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How The Nhs Treats Its Veterans

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Most important thing is to have a doc that will work with you, listen and change the meds and dosages until he finds what is right.

What ever you do, ask questions and query everything, and don`t settle for, "Because thats how I work" attitude.

and if you need to get anything off your chest or are at a lost end PM me.
 
Again, thank you.

you just sparked my memory. I went to docs early last year to say I need help again, after battling alone since leaving the army. I was drinking allot to be fair, but the prick just went, "don't you think you should just try and stop drinking?" and said he would refer me to alcohol services! He never did. I had to ring NHS services and get it done myself. So I switched to weed and went to NHS :p.

I'll ask for another doc, I've got one in mind. RBL is my first port of call then mate.

I owe allot to you lot on this site, I'm still hurting like mad, but you've all helped me wake up.
 
I went to docs early last year to say I need help again, after battling alone since leaving the army. I was drinking allot to be fair, but the prick just went, "don't you think you should just try and stop drinking?" and said he would refer me to alcohol services! He never did. I had to ring NHS services and get it done myself. So I switched to weed and went to NHS :p.
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I was on herrick 13 mate so you must have been coming home as i was arriving. The meds didnt mix well with me im afraid so my advice is just to be careful and give them some time to work, I was slipping and getting worse so they switched to fluoxitine (prozac). I get it with the bud lol, for me MJ is like a nice break from the stress and it does work, I have invested in a volcano as now I dont need to use tobacco and it removes many of the health risks.

Everyone has their own opinions on it, I personally believe marijuana is no where near as damaging as alcohol and with self control can be managed without a problem. Iv cut down massively and the vape makes a little bit go a long way, Ill only use it in the late evenings now and the amount i use is less than half i would in a joint (and you get higher) so if you want to stick with the bud i suggest getting vape. If you start with the wake an bake BS its time to cut down. Iv been there lol, its fun for a while but life starts to pass you by.

The beauty of going with combat stress is that they assign you a welfare officer that completes your claim for you, and they said to me they would even take it to tribunal if required. Im sure the RBL can do the same. Dont think for one minute claiming this is something to be ashamed off. You have fought for your country and now have to live with the consequences, financial reimbursement is the least the government can do.

My problem with the NHS was that they actively prevented me from getting a formal diagnosis, their excuse was that they could treat the problem without it and it was a waste of time. They still have yet to commence any treatment with me to this day, and i only achieved this status by contacting Combat Stress myself. They managed to do it in 20 mins.
 
If you start with the wake an bake BS its time to cut down. Iv been there lol, its fun for a while but life starts to pass you by.

The beauty of going with combat stress is that they assign you a welfare officer that completes your claim for you, and they said to me they would even take it to tribunal if required. Im sure the RBL can do the same. Dont think for one minute claiming this is something to be ashamed off. You have fought for your country and now have to live with the consequences, financial reimbursement is the least the government can do.

I was well and truly a piss head by the time you hit Helmand, I was on Herrick 11 :ROFLMAO:. I have done the wake and bake for the last year after finding a constant source of supply, at least I was able to ditch alcohol. Been of it all now for 1.5 weeks, my nut is playing up already. Going to Docs soon as, going to try Citalopram, if he gives it to me, I've only been in there once and I won't be seeing the same prick I saw last time.

I'll give the meds time, tried my hardest to stay away from them, mainly due to stigma. But sod it, I've had enough of feeling like a stranger in this world. Already a stranger as a southerner in Hull :cautious:. I like it up here really.

Good point about the compo, it is an injury of sorts, but again the stigma thing comes in, if people can't see it...Hopefully RBL will help me out with that then. Did you have to pin the ptsd to one specific incident? I can, but I feel multiple incidents got me in this state. There's two stand out incidents.

Vaporizer and MJ, making my mouth water.....staying strong haha. But it is an instant fix, albeit a mask for me.

I really need to change my name to Dan on here, Dark matter is doing my head in too!
 
Good point about the compo, it is an injury of sorts, but again the stigma thing comes in, if people can't see it...Hopefully RBL will help me out with that then. Did you have to pin the ptsd to one specific incident? I can, but I feel multiple incidents got me in this state. There's two stand out incidents.

Vaporizer and MJ, making my mouth water.....staying strong haha. But it is an instant fix, albeit a mask for me.

thats how I see it, i describe it as a nice holiday from the reality, plus i enjoy it just as much as anyone else does.

I am exactly the same, there are numerous events in my mind that still sit with me today, but theyll isolate a couple of the worse ones for you and use those as examples. Combat stress literally do it all for you, they know exactly what they need from you.

Its fantastic you ditched the booze, Alcohol is by far more harmful to you physically and mentally. I find it absurd drugs such as MDMA and Cannabis are illegal when society see's alcohol as acceptable.

Stop worrying about the stigma and how people will perceive you, just focus on yourself and getting better.
 
thats how I see it, i describe it as a nice holiday from the reality, plus i enjoy it just as much as anyone else does.

I am exactly the same, there are numerous events in my mind that still sit with me today, but theyll isolate a couple of the worse ones for you and use those as examples. Combat stress literally do it all for you, they know exactly what they need from you.

Its fantastic you ditched the booze, Alcohol is by far more harmful to you physically and mentally. I find it absurd drugs such as MDMA and Cannabis are illegal when society see's alcohol as acceptable.

Stop worrying about the stigma and how people will perceive you, just focus on yourself and getting better.

If there are people to do the leg work, then compo will make my life better for a bit! I found alcohol easy to ditch when I got cannabis, but I kicked the ass out of it. I could spend £80 on a bad week, there wasn't much point in working, other than to fuel my obsession with it. I enjoyed it, but abused it, like alcohol.

I agree, alcohol is an absolute shocker of a drug.

I'm allot better at admitting my issues now, most people around me understand and that's all that matters, everyone else who differs can swivel.

MDMA? you on the rave seen now then?:ROFLMAO:
 
True, that's always been the argument.

Live ecstasy trial was on tv not that long ago, not really sure what they learnt, but you got to see Keith Allen of his tits.
 
Today after 2 years of battling against the NHS I finally was given a formal diagnosis for PTSD, I feel I should share my experiences for other British Veterans who may be tempted to put a little faith in our healthcare system.

I went to see my GP within months of discharging back in spring 2011, I told him I was having problems and that I believed them to be a result of my experiences in Afghanistan in 2010. I was displaying all the classic symptoms; irritability, hyper-vigilance, nightmares etc etc. He prescribed me Citalopram and sent me on my way, saying he would refer me to the local mental health unit. The Citalopram made me feel considerably worse, I was having huge mood swings and i was a very difficult person to be around. Then for the first time I felt suicidal. I went back to my GP with these further problems 6 months after my initial appointment. I'd had no contact from the mental health unit at all. I was taken of citalopram and prescribed sertraline and was assured my refferral would be chased up.

My situation deterioted more and I ended up having to stop working and moved back in with my family. At this point as i moved "out of area" (20 mins away) I was told I had to register with a new GP. So a 18 months after first going to the NHS with symptoms of PTSD I was told I needed to restart the whole process with a different mental health unit. My new GP was very supportive and called the local unit on my behalf explaining as a veteran I must not be put on a waiting list (unlike the previous mental health unit, we shall get back to them later).

I went to an appointment at the mental health unit where i learned i was seeing a counseller, not a psychiatrist (needed for a formal diagnosis). I was assured a diagnosis was not neccessary and i could begin treatment with a team that worked specifically with Veterans (VRMHP). I received a phonecall 2 months ago inviting me to an assessment which took place 80 miles away from my home (after being told this was a service operating 10 miles away).

So off i went to my appointment thinking finally we have the ball rolling and things can start to get better. I should also point out I had been taken off sertraline for having problems even worse than on citalopram and i was a suicide risk again, next up fluoxetine. I had my assessment which was quite unpleasent, then i was told that it was an informal service and no diagnosis was needed for treatment. But as we all know......with no diagnosis...no war pension/compo watever you want to call it. Im sure you wont be shocked to learn VRMHP is backed by the MOD. But none the less i was not about to refuse treatment. I was told i would get a phonecall on their decision to take me on in the next 7 days, which i did receive and was told they were organising a group session, but they had to confirm a venue. TO THIS DAY I HAVE HEARD NOTHING.

So last month i decided to call back combat stress, who had previously offered their services but i turned them down as i could not commit to their residential programmes due to work and it was too far for outpatient appointments. I was initially told i would have to wait till june, but then was called back saying they could get me in for an assessment today at 10am.

So I drove down to Audley Court in shropshire. The first thing that struck me was how peaceful the whole place was. Being born and bred in the city im not used to the lack of background noise and i found it quite soothing, this was before id even walked in the door. As i went into reception I was greeted with smiles and I didnt even have to introduce myself. After refusing cups of tea from 5 different people i was greeted by the psychiatrist that was going to conduct my assessment and shown to a room where I explained what id been going through and how it was affecting myself and those around me. The whole thing was wrapped up in 30 mins, after which i was told without a doubt i was sufferring from PTSD and a formal diagnosis would be sent to my GP and be stored on my medical records. I then was told about the programmes and treatment they offer, sat down with a very pretty psychologist for a chat, and was back on the road by midday. I urge british vets to use combat stress instead of the NHS services. I was treated with so much respect and care. For the first time I felt i was infront of people that actually gave a shit about how i was feeling and understood my combat experience.

Im going to attend a 2 week residential programme in june/july and they are sending welfare officers out to see me in the meantime to talk about financial support. I know this has been a long winded post but i hope other British Vets see this and can get the help they deserve. I know hold Combat Stress in such high regard and I am so thankful to everyone at Audley Court for letting me know im not alone.

apologies for spelling/grammar.
hi my history was i first diagnosed in 97 by a dr. d. jones with gulf war syndrome and ptsd, then i was interviewed by a dr. from pensions who diagnosed combat ptsd. what narked me the most was i never knew what it was all about as id thought i was loosing my mind and at the beginning was doing everything wrong. i started to look it up on the internet which made a hell of a lot of sense. i sought out combat stress 5 years later which i was told i needed a referral from my gp to which he refused and put me intouch with the clinics councellor after a year i was getting knowhere as it was chat. then (hollybush) combat stress took me on. this was real eye opener for me as i felt like i belonged there and made me realise i wasnt going mad. the only problem wwas everyone was on medication for their condition, where as i had been self medicating for years as my gp said "ptsd is a common as a cold", i replied "that i wished it was like a cold at least a cold goes away".
he then referred to the local hospital psychiatrict ward which was alwayspsychiatrict foreigner that could barely speak english and having to explain my condition was hard work and started taking meds, then come back in 3 months to which i was met by a different foreigner where having to explain my circumstances again and given yet more meds. the meds were pure shit and was still drinking and pufing for by. then i met this french dr. who put me on even more meds to which i ended up on 8 different meds that never really done anyone for me. evertime i returned the dosages were being constantly put up, i kept on saying the meds are shit. then next time went to see him was talking about upping them again, i said "dont you understand there not working" and snapped and told him"to stick his meds up his arse"
i therefore neary killed myself by detoxing 8 high dosage meds over 4 weeks and left myself in a pretty vunerable state. i eventually sorted a psychiatrist who id met at hollybush who not only dealt in a addictions but was also very clued up on ptsd. for the first time in years i was put 5 really good meds which really had a big impact on me. plus he wasent foreign and wass easily understandable. he taught alot about my condition, even drawing diagrams. i could present him with the most absurd sympton and everytime he had a medical term.
we started working on trauma work after he got me off substances and first tried emdr to which caused him to run about for a bucket to vomit in. until he went to amsterdam to meet an american psychiatrist david grand who invented a new of emdr called brain spotting. its much more milder than emdr as you are safe place going through the techniquic and reprocessing traumas. it has many applications and has blunted my traumas. i know theyll never go away but the symptoms are less severe. ive been with him 6 years and it was defo he best move id made. if you have never heard of brain spotting its on youtube by david grand.
 
hi alex your average not only lacks the qualification and the experience
to tell the truth your can see a physical ailment and treat you but mental hes out of his depth although he wouldn admit it
im glad you went to combat stress i was abit off guard because the staff were really nice i know they do therapy but you to make new friends who would watch your back but its the best place to find out entitlements from clients as they dont use the word paitient which i find there is stigma about the word
but you are defo on the right road and its a holiday and the best of grub hope it works out for you buddy
 
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