an easier time of getting to know, right?
Just saying.
I think guys get the bad en of the stick when it comes to societal and judicial process. I've seen in the past few years a lot more press on the matter, like the Rolling Stone's recanted and massively apologetic (too little, too take) stance of their screwup. Those within the fraternity are suing the University and Rolling Stone. Many in other campuses are now doing so after such coverage and public awareness being raised. They are less fearful of not being taken seriously. The same has happened for cases of celebrities who did nasty things to people. One comes out of the woodwork, then another, and another and then a pitfall. I don't blame them in the least. Phi Kappa Psi was faced with the proverbial pitchforks being raised; even faculty were standing outside the dorm during the early morning chanting "Wake up! Wake up! It's time to confess!" That level of public outcry tells me that rape culture is far from the Western World as it has ever been. The public outcry was HUGE. It made worldwide press. It still is, and this happened in 2014.
Sabrina Rubin Erdely did not do a service towards feminism. It basically brought to light a reporter who came up with a story and had to fill it in with an account, and that account ended up being false. I don't doubt prosecution will an all-time low these next few years due to the ripple effect by the Rolling Stone. People are starting to ask the hard questions, and victim blaming is losing its protective stance and those who are victims are being questioned more than ever.
A friend of mine Ahmed from Somalia considers his country to be approximate to rape culture as described by the west. Public displays of affection are rare in the area, sexual education is at an all time low, what the Western World is to them is seen literally through a lens: the movies. He said if he had emigrated as an older man he would have thought the whole country were cosplaying - it's that big a divide in the brain. The societal gap makes for an almost alien experience.
While I have never been and most likely never will have first-hand experience in visiting Somalia and experiencing this societal gap on my own, the difference in public reaction and public education towards sexuality in both my country and Somalia's are too big not to notice and the conversation I had with Ahmed is really eye opening to me. Is it a definition/moving of goalpost issue? How much more is feminism going to suffer from false rape accusations if narratives continue to be pushed to the point where victims do not get the justice they rightfully deserve?
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Sabrina Rubin Erdely did not do a service towards feminism. It basically brought to light a reporter who came up with a story and had to fill it in with an account, and that account ended up being false. I don't doubt prosecution will an all-time low these next few years due to the ripple effect by the Rolling Stone. People are starting to ask the hard questions, and victim blaming is losing its protective stance and those who are victims are being questioned more than ever.
A friend of mine Ahmed from Somalia considers his country to be approximate to rape culture as described by the west. Public displays of affection are rare in the area, sexual education is at an all time low, what the Western World is to them is seen literally through a lens: the movies. He said if he had emigrated as an older man he would have thought the whole country were cosplaying - it's that big a divide in the brain. The societal gap makes for an almost alien experience.
While I have never been and most likely never will have first-hand experience in visiting Somalia and experiencing this societal gap on my own, the difference in public reaction and public education towards sexuality in both my country and Somalia's are too big not to notice and the conversation I had with Ahmed is really eye opening to me. Is it a definition/moving of goalpost issue? How much more is feminism going to suffer from false rape accusations if narratives continue to be pushed to the point where victims do not get the justice they rightfully deserve?
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