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General Expectations In A Relationship With A Ptsd Sufferer

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Wow. I got to post 10 before I had tears in my eyes and HAD to sign up -- just to be on this thread! I am goin...
OMG AlwaysLoveHim I felt like I was looking in a mirror.....

I'm going into an MSW program this fall and want to work with veterans. My fiancee is a combat vet and we have a lot of good days and some bad days. We've just gone through a few bad days and I'm honestly at a loss. I feel sad and wrung out and wondering if I did the right thing.... with everything in my life right now.

I know at the same time that I'll come home tomorrow or the day after and he'll be back to normal, but what is normal? I have found so much help and support here since nobody in my life fully understands what's going on with him. Some days I feel so alone... I feel like I'm over burdening my friends and family. I'm trying really hard not to get my family involved in this, but at the same time I've always been close to my family and now they feel very estranged from me. Sigh.....

And I'll also echo the sentiment that its nice to know that we're not alone.
 
Yes this is a good thread. My ex has cptsd and I now believe my father has combat PTSD as well. My father was in Korea in a medical unit like on Mash. He was in Japan for a training when his unit was bombed. Everyone died. My father has spent most of his life shutting people out. I haven't talked to him in a year and a half. This is how I grew up. So why wouldn't I find someone that breaks up with me and barely talks to me for months at a time?
 
I met a beautiful man back in January. On our first meeting I did realise something was just a little different. He later told me he had served in Rwanda. I asked if he suffered from PTSD. A big yes was his reply.

I would have walked away right then and there...but...we are women...we are curious...we are intuitive...we are loving...and we are the caregivers of the world...I kept giving it "just one more date".

The attraction grew very quickly for both of us. Not just the physical, but emotional, intellectual. There was something 'comfortable' about being in each other's company.

I finally decided to invite him over for dinner. It was Valentine's Day, so talk about expectations. I talked myself into thinking "it's ok, I got this". I had read up on PTSD and felt I was prepared. I contacted him the day prior to confirm knowing that he may forget or become distracted. He said he would be there so I went out and bought what I call "good groceries" ... better than I normally cook for myself including beer and wine, had my hair done, bought a new outfit. I wanted everything to be relaxing and comfortable for him, and to treat him to a nice home cooked meal.

The 'day of', at about 2pm, I received a text saying very simply that he just couldn't make it and that he was sorry. End of discussion. I have anxiety, so needless to say that triggered me. I handled it very tactfully and with understanding at first but then I got mad. I didn't want to be the door mat some of you discribe.

We went into a negative spiral of text and email communication intermixed with phone messages of which he didn't answer. I kind of don't blame him for that part. Yet for 8 more months we continued communicating through the safety-net of texting (ironically not always so safe due to the ease of miscommunication but it was what he could handle and from my view at least I got something back from him). Largely with me reaching out to apologize for not handling things well, but if I didn't contact him for awhile, I would then hear from him.

9 months later, like a long painful birth, we met again while I was traveling. He had since moved cross country. It was as if nothing had happened. We spent two beautiful days together. I then asked him if he would like me to stay a little longer, meaning I had some flexibility and could stay an extra day or two. He misunderstood and said he couldn't be held responsible for such a decision. I took that as rejection.

So here we are again, back on that same path. However this time the rebound timing seems to be recovering far more quickly. So I tell myself, perhaps it is just both of us having to learn to understand one another both as a normal relationship, and then the adition of his PTSD mixed with my anxiety.

The positive thing is that we have both had our own counselling and training on how to cope with our own issues prior to meeting one another. And our issues are not new. We have both been managing our 'stuff' for 20 years each separately before we met.

I have read as much as I can on PTSD and I know a fair amount about depression and anxiety as I had PPD when my daughter was first born. I know that sometimes some of these issues can be cureable, although more often at least treatable providing those suffering are willing participants. In other cases it is a lifelong condition that must be managed with coping skills, medication, and a good support network from all involved...and the patience of Saints.

Those suffering with mental health injuries and disorders still have so much to offer the world. This is where I struggle in terms of becoming involved with someone who deals with PTSD though, because they do indeed hold much value in so many ways. We cannot throw that part away. But how do we balance the good with the bad?

The one thing I do know, is as much as there are so many common threads, one cannot say that each situation is exactly the same. There are many facets involved in each individual relationship, and situation. Family support, medication and it's affects both positive and negative on each individual (our bodies are uniquely designed and what works for one may not work for another), personal circumstances including financial, homelife, work relations and abilities, extended support networks and so on and so on...

I'm not even sure why I'm writing this....Perhaps it is to work through in my own mind whether I indeed cann manage such a relationship or ot...I do question very seriously, if this is at all a good idea to get further into it...but we are in our 50's now...and from my experience out there, everyone has something in their life they are dealing with. There is alot of heavy stuff out there. You do not get to this stage in life without having lived with and through challenges...some more than others.

So...do we try to make it work with someone we find a deep connection with? Or do we keep rolling along hoping to find our dream partner who is perfect?

I can say for sure that I appreciate the power of a supportive network of people who can speak from experience and who are brave enough to do so, without judgement of one another...

Thank you to all of you for speaking up ... and out... xo
 
Wow. I got to post 10 before I had tears in my eyes and HAD to sign up -- just to be on this thread! I am goin...
Hey this is a great thread and I am so much in love with my man we have broken up three times already the last time it was for 3 months but then he came back and is getting help thru the VA it's a milestone because he would not get counseling before, boundaries are important in every relationship he's my vanishing man sometimes and it can get very lonely and sometimes I think he's a player it's not good but my trust is building the more coping skills and information I learn I feel a strong desire to help him and others God willing
 
hi thanks for ur post my guy was in Afghanistan and helped w hurricane Katrina cleanup we have broken up 4 times and I keep on having hope for us despite he just drops out, the last time was for 3 months but now he is getting counseling I myself have trust issues so it's very trying for both of us, he could be a player I think it would be the perfect cover right but somehow I choose the high road and trust him, my problem is that he drops out and offers only apologies I really take it hard because I like to do a lot of stuff what's the best way to get my guy to do stuff with me
 
Wow it has been SO helpful to read all of these replies and realize that I’m not alone in feeling like...

Thank you all for putting up posts in here, been in a relationship for 5 months with a wonderful man who has ptsd, he has told me so much yet I'm still trying to u understand it, I'm going to read all your posts, and thank you all again, so much support out there
 
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By reading these I'm hoping I'm not alone in feeling well.. alone. I've been with my boyfriend for 3 years now and I'll admit our relationship didn't start out as most but we fell in love. I met him after he was out of the marine corps. He suffers from sever ptsd and has been granted IU(unemployability) from the VA. He has 2 small children as well from a previous marriage that he sees on weekends.

For the most part he's his normal self but every few months he really gets triggered by something, which is happening now actually. And our whole relationship suddenly becomes this danger zone and I'm pushed away because he wants to be left alone.

I work a full time job so he's home all day alone. He constantly watches sports and plays xbox, which in my opinion seems like and escape from reality, and never really seems to care about spending time with me.

I just always feel like I'm never doing enough for him but yet he never wants to ask for anything. If it's not one thing it's another.

It's been hard on me and his mood are so unpredictable I don't know how to be half of the time.

I'm hoping seeing more of your stories can make me feel a little less alone.

Thank you all for sharing!
 
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Hey everyone, thanks for sharing your experiences and feelings.
It's not an easy situation to figure out and reading about all your experiences helps me to recognize that I'm not alone in feeling such anxiety and doubt.
I met my darling back in September and it seems overly cheesy when I describe it as love at first sight. We kept in contact all the time, and spoke for hours while he was away on his tours, Afghanistan and other crisis zones. He is so beautiful, thoughtful, kind and compassionate. It was a fairytale romance and he would send me flowers, cook for me and bring me surprise lunches at work. He even would come do activities he didn't like but only because he could spend time with me this way.

After we spent a perfect Christmas vacation away together, he suddenly turned cold. completely. Stopped calling me or messaging me at all. I was always the one to contact him and would at least make it so I'd see him once a week, or remind him that I wanted to see him. It became very difficult and two weeks ago I told him I had felt like I was doing this on my own. I was the one who gave him kisses and hugs and he only reacted 50% of the time to my affection. I felt completely insecure, which is strange for me because I have overcome that battle many years ago.

I love him so much, but when I finally confronted him he broke down and told me he is suffering from PTSD. He didn't want me to leave and he just kept asking me for more time. Then he told me he doesn't trust me. And that he can't feel any feelings, but he 'thinks' that he really likes me. I don't know what to even think about that response. I know its symptomatic, but it leaves me feeling doubtful about a happy future.
I'm hurt he wasn't upfront with me about it and only told me about his PTSD after I wanted to leave him, 5 months into this. I now question whether he faked our incredible time together, or that the times he was being romantic with me, if it was ever real or if he just acted like what society would expect of him.
He can't even talk to me about what happened to him or what triggers him. He totally shut down and I was so scared about how much he was hurting. I felt so guilty for triggering such a bad reaction, and I'm trying to make the decision to stay or go. He said I'm good for him, and not to give up on him...but in the last week he has slipped back in the not talking to me mode, and I don't know what to do. He's an amazing man and helps the most underprivileged people without a second thought. I admire him for who i believe him to be but am scared of how hard this PTSD will affect our future life. He lives with his parents so they can keep an eye on him, and I have not yet met them.

My family are starting to ask questions and so are my friends. I want to be with him, I've never met a more incredible intelligent and humble man. But I'm starting to question who he actually is vs his 'prescribed' actions in trying to be normal as told to him by his therapist.

In my heart, I want to stay, I want to be there for him and be someone he can trust and depend on. Its just that it's looking like a one-way street, and I don't know if I'm strong enough to face something he can't even talk about.

What would you do, knowing what you have experienced in your own relationships?
Thanks for your time to read and share.
 
What would you do, knowing what you have experienced in your own relationships?

First, a tangential thought - you might get more replies if you start a new thread, rather than posting as a reply. I don't know.

Should you stay or should you go? Only you can decide if it's worth it.

Who is the 'real him'? I think the idea of a 'real identity' is a harmful myth. He's a guy who does some great things. He's a guy who is not good at intimate relationships. (Romantic relationships, he seems to be very good at it. Intimacy seems to frighten him.) He's a guy who is confused and who doesn't always act in his own interests. If anything is 'the real him', it's all of the parts put together.

I don't know if I'm strong enough to face something he can't even talk about

Do you have to do that to be in a relationship with him? Don't try to be his therapist if you don't have 10 years of training and experience. Don't try to fix him. If he's good enough as he is now, then he's good enough. If he's not going to be a net positive in your life as he is now, then you're better off without him. If the truth is somewhere in between those extremes, then the best way forward is probably also somewhere in between.
 
I agree with BlueOrange; you will get more replies if you start a new thread. This thread is suuuper old. The title must just get a lot of hits on Google and direct people here (which is great!).
 
[Self Edit- this post turned out way longer than I had intended. It is also just in my own experienc...

Do you get a 'sorry' after he treats you that way? I don't, even after I clearly state that I do not appreciate being attacked, and accused of something I did not do, and that an apology would come a long way. Nothing. Like he does have the right to treat me a certain way I do not deserve to be treated, and I would never treat my worst enemy that way. I have never given him a teason. Not apogizing for his behaviour gives me the indication that within himsf he believes it is perfectly fine to treat me that way - in front of our son. This is why I'm getting the f out of here. Anyone has experience what coperanting is like with a jerk likd this after divorce? I don't want my child to learn this kind of behaviour.
 
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