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General First time poster - supporter or punch bag?

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ByrnesT

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Apologies if this comes off a little ranting! I will try to curb it best I can.

I fear my relationship with my sufferer is damaged beyond repair & I don’t know if there is anything that can be done anymore? We met 2.5 years ago &, like so many others I have read on here, I too can describe a strong, deep, love of my life, soulmate kind of bond. It’s a love & a connection I didn’t think was possible & when we’re together & we are good it feels like everything fits into place. Sadly, that feeling so rarely lasts tho.

Reading posts on here, so many seem to describe their good spells as lasting weeks or months. My sufferer & I have never managed this long. A few days would sadly be our best run I would say.

In 2.5 years I would say my sufferer has broken up with me anywhere between 100-150 times & those break ups have lasted anywhere between fleeting moments to a few months at a time.

I hate myself for lowering myself to a similar level (tho nowhere near that excessive amount I promise!) but we have got to a point now where the last few times we agree to “try again” I also now call it a day once we hit a brick wall. It’s not the episodes themselves that scare me off as such, it’s that I see no change & I see no effort to change. But I also know this is the worst thing I could do is to let her feel like I’m abandoning her.

The trouble I believe is largely that my sufferer is both undiagnosed & untreated. When we first met I immediately recognised there were some issues but I was in no way scared off & I fell for her completely. To feel love from her is so all empowering & feels so right & I feel like I’m the luckiest man in the world to see the wonderful person she really is rather than a lot of the front she tries to use to mask herself. But she was breaking up with me within the first week or two of us knowing each other & it has never ceased. Originally I naively thought that as long as I was kind & loving towards her then she would learn to trust & love me back. I now know this was a mistake.

Without going into the endless list of examples, she can fire off on an angry & aggressive rant over literally anything. Whatever I say or do, she will find a way to be so deeply offended, yet it all so rarely makes any logical sense of any kind. Having read many accounts on here I know this is nothing unique. And of course I am not claiming that I have never got something wrong in our relationship! But, as arrogant as it makes me feel to say, I don’t feel I have done that much wrong by her. I have made some mistakes along the way like any person in any relationship would, but even then the reactions are so disproportionate to what has happened. But in the most part, usually nothing has even happened & my sufferer will lash out like her whole world has just fallen apart. Which, for her, I assume it has. I just can’t see why or then reason with her.

The situation is complicated by the fact that I met my sufferer only a few months after she walked away from her husband (12 year relationship) with her 2 children. She is in constant battle with her ex (not her abuser) & is hyper sensitive about her children. Understandable as it was her own childhood that effected her so badly but an even more difficult situation to manage for someone trying to fit into her world.

I have always maintained that my sufferer’s illness does not scare me away from her & that I am willing to work with her to get to a better place. Sadly she remains untreated & unwilling to really see the damage she creates. Even with hindsight, long after an episode is over, it is an extreme rarity for my sufferer to look back & recognise that what upset her was misconstrued, mistaken or just plain didn’t happen. In fact, it would simply just reignite the flame of anger & it will spiral out of control even further. This makes it very tough to see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore.

I have read so many pieces of advice as to how to deal with a sufferer when they are angry etc. So far nothing seems to work. If I describe how she can come across or how it makes me feel, then I am emotionally abusing her, I am the bully. By telling her I don’t blame her but that I think she’s not well & she needs help, I am gaslighting her. By simply walking away to give us both some space, I am abandoning her. In my weaker moments when I do argue back, it’s disastrous for obvious reasons.

My sufferer has (sparingly) admitted herself that she believes she has CPTSD, yet it never changes anything. I suppose for me I struggle to appreciate that if she believes she has something which she knows can effect her sense of logic surrounding situations, then why can’t she step back to reevaluate or at least step away from the situation to calm down. But then, that would be logical which is maybe the problem?

I don’t feel I have a support network myself because as much as I have wonderful friends & family, their tolerance is exhausted. Understandably they have my best interests at heart & want me to walk away from what they see as me being abused & me living in increasingly regular misery.

I fear I’ve slipped from being her support to simply being her punch bag (or in fact, maybe always was). I question whether she does love me or whether she is simply taking advantage of me. I have been called every name under the sun & more hurtfully a controller, an abuser & a bully.

My sufferer doesn’t have time, concentration or simply interest to be there for me or support me in virtually anything. So I feel like I give my all & get so little in return. I’ve always told myself that that’s cos of the illness & the relationship requires me to be the stronger person, but I now wonder to what an extent? I wonder where the illness ends & where the flaws in personality begin? I don’t want to be a fool who forgives everything under the name of an illness while ignoring myself being treated badly. But at same time I want to support her & show her the world can be a better, more loving place. I still believe her to be the love of my life cos I still feel I see the “real her”. And she maintains I am still the love of her life. I’m just at a loss as to where to turn anymore.
 
You experience mirrors many who come here; it certainly mirrors mine.

If your wife is undiagnosed and not in therapy/treatment, I’m afraid your life will continue as it has from her perspective. You cannot change her but you can change you.

You can learn to have boundaries for you and enforce them with consistent consequences. You can go to therapy yourself to learn coping skills and insight. When I first got here, I was in the same roller coaster ride as you are now. Learning and living those 2 things was the beginning of me getting off the roller coaster and finding internal peace.

Take care of you.
 
I have been called every name under the sun & more hurtfully a controller, an abuser & a bully.

This happens to be one of my personal hard limits.

I won't be with anyone who is scared of me, or who thinks I am abusive.

There are supporters here who shrug off on a daily basis things that I won't tolerate for 2 seconds. There are things I don't blink over that are other people's hard limits. That's mostly an issue of boundaries & preference; what we will & will not tolerate in our lives.

You're allowed to have those. You don't have to prove you're NOT who she says your are.

If I describe how she can come across or how it makes me feel, then I am emotionally abusing her, I am the bully. By telling her I don’t blame her but that I think she’s not well & she needs help, I am gaslighting her. By simply walking away to give us both some space, I am abandoning her.

Because no matter WHAT you do? Yes. People can twist it to leave you no reasonable out.

You can only abandon kids and pets. Everyone else? Can take care of themselves. They might not WANT to, but that doesn't change that they can.
 
Thank you for the responses.

I do try to set boundaries. I try to remain calm & strong & tell her that I will not bow down to anger & rage or simply anything that i find to be unreasonable behaviour or demands. It doesn’t seem to get me very far tho.

I guess the problems are maybe that she is not doing her part in getting the help she needs to manage this. And that I struggle to deal with walking away from situations (or the relationship) where I’m painted as something I know I’m not. It’s so incredibly difficult to have someone you love accuse you of things you know are not true & not let it effect you. I guess I’m trying to fix the situation & the way she sees the world as a threat, yet I know deep down I cannot do this.

I have told her many times now that I cannot fix this for her. She has directly told me that she needs me to fix it for her tho. I immediately explained this would not work but maybe this was symbolic of how she genuinely sees it. In which case I know there is not much hope.
 
This is very true.

Not even sure why exactly I have posted any of this, guess I just needed a place to vent! So thank you to anyone has read & especially those who have responded.

It’s hard not to take it all so personally & question everything about yourself, even when the logical part of your brain already knows the answers. Guess I find it hard to understand why if she loves me as much as she says that she can’t tackle any of this & want to change things. But I know that this is me taking something personally which I should not. I know it’s not really about me or my fault.

It’s so hard to explain to anyone outside of all this how it feels to have found the person you believe you’re meant to be with, but it’s like they’re on the other side of the glass & you just can’t smash through to get to them.
 
I’ll certainly second that! It’s such a sad & evil thing for our loved ones to have to live with. And it’s that feeling that as much as I read & “understand”, I can never actually understand. They see the world differently to us & I so desperately want to turn the light back on for her.
 
Actually accepting the fact that I couldn't help my vet made things easier. It took the pressure off. I am not responsible for his mental health. All I can do is respond in a positive way when he is symptomatic.

For example, I do not engage in lashing out behavior. I remove myself from the situation because I have a boundary about how I will be spoken to. He has gotten a lot better about it, and he knows that I will remove myself if he does start in on me. He has also figured out I'm not leaving him or being disrespectful. I'm enforcing my boundary.
 
Can I ask if anyone has any advice on how I can approach certain things.

I understand that my partner is triggered by things I say & do. And there are certain things I can work on to avoid or change in order to help with this. But there are certain things I can’t see how I could possibly change.

For example, in the past she has text asking if she could ring me & I replied that I was busy helping my father at that exact moment but would ring her ASAP & asked her if everything was ok; this led to a break down of epic proportions. Screaming, shouting, breaking up, advertising herself on a dating website within a few days. Or having plans to see her the next day & at bedtime asking if those plans were still on, this also led to a meltdown where I was apparently being difficult & confusing her.

There are of course so many more endless examples of these situations.

These are such “normal” situations & conversations I don’t see what I can possibly do to change what I’m doing? Her only response to me upsetting her tho seems to be that “well that upset me so don’t do it”. Is there any way of getting through to her that these situations do not warrant getting upset in the first place tho & that she needs to in fact manage these urges?
 
Ok, here's another realization that took a load off my mind.

You are not triggering her. She is being triggered.

Unless you know a specific trigger and are purposely doing it for malicious glee, it is not your fault. She has to own her own shit. It's happening in her head, not in reality.

There is NO way you can know what all may trigger her. She doesn't even know.

It sounds like she is placing a lot of responsibility for her mental health issues on you.
 
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