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diggin,

Are we sure we aren't dating the same Veteran? I get it, I truly do. I've had the same conversations, waited through the same silences, rejoiced through the same assurances and suffered through the same heartbreaks. I wish I had some words of wisdom. I don't, but I understand. And I'm sorry. It sucks. Hang in there and make the best decisions you can.

We're listening when you need to vent.

Red
 
...W and I had a very positive phone conversation. He's been dealing with some very legit stress (on top of the PTSD) and we were able to talk about it very openly. He then asked me if there was anything on my mind that I wanted to share... to include his living arrangements next year. So I was feeling very assured FOR ONCE in 6 months. Now, silence. A f*cking week of silence. Not altogether too unusual but it just sucks and makes me wonder if I am holding on to an apparition.

Diggin,

A view from my own experience on the other side of that fence:

I have been crushed, just crushed with stress during the last year. Economic down-turn bringing my businesses income down 3/4. Having to lay off most of my employees and because these people are within my sphere of influence I feel it double, one as the boss, the other as a friend. But long story short, that stress, plus the fact that my honey was unemployed so I have had to prop her up as well....f*cking hell. Anyway, I froze. It was next to impossible for me to do anything. Now lets add relationship stress into the mix and I just could not handle it at all.

It would piss me right off if T did not call me. But would I call her? Sometimes, but usually not. Then when we would talk, I could tell she wanted me to talk about stuff, but my "Suck it the f*ck Up," would kick in an I would not say anything because I did not want to lay all that stuff on here—I am the man, I am supposed to be the rock, blah, blah, blah... So instead I said, Yep, Yes, Nope, No. One or two syllable words and our phone calls would be mostly silence.

Her stress mattered to me, but when she would lay it on me...well my reaction was to get pissed off. Why? Couldn't she see that I was buried with stress? Do I really need more? Can't she read my goddamn mind!? Of course she couldn't and I wasn't talking about it. Nasty, evil, circle of doom. In the end, I wanted to call it off. But she preempted me. And that is when my house fell in. I finally broke. I found this site. I started looking for therapy. I really tried to get her back. Thank God she gave me a second chance. Because. Well to be honest, if she hadn't I am not sure that I would be here right now...It may have been too much for me to take.

Not knowing you two or your relationship very well. Here is my read. He is buried in a literal pile of shit and is trying his damnedest to dig out. However, inside the pile, he can't see out, it is dark and he does not know which direction to dig. The fact that he is talking to you about the future means that he still believes that there is a future. However, the guilt, pain, stress of that may have him digging in the wrong direction! (Note: Yes the digging is a reference to your handle :p)

As for you talking to your friends. Well again, this is my own experience so don't take it for wrote. Humans are social creatures. Our relationships are made stronger (or weaker) by our friends. As you can't/don't talk to your friends about it. They only see the pile of shit occasionally walking around with you. And nobody wants to be around that. They just want you to be okay. So of course their reaction is to tell you to cut bait. In my world, the Lizard on my shoulder told me not to talk to my friends. That they didn't want to hear my problems. That even if they did want to hear it, they would not be able to do anything about it...so why tell them. But when my house fell in. I had no choice. I could not help my self out, I HAD to hold out my hand and ask for help. Guess what? All of my friends were there. All of them. Even the ones that were telling me to cut bait. Even the ones who had distanced themselves from me came to my aid. They were there and once I told them what was really going on, they wanted to help and their attitude changed regarding my relationship (both on my end and her end). All you people here were here for me. It f*cking blew my mind. It made me feel like a complete idiot too. All those years of sucking it the f*ck up and listening to the Lizard....

Anyway, my advice to you is to talk to your friends. Tell them what is going on. As you can't really understand what he is going through, they are not either. Although they can in concept at least. And that is what matters. I am about to sound like a political TV ad, but here goes. It takes a village. PTSD is not something that can be dealt with alone. It takes our spouses, our children, our friends, therapists, and our governments to deal with it.

Keep being there for W. He sounds like he is digging hard, but can just keep his head out right now. Talk to him when you can. Listen to him when he talks. Hold him when he is not too prickly. Give him some space when he needs it.

Now I have to go back to digging out of my own pile. >>pinches nose and dives in<<
 
Thank you , Fargo, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking response. I am going into shutdown mode a bit today myself, but your words are very helpful. Forgive my whining, but it just sucks when I feel alone already and then the man I love makes me feel even more alone. I'm signing off the computer and keeping my cell off- best not to talk to W when I am in this mood anyway.
 
Nothing to forgive! Whine, bitch, gripe, complain all you want. It has to come out. Here it is safe, and we are all doing it.

On my end, I am just trying to help, and also when I admit to some of the shit that I have done myself, I am getting mine out too.

Hope you had a good time off.
 
I don't know if this is a rant or venting or just what...I just can not win, I can't even break even. I am so tired of being pushed away and all my love and feelings thrown back in my face. At least when he is numb HE can't feel ANYTHING! I lost my head yesterday and hinted that he was with someone else. That was really stupid of me I know. Maybe he's right and he would be better off without me.
, I don't know. He's just been do cold and rude to me that I guess I was desperate and I knew pissing him off would at least.make him talk. (scream, cuss, threaten)omg I hate myself and my stupid temper!

He tells me everything that goes wrong with us is my fault, and when I beg him to tell me what I did, he compares me to a child and tells me he has told me over and over and he will not tell me again. but I swear he has not told me at all what I had done wrong. (this was before the semi-accusing text) I need to know so I don't do it again. All I know is that I am hurting and crying and I miss my love.

I feel so dumb, like he says, maybe I am just a spoiled brat that needs to grow up. There are people in the world who are really suffering and I'm just whining...but this.really.really.hurts, I feel like I'm being torn to pieces from my heart out.

I can't talk to my family, don't really have any friends that are close enough to share with. I feel so alone and vulnerable.
 
I am sorry you are going through such a terrible time Steph, I cant say sorry enough I think if he is like me he is scared to open his heart to anybody, its one of the last things thats whole, so it makes it difficult to open it up, the other is we don't want that incredible love because we feel we don't deserve it, because of what we have seen and done. In all truth he does deserve it and so do you so my only hope is that he finds the help he needs to see this. And you are not whining, you have needs just like he does. Take care Steph and sorry for my rambling
 
hunny,sorryI'm too flaky to think straight and be of much use at the moment,but your"tell me what I'm doing wrong so we can fix things.." convo....I've had that a thousand times before I figured out that usualy......Its not me....things often got thrown onto me when other stresses were bringing him down and now when he is in that mood I just ask the once if I can change anything and if he says No or starts to rant that its all my faultetc I just leave him be,carry on as normal,nice as pie,no one can hate you for being nice...right? Sometimes it can take a few days for mr nice to reappear,dont usualy get an apology,I just survive on the relief that mr nice is back...Its confusing and lonely and hurts like hell,but you need to try and STOP thinking its you doing stuff wrong or it will just destroy your self confidence and he will..in that mood...use it as justification to despise you as weak.Grow an extra inch on that Rhino hide and dig in,bunker down til mr nice comes out to play. Hugs hunny.X
 
My experience is the same as Sue's. Develop that Rhino skin! :tup:
A tricky little lesson to learn but much more effective than trying to win (coz you never will) is to swallow your ego and recognise when to say nothing. Carry on being the nice 'real' you, stress is reduced, things are easier!

Be gentle with yourself. x
 
Steph,

I'm so sorry. You have friends here and if I'd read your post last night, I'd have called you.

I guess I'm lucky because we never fought or argued, he just isolated when it became too much. I think I'd rather have fought it out and gotten through it together but he'd just disappear. The stress from his business, ex and kids is extremely high and it is probably amazing that he let me in at all. I think what nomedic said,

we don't want that incredible love because we feel we don't deserve it, because of what we have seen and done.

is what my Veteran feels. Maybe I was too free with my love and my expressions of love and it overwhelmed him. I don't know. I wish he could tell me. I would have adjusted if only I'd known what he needed.

Much love to you Steph. You are not alone.

Red
 
having a few amazingly positive few days with my guy taking some control and responsibility back only to find another situation realy annoying,got someone telling me i'm wrong about something because they misinterpreted my words and now cant undo that conception in thier head enough to try to understand where I am coming from...talking to them is fuelling the flames so I'm just going to let it lie and see what pans out...shame though because the knock on effect of this person not being able to say" hang on a minute, could any of this actualy be my fault ,did I understand,how can we resolve this? " could ultimately bring misery to a lot of people....
 
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