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I'm just embarrassed because I know he's dating someone else but I want him to know I still care. I guess it's selfish, almost more for my own comfort than for his, that I want to contact him. I guess I'll know when the time is right to send a message, or not... :\

Thank you for taking the time to reply, though. Any advice is welcome. Right now just trying to have faith and patience. I feel that so many people on this site are so much stronger than me and I'm trying to learn as much as possible.
 
Your welcome! I can tell you my vet warned me if he feels close to me he pushes harder away. Maybe the other girl is easier because he is not as close... One could hope...hmmm there is that hope word again
 
That's what everyone seems to be saying, just finding it hard to understand. I guess I'm not necessarily meant to understand it though. Hopefully in a few weeks time I'll have a better grasp at least on my part and how to deal with what I'm feeling. Being shut out is never easy, I suppose...
 
As many have said on here, you also have to be careful that you aren't excusing unexcusable 'normal' behavior for PTSD. I've had a couple of exes move on into new relationships and still contacting me telling me that they miss me, etc. and it has nothing to do with PTSD. They did the same thing with me when we dated, speaking to the exes before me and it is hurtful!! In one case, I gave up feeling bad about being 'the other girl' as it later became obvious the ex had interfered not caring about me, not letting him go, and even went as far as getting hostile with me after I had moved on and she had him back because she is in an unhappy relationship with her once ex that still loves me because she acted crazy enough for him to take one headache vs. two. I feel sorry for the girl that is the next after me if I'm in a relationship like that. Not because I want someone that treats me, or anyone else like that back, but because he can't make up his mind and she is just another me waiting to be hurt.

I do not know if my current 'ex' gets it that I'm not moving on till I'm completely clear in my head and ready to let him go but if he moved on... I would sure as heck be ready. We've had a couple of bats with that through out our relationship with just him even communicating and being suspicious with other girls and I had to put my foot down BIG time (after many vents on here) that I wouldn't tolerate it. Stop speaking to him, tell him to leave me alone. He retracts and repairs every time before it goes to far... communicating what seems to be the truth every time. But there is that one moment that stands out in my mind and tugs at my heart strings every time where I'm pretty positive by the stuff that's slipped from his mouth, or the pieces of his story that have changed of something that happened when he decided he needed a "break".

In the end, there is a point where he's just got to either get on the pot or get off. The more we are apart, and I spend time with friends, I realize that I'm actually a lot more content with my life the way it's been than I had been, but being mistreated is unexcusable NO MATTER WHAT! Isolation is one thing, being with someone else and keeping you on a string is another. Not acceptable no matter how much it hurts, no matter what his 'reasons' are, you deserve better than that... WE ALL DO! Don't sell yourself short... mistreatment is mistreatment and there are plenty of sufferers out there capable of loving someone without bringing the hurt, or excuses, or intolerance to be any different.
 
I think that makes sense. I think both ways make sense in fact. However, I do feel defensive of him and unwilling to blame him for his actions at this point. This was not a drama-ridden relationship and the 180 occurred in a week, not over months of fighting and a change of heart.

I don't think he's keeping me on a string at all, if anything, I'm keeping myself on a string with the hope that he'll communicate with me. Note, I didn't say, come running back as my knight in shining armor... but, the communication is very important to me. I know that he is the type of person that recognizes that what he's doing right now is not appropriate, which is why I think he is staying away. I know his patterns and I know he has remained friends with ex's in the past. The fact that he's shutting me out is unusual, particularly considering how close we were. That is why I know it's not normal behavior, at least for him. That is why it scares me, because I love him, and I know he's hurting too.

I DO think that he is extremely confused and isn't intending to hurt me at all. This is all very new to him, and to us. I think the ability to process stress with grace also has a lot of it also has to do with age. He's going on 22. When we fell in love age didn't seem to matter. Now that he's trying to handle an emotional crisis, I can definitely tell a difference in his strength and others closer to my age.

Not sure what else to say right now... trying to defend why I love him and why I want to support him has made me very emotional. Plus, have to get ready for my weekend p/t job. Later then...
 
Not sure what else to say right now... trying to defend why I love him and why I want to support him

Molly, you have every right to feel the way you feel and sort through your own reasonings and actions and responsibilities. That is the beauty of our lives and something we all at some point harshly have to come to recognize when faced with loving someone with this disorder that the outside world of friends do not understand or have compassion for.

You are responsible for how you handle how you take on your relationship with your sufferer but I encourage you to always be sure, even if checking yourself once a day, that your motives are souly to protect and take care of yourself to the best of your ability. The only way one can maintain and be of healthy support to a friend, a lover, whatever is to stay centered and being sure we pay ourselves with love and respect first and then apply that to our personal boundaries of how we expect to be treated from anyone.

Take care of you. Love your sufferer. You don't need to defend that my dear... this is a safe place and I can't tell you how many days I feel like I got control of my feelings and the next day feel like a hypocrite and like I'm losing it.You will never be judged here for doing so. It's a crazy rollercoaster loving someone with PTSD. We are here to support each other as well as learn what we can from each other's experiences be it having to walk away, deal with isolation, break downs, medical response, etc.

You try to enjoy your weekend! Do something wonderful for yourself!!! ((((MOLLY ANNE))))
 
May, thank you so much for that response. I admit earlier I wasn't doing well and it was hard to hear some of what you had to say... but while at work I took time to contemplate it and I got angry with him and realized that you're right - there are certain behaviors he's exhibiting that aren't kind - or are purely inconsiderate. Again, I think immaturity plays a factor, but he should still know that if he makes a promise to support someone, he should at least answer the phone, or text back... DO SOMETHING!

Beyond that, I'm doing the best to just feel good about me and understand what's going on. I actually got into a huge argument with my mom tonight because she thinks I'm pouring all my energy into HIM because I want to understand what's going on... but in reality, I'm just the type of person that needs to understand something to feel better about it. To me, my primary goal in understanding PTSD might even be considered greedy - I want to know what's going on so that I can feel better - it's no so much about helping him, as it is about helping myself. IF he should return, I'll be happy to help him with whatever he needs, but at this point in time, my way of helping me is to learn. At the end of an hour-long call mom was finally able to say she's glad I'm educating myself and that I'm really more ahead of the game than she realized.

I think what she hadn't realized is how deeply involved we were... because as our parents' children we tend to call home to complain. We like to reach out to Mom when something goes wrong - when we need a cheerleader in our corner. So, she didn't know all of the gory details about how much we loved each other and the secrets that we shared. Then, when something goes wrong, out comes the mother bear instinct! It's important to me that my mom understand what's going on in my life so she can direct her frustrations at B for being inconsiderate, rather than continuing to ask me "Why can't you choose the right men?!"

Anyway....... bottom line is, it was a rough evening... but I'm recovering. Thanks for all... (((May)))
 
I feel like I kind of asserted myself this morning - well, in a very mild sense. I sent him a text saying "I know it may seem awkward, but I'd like to have a cup of coffee and chat with you for a bit. Don't want to fuss or complain at all, just talk as friends. Let me know."

It was mostly for me really. What I need at this point is communication and I feel that is something that he should be able to deliver... whether this were a PTSD situation, or not! So, I feel that asking for that is not inappropriate. At least I'm learning, with help, what boundaries should be and can be. I recognize that he probably won't respond - but at least I've asserted my needs. I shouldn't have to feel guilty about contacting him if it's from a healthy place. Yay, let's hear it for progress!!
 
I actually got into a huge argument with my mom tonight because she thinks I'm pouring all my energy into HIM because I want to understand what's going on... but in reality, I'm just the type of person that needs to understand something to feel better about it.

Totally the same type... and good for you to take this on now! 'If I only knew what I knew then...' :oops: So many of my relationships would have been different or have not have been because I would have known better.

As for mom's they tend to fear what they A) don't know, and B) get super angry and protective when it is making us cry.

Oh the wonders I've accomplished over the last 10 years with my folks since my marriage to a military man and divorce.
1- Had I known more about myself, my choices and reasons leading into that relationship may have DEFINITELY been different but that is just being 19.
2- Had I had any experience or family knowledge of PTSD - mental illness - or even how a physical disability can affect your mind - or respect for it, acceptance of learning and educating about it, or respect for therapy, my relationship may have been different
3- If I hadn't leargone through then, or some of my other experiences, this whole recent relationship would've been the exact same, I would've continued spiraling out of confusion, anger and hurt, and I wouldn't have had anything to add to my understanding which has in a crazy fast way helped me better ME and rubbed off even more on my loved ones including sufferer.

I didn't speak to my parents for 3 months after my marriage ended. And after that, it was little by little for almost a year speaking to them and before I saw them again. They were never on my side, they always put me down and that followed when I finally told everyone to 'drop dead' and I asked for a divorce. Their voice and mind set began to change when they realized that NOT talking to me was worse than not agreeing with me and we've since had a handful of arguments vs. arguing every time we talked, and they are my biggest supporters/friends/protectors and the most understanding people I never EVER thought they would be. God I love them!!! :inlove:

We can't blame those for what they don't know and how they handle things, we can only take responsibility for ourselves and what we need in order to work for ourselves. Building boundaries and standing our ground. If behaviour from ANYONE is unacceptable, you have every right to say it. It's also within your control and YOUR timeline when you want to discuss it, if it's worth discussing, or how you approach it. It's all a learning and practice process but the more you solidify what is important to you and just stand true to that while working on lessening the reaction to someone elses criticism (be it naive or educated), the better your life will get. You may lose some people who are not up to the challenge but I truly believe that if they love us, are also open to learning and trying new things, you will see their improvement and will have done nothing to add to it but loving yourself above and beyond someone else opinion.

I say all this from lessons I'm STILL learning and now that I actually can see it and feel it... it is awesome!!! Not always easy... nothing is. But good for you for taking care of you and standing up for you and having the patience with your mother as well as understanding that she still is growing too. :D

I wish you the utmost luck on your journey and with communicating with your ex if that is in your cards. ((((MOLLY))))
 
YAY!!! :):tup:

I've pretty much come to the conclusion 'I NEEEEED my mom.' She has truly become my best friend in my older age and I have to recognize how amazingly lucky I am :inlove:
 
My mom and I went through a rough spell from say, 5th grade through 12th grade. Yeah... hard to believe she never kicked me out of the house or burned it down with us both in it. But... we made it, and she is definitely my best friend. That's why I depend on her so much. But even my new T says I have to be careful of her "momma bear" instinct and choose wisely what to discuss with her. Would be easier if I had more 3D friends - but this site has made this particular leg of my journey easier too. Yay :)
 
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