Egocentric Thinking

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Thanks FN (still can't call you the other name as just feels wrong!)

Wow, I knew there's some woo psychotherapy out there but I didn't know there's so much going on with tech speak.
What would a list of 'safe terms' consist of? That is, like the terms you use to outline the 'wise mind' concept. I'd find that helpful
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I shall be interested to hear from Anthony too.
What I do know is that there are a lot of "coaches" and other practitioners that are not properly regulated, supervised or qualified who use such things as NLP, hypnotherapy and other skills and can cause enormous damage. I hate too how often there seems to be a manipulative and money grabbing aspect to the whole thing. :mad:

Its sad to hear mindfulness is starting to be used by such people instead of the the clinical way it was being utilised. :cautious:

Thought I would post a more scientific link of research that apparently used DBT skills including mindfulness and "wise mind" which as Anthony said are all a recognised treatment for BPD (DBT). Eye of Horus
And this one less so but still informative.
Think I have posted enough now!:rolleyes:

 

[anthony]

Thought I would post a more scientific link of research that apparently used DBT skills including mindfulness and "wise mind" which as Anthony said are all a recognised treatment for BPD (DBT). Eye of Horus

This is aimed directly at only those with likely personality disorders, as the title of that study says it all Treatment for PTSD Related to Childhood Abuse: A Randomized Controlled Trial

People rarely have something like BPD without having endured trauma. BPD is not a biological illness, it has a psychological cause, typically long term abuse, and majority off, as a child during the years of brain and behavioural development. It can be developed as an adult, though typically only ever seen in combination with complex trauma, ie. POW's. So yes, this would be suffice under this circumstance as you referenced. I doubt you will ever see a study based solely on DBT with BPD, without including the full facts, being the cause of BPD in the first instance, which means PTSD or some type of traumatic stress disorder.

Wow, I knew there's some woo psychotherapy out there but I didn't know there's so much going on with tech speak.

I don't personally believe its about "safe terms" but more keeping the reality of what a specific therapy actually is, its target use, and minimizing those statements when people pull a part out of a combined treatment for a specific purpose, then attempt to apply that outside its intended purpose.

EMDR is a very good example. There are now several names people have developed and attempting to market, which all began and still are, EMDR, though they have tried to remove or add something, change a process enough, in an attempt to market it uniquely for popularity. End result... it is EMDR or a complete failure because they change too much of it, ie. EFT. EFT attempted to put acupuncture pressure points with tapping upon them (EMDR technique), combined with person centered therapy (relationship counselling), and then attempt to apply it to a traumatic processing scenario. Its overall outcome... complete failure under FMRI, but some drink the cool aid nonetheless.

I could also toss into this, being directly related to discussion above, Stress Inoculation Training, which people have attempted to modify and isolate small elements as "Mind Body" and "Bio-Feedback".

I think it is more the above leads towards abuse within the industry, and that pisses me off. I have a bug in my butt about some of the shonky things going on within the mental health industry... RANT!

Anyway... this is all getting off point IMHO.