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How do you cope with long term suicidal ideation?

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Wisdomhunter

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Since my early teens I have struggled with thoughts of ending it all, not wanting to be here, wishing I could just die. I actually used to pray every night that I could die before I even discovered that people actually ended their own lives. I remember clearly, when a friend told about someone who had taken their own life, the mixed sense I felt of shock that people killed themselves and hope that there was actually a way out for me. I was around 14 at the time. Since then I don’t think I’ve had a single day when I have actually wanted to be here and I’ve always felt that this is how my life will end. That’s over 35 years. Somewhere over the years I decided that I only had to hang on for as long as my Mum was alive. I just couldn’t do that to her, I lived with her my whole life and we were very close. It was just the two of us for 28 years after my Dad died as my siblings were all married or living elsewhere. They are all a lot older than me. I had a clear plan of how I would end my life and everything ready in case my Mum died suddenly and I had to act so that we would just be found together. Terrible, I know. There have been so many times of depression and anxiety over the years where the urge to just end it all became overwhelming and I really struggled. I did see a Christian therapist for a while several years ago and tried to talk to her about suicidal thoughts, but every time I brought it up she just said a prayer and then changed the subject. It seemed like it wasn’t something we should talk about and it felt like that was validating my own feeling that it didn’t matter so I stopped going. I have seen psychologists at times for assessments for chronic pain programmes and also when I needed some help for a phobia I have. Of course they always ask if you ever think of ending it all, but then because I said I had no immediate plans they didn’t say any more about it. I didn’t feel I could tell anyone because I thought I was the only one who never stopped wishing they could end it all and how do you explain that to anyone? Since I came to this site have read some diaries and learned that there are people who have dealt with this and I’m not the only one.

Well, my Mum passed away in 2018. I had been her carer for the last 6 years of her life but she was diagnosed with cancer and died at home a few months later. It was an awful time but we also had some very special times together talking, nothing was left unsaid which I know is a precious privilege. She expressed so much of how she wanted my life to be after she was gone and I made a promise to her that I would live in a way that would make her proud of me. It felt like the right thing to do at the time and in that situation although I have often doubted it since! When she finally died we had known it was coming so the family were all around and I wasn’t alone until after the funeral. I thought I could hold onto my promise to Mum to live well and that it was good I wasn’t alone.

It’s been 20 months now though and this battle has been relentless and I’m just worn down by it. I found another therapist who is wonderful, she is a trauma therapist although I originally started seeing her because there were some traumatic things around my Mum’s final illness and I was struggling with a lot of flashbacks. I told her early on about how long I have been dealing with suicidal thoughts and was very honest with her. She has been so supportive and certainly doesn’t ignore it. I can tell her when it’s a real battle and she makes me promise to come back the following week. She said she believes it’s s fragmented emotional part of me that wants to die and it certainly feels like something tries to take over at times which is scary. I don’t have anyone else I can talk to or ask for support when it is hard. I love my family but I can’t talk to them, that’s just a bit complicated! I do have a church - I actually work part time in my church, but there’s no one I can talk to there either. Our pastor’s family suffered a suicide loss just after Mum died and it’s been a difficult time in the church for various reasons. Also being Mum’s carer for so many years meant I became quite isolated and a lot of friends moved on. I did have one friend who I told, just that I was having a struggle with thoughts of ending it all, but although she was supportive for a while she has distanced herself in the past several months and that has been so difficult to deal with I can’t take the risk of it happening again if I try to tell someone else. Nothing happened between us so I guess she just didn’t want to deal with it.

It feels like I had a safety net when Mum was here and I’m desperately trying to find another one. I’m sorry this post is so long. I just wondered what helps people hang on to life when you are always fighting the desire to be gone?
 
I've been dealing with suicidality for the better part of 20 years. I still have moments when it goes "active" and I have to take special precautions that I don't act on the thoughts or feelings. After lots of years of therapy and self-care, I can keep it pretty passive, although there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of how my death will solve so many problems! Some things that keep me moving forward in life are:

1) Goals. I have things I want to accomplish in life before I die. Mostly, I just want to prove the naysayers wrong about what I can accomplish, but its all about whatever gets you out of bed in the morning.

2) I look for the little moments of goodness. It could be the smell of a flower, a sunset, a great Martial Arts class, a good book, a funny movie, a fun social outing, or meeting a new person who actually "gets me". Basically, it took me years to be able to see little moments of goodness in life, and I pay attention to those.

3) Staying present and mindful. I've learned to actually move into my moments of suicidality and become very familiar and aware of the feelings when they intrude. I've almost befriended them, so I'm not afraid of it anymore. It's just part of my existence as an autistic adult with PTSD.

4) Rules with myself. I have a list of rules that I came up with. These rules are unbreakable to me, and they keep me safe. Things like, locking my weapons up when I'm actively suicidal, and letting the thoughts run WITHOUT ACTING on any of it. I know if I just breathe through the feelings, eventually I'll come to a better place as long as I don't act on anything.

5) Coping skills/strategies. There are things I do that bring me to a better place mentally when I'm struggling, and I'll actively engage in those activities. Time spent with my therapy horses, making sure my diet is good, working out, talking to the few friends I have, or emailing my therapist (who has a long history of dealing with his own suicidality, so he KNOWS what I'm going through, and is very supportive). If I'm having a really bad day I've finally reached a point where I can let people know, and hole up to take care of myself as I need to.

Its taken YEARS of doggedly working on this issue. While I will always have days of active suicidality, and I don't have a single day where I wouldn't welcome my death with open arms, I have finally come to a place of peace with my life-experiences and can even have days where I ENJOY my life. It's taken time, concentrated effort, and finding the right therapist/people/activities to change my perspectives. Yes, I've lost people because they couldn't handle what I deal with, but that just means they weren't people meant to be in my life. I have a specific path that is my own, and I walk it as I need to. If someone else comes along to join me for a mile or two, I welcome the experience.

Good luck on finding peace on your journey.
 
Hi. Im touched and I have had a similar experience for different reasons. But the reason isn't important. I'm happy now if that's what you wanna call it lol. Im correctly medicated is what it comes down to. Self soothing.

But I wanna tell you that you can feel better. I'm lonely too and I can't really tell anyone that I'm how I am. That is what replaced I wanna kill myself which I call "suicidal depression".

And I know what your saying which is, I feel this always and it is terrible to struggle with it.

I know and you're right.

But also along with learning how to soothe I've done like tons of trauma therapy and I have been able pretty much to figure out what was wrong. It's still wrong I can't fix it. I can work with it though.

I don't wanna say do this or that or I did.this or that? I just wanna say I feel better enough to go along. We go to church too. You can't tell them even though you should be able to. You aren't alone though I know it's lonely. I hope writing helps you? It helps me. : )
 
I agree with both above, but I wanted to add that suicidal thoughts are thoughts. If you wait they will lessen. I was suicidal for years, and sometimes I am still that way, but I have found things I want to do that I plan for, and now after many years, have 2 friends, almost 3! As @Eagle3 said, I wouldn't be upset if I were dying. I had surgery for cancer in December, and I am in remission, but everyone was shocked at how well I was handling it. It was just I was ok with dying, because I try to heal every day.

I stopped being actively suicidal when my brother suicided. I loved him so much and it was final. He was gone. That changed my mind quickly. I know not wanting to won't stop the thoughts, but as you get better, like @Mach123 said, they get better. I hope to see you around on the forums.
 
Thank you for these replies, I can’t express what it feels like to write about this and be met with understanding and support. It’s such a lonely existence when you can’t share the extent of your suffering with the people in your life so I’m glad I have found this forum.
 
I could have written your post, down to the hearing when you were younger about suicide from a friend. I was around 14, too. I was suicidal daily, for years. Until fairly recently, actually. So 40+ years. It's a horrible way to live and I'm sorry you are struggling so.

My mom is also my safety valve, but I also have my cats. I have come to understand that, since they are solely dependent on me and how *I* am, I have to stick around for them. It would hurt them immensely if I were just gone. Animals become attached and the love and care you feel is mutual.

Do I feel better since I realized all that? Well...sometimes. But sometimes having to stay feels like an incredible burden. Thing is, though, I'm kind of forced to find stuff that will help me get through the day with the least amount of suffering. Gradually, I've been able to do that. Some of the time anyway.

Is it worth it? Sometimes I think so. Sometimes not.
 
I got a new budgie (parakeet) soon after I lost my Mum and he has been my reason to keep going many times in the past year! It is a responsibility and I knew that when I got him. I know he would be well looked after if I wasn’t here but he’s so attached to me it would be hard for him to adjust to living with someone else and I remind myself of that often. His name is Pedro and he is so cute and funny he can make me smile even on the worst days. I know there are people in my life who would be terribly hurt if anything happened to me, especially if I did it to myself and I must hold on for them too. I just get so tired of living for the sake of other people. If it wasn’t for that I wouldn’t be here. My therapist says I have to find reasons for living for myself but after a lifetime of wishing I could just die it feels like there’s nothing that could be a good enough reason to live for another 30 or 40 years. At the moment I’m trying to keep going with the simple things that help me - playing with Pedro, working in the garden, watching my fish swimming in the pond, walking, listening to calming music.. Hopefully if I keep doing the ‘right’ things better days will come eventually!
 
playing with Pedro, working in the garden, watching my fish swimming in the pond, walking, listening to calming music.. Hopefully if I keep doing the ‘right’ things better days will come eventually!

I think it will. I play with my chickens, work in the garden, listen to music and audiobooks, and I feel I have a good life. I'm sorry you are suffering, and I hope some peace comes soon.
 
I've been dealing with suicidality for the better part of 20 years. I still have moments when it goes "active" and I have to take special precautions that I don't act on the thoughts or feelings. After lots of years of therapy and self-care, I can keep it pretty passive, although there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of how my death will solve so many problems! Some things that keep me moving forward in life are:

1) Goals. I have things I want to accomplish in life before I die. Mostly, I just want to prove the naysayers wrong about what I can accomplish, but its all about whatever gets you out of bed in the morning.

2) I look for the little moments of goodness. It could be the smell of a flower, a sunset, a great Martial Arts class, a good book, a funny movie, a fun social outing, or meeting a new person who actually "gets me". Basically, it took me years to be able to see little moments of goodness in life, and I pay attention to those.

3) Staying present and mindful. I've learned to actually move into my moments of suicidality and become very familiar and aware of the feelings when they intrude. I've almost befriended them, so I'm not afraid of it anymore. It's just part of my existence as an autistic adult with PTSD.

4) Rules with myself. I have a list of rules that I came up with. These rules are unbreakable to me, and they keep me safe. Things like, locking my weapons up when I'm actively suicidal, and letting the thoughts run WITHOUT ACTING on any of it. I know if I just breathe through the feelings, eventually I'll come to a better place as long as I don't act on anything.

5) Coping skills/strategies. There are things I do that bring me to a better place mentally when I'm struggling, and I'll actively engage in those activities. Time spent with my therapy horses, making sure my diet is good, working out, talking to the few friends I have, or emailing my therapist (who has a long history of dealing with his own suicidality, so he KNOWS what I'm going through, and is very supportive). If I'm having a really bad day I've finally reached a point where I can let people know, and hole up to take care of myself as I need to.

Its taken YEARS of doggedly working on this issue. While I will always have days of active suicidality, and I don't have a single day where I wouldn't welcome my death with open arms, I have finally come to a place of peace with my life-experiences and can even have days where I ENJOY my life. It's taken time, concentrated effort, and finding the right therapist/people/activities to change my perspectives. Yes, I've lost people because they couldn't handle what I deal with, but that just means they weren't people meant to be in my life. I have a specific path that is my own, and I walk it as I need to. If someone else comes along to join me for a mile or two, I welcome the experience.

Good luck on finding peace on your journey.

Thank you so much for the way you replied. It feels calming to see a list of things that you do. I went through a heavy suicidal evening yesterday and it felt like a pile of rocks hitting me out of nowhere. Plus I felt guilty because my partner was around. I like that you mentioned using little things to climb out of that state, eg finding little things to be happy about (I will do this today). I will show your reply to my husband. May be I will make a list of things I did right yesterday, since today I am still here.

1. I cried and let myself cry
2. I told my partner about my suicidality even if I felt guilty.
3. I was very careful with knives and put them out of sight when I wanted to cut myself.
4. I took a shower and not a bath, so no drowning
5. I posted about it to a small instagram group, so it was even more in the open, even if the person who replied didn't say the "right" things. I just felt better sharing about it with a larger audience.
6. I didn't take antianxiety drugs such as adavan. My partner looked it up and it was linked to suicidality.
7. I changed clothes.
8. I slept and stayed in bed and eventually slept even if I woke up a few times.
9. I paid attention to how I felt in my body and if I felt nauseous from being inside my body, I rubbed my limbs to feel them.
10. I am writing this list right now which is helping tremendously. Knowing that people will may be read it and that someone will care and may be find it useful for themselves.

I need to learn to prevent sinking so much. It's going to be my 4th year of emdr therapy this year and at times it feels like I just started. I have cPTSD which is getting better. It's just I wish my pain subsided sooner than later.
 
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