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Relationship Eggshells, Or Rightly Respecting Ptsd Needs?

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jenkins123

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I'm feeling lost at the restart of a relationship with someone I believe has ptsd ( he has never used this term, but shared info of his toxicchildhood being continuously beaten by his father, very upset when telling me, and that he was in therapy to try to rid himself of it finally, also citing he is emotionally numb). Things started very strong (older thread of mine shows details), but as soon as my feelings showed he became quite aloof and unavailable and we ended a year ago, after only three months as I was totally unaware of ptsd and mistook the avoidance for disinterest. On the day we parted he got drunk, got upset again mentioning his father, told me he loved me and left. I was shocked at the declaration as I had assumed he wasn't interested, so I then spent many months trying to talk to him for us to resume if he felt he loved me. This was all via email, many were ignored, one was met with aggression, then weeks later nothing until out of the blue he told me he was sorry he had been so silent, that he had resumed serious therapy for his childhood and that silence was for the best. In this time I had begun to read up on pstd (all here) and learnt the things I had done wrong (overcontact, not respecting space etc). I said I understood and was here if he needed me.

Once in a while I would text very short messages of support, no demands, questions or need for reply, and he began flirting and suggested a meet up. I accepted, and he cancelled again citing it not being "safe". Some time later I sent him a link to this site, said I cared for him but I would leave him be, and he later came back suggesting a meet up. On the day itself he cancelled, saying he didn't want to be with anyone at all. I was hurt of course, as I felt I was being pushed and pulled. I felt that as I have tried to learn (yes I am human and do make mistakes, perhaps emailing when I shouldn't), I have tried to give him space but when he suggested getting together I assumed he was ready, so I accepted any meet ups and then he would cancel. A few months went by and I sent an email ( yes I know this is wrong but it was a spontaneous moment of weakness) asking if there was any chance for us. He replied that he loved me. I said I loved him too and suggested he take the lead if he wanted to resume, to which he stated he would be in town this month.

We began flirty texts again and he said he was looking forward to seeing me. So we met, 8 months after I had last seen him on the day he said he loved me and left. There was/is of course so much to talk about (is he still in therapy, does he indeed have ptsd and if so pls give me some pointers as to how to handle your down times etc) So of course I asked nothing! Scared of overloading that stress cup! The only thing he mentioned on an emotional level was that he hated my long emailing but that he adored me. Face to face he is wonderfully attentive and loving and we obviously care about each other. When he left we made tentative arrangements to meet again, which he cancelled just before. I feel I am back to the unknown, and I am no longer sure if I am enabling this vague behaviour by not asking directly if he is ready to resume a relationship, and to ask for him to communicate his needs better to me, i.e set some boundaries. Am I expecting too much, or not enough?
 
First question, does he think there was a relationship or there is a "restart"? If not you are spending a lot of time and energy on something that doesn't exist.

I read your intro thread but from what I see here [3 months dating " we ended a year ago, after only three months "; 8 months no face to face contact and one brief face to face] I am confused about all the time/effort you are putting into this?

Perhaps you could try less energy on being a caretaker in a relationship that isn't, focus on yourself - be young, carefree! focus on self development, and the self to be developed is you.

I am saying none of this to be hurtful or mean spirited, I did re-read but for the life of me I wouldn't consider 3 months dating/8 months NOTHING/and then a one time meeting as relationship material. Why so invested if you investment is not being reciprocated? This truly is meant is a loving a way as possible...and from someone who has MORE than made my share of "relationship" mistakes.

I would take care of myself IF by some "fate" or "star-struck" love you and this man are meant to be...he will come around more than once ever 8 months. Be healthy this sounds frankly unhealthy, even to me.
 
Hi
I left out certain details, but the intro thread fills in some of this. We were friends for over two years and then he made a strong statement of wanting a serious future with me, even prepared to move to my town to get to know me better, so yes it was very much the start of a serious relationship at that time a year ago. While I understand your point, and would have walked away from anything this one sided long ago, it is the ptsd side of this story that has made me persist, and resume. Also I have always been clear with him that if we met up again it would be to resume that serious relationship, assuming he was emotionally ready to do so.
 
Gosh, girl. You deserve better than this. Sometimes it is better to completely let go and see what happens. You deserve more than being cancelled on and neglected. I hope whatever decision you make that in the end you take care of yourself. It hurts to be treated badly and in the end you have to take care of yourself.:tdown:
 
You don't have PTSD or am I misunderstanding that. You are putting your life on hold for "someone I believe has ptsd ( he has never used this term, but shared info of his toxic childhood". You said yourself don't know his intentions by your last meeting -- "by not asking directly if he is ready to resume a relationship" . So these are the reason why you persist?

And I dont "buy" he is treating her badly, he walked away from a short-term relationship (3 months), nearly a year later had another meeting. Dont see the "treated badly" part, not at least from the perspective of him keeping her hanging on. Seems like he let go, she didn't...where is the blame in that. Does one have to wait till the other party is ready to let go to let go?

Live and let live. Wishing you much luck.
 
No I don't have ptsd,i believe he does by all he has said, and what I have read here. I agree that as a potential partner I need to know for sure if we are dealing with ptsd, but either way he is certainly dealing with emotional trauma from childhood that is manifesting in current life, this much he has expressed without actually using the term ptsd.
In our last meeting i did actually ask if this now meant we were restarting, and if he wanted to carry on to which he replied yes. I am therfore not debating these two points, but am wondering why I am still getting the avoidance when he has stated he wants to be with me. I am not putting my life on hold, I am getting on with my life, but I am emotionally invested in him at the same time and I am wondering if my own behaviour is enabling his?
 
Just to conclude my time here, we recently decided to end things and remain friends only. Of course I wanted more, but agree that, while his childhood may have accounted for some behaviour, in other ways perhaps we simply didn't want the same thing.
I'd like to thank those who have answered my questions and doubts and helped me to learn how to moderate my behaviour for anything that may have been ptsd connected. I have learnt a lot about the long term effects of childhood trauma from this site, and although my story hasn't ended as I would have liked, I hope I have been somewhat more supportive to my ex from what I learnt.
 
Look after yourself Jenkins. You deserve some time to look on what you have gained from here, for yourself as well as your ex.

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