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I Forget Where My Memory Is...

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KwanYingirl

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I have been forgetful forever. Now I can't find my camera. Sometimes I can't remember what day it is. All day yesterday I thought it was Sunday. When I make plans I forget and don't remember until someone calls asking me where I am. I have to write notes on my clients history card noting characteristics they have because I forget when I saw them last. I forget to take Annie to the groomer or to her petsitter even though they're written on my calendar because I forget what day it is. I mean everything. I recognize your forum names but forget your story until I look back on threads. I forget what book I am currently reading and when I remember I forget what I've read. This goes on and on.

I think it's because I live in a near constant state of dissociation. It's pathetic that I remember my trauma, well some of it, probably not all of it. When my shrink talks about ECT I freeze because I can't risk losing my memory what little works.
Anybody else dissociate as much as I do?
 
Mu memory is certainly a jumble. I think it's a mixture of dissociation, fatigue and bodily regression that I just don't the cognitive energy to do recall properly. At present (i.e. this stage of recovery which is approx. the last 3 years), I have stopped worrying about it pretty successfully.

However other things, like on Friday a woman telephoned the office and was speaking really fast and I felt wiped out. I was missing details and getting her to repeat because she wouldn't slow down. That upset me a bit. The mental energy required was making me feel whoosy and I felt a little shaken and upset afterwards,
 
Hi @KwanYingirl. I definitely have lots more general recent memory troubles when I'm feeling what I think is more dissociated, though the dissociation seems to have different levels. If I have a feeling of being upset but it's below the surface, I can dip into feelings of fear in there -- but I don't really want to go there! This feels like it's taking a lot of energy; to get into the current situation with its associated memories takes a lot of energy and feels like I have to almost physically move myself internally. If I haven't done that, I really don't keep track as well so I try to do this for work (when I'm not too spaced out to think of it!) :confused: Have you noticed what it feels like on any occasions when you (more successfully) pay attention to the present and remember the current context of details? I'm trying to do that so I can replicate it when necessary.

The other issues need their time too though. I think some Ts are now having people mentally put things in boxes between times of intentionally working on the trauma. I bet no one is ever perfectly successful but I've read that it helps.

Then there's the problem that a tiny little reminder can bring up other stuff and mess me up. I think I'm fortunate that work is pretty calm generally. But, we can keep working on it, and I think we can improve over time at these things. :hug:
 
to get into the current situation with its associated memories takes a lot of energy and feels like I have to almost physically move myself internally

This is interesting. I said to my T some time back that inorder to get to work I feel like a weight lifter with their hands on the bar. I strain and strain and strain all day to pick myself up and get through the day BUT I never actually lift the weight. It's just exertion that doesn't go anywhere.

Slowly I had less and less energy to do this with. I was being pulled down to a place where I must learn to operate without pulling away from myself.

So in a way the memory thing. I only don't worry about it because I don't have the energy to do that either and I've just let it all drift. Because I can feel very strongly in my body and subconscious that I am supposed to let myself be in my body. If I don't have the power to recall and I don't have the energy to worry about it, then I don't care really.

Sometimes people at work think I'm a little odd, or quirky or perhaps self-indulgent that I don't have the energy to do it. But they haven't seen the preceeding 20 years that I've been through.
 
Anybody else dissociate as much as I do?
I can't compare myself. I'm one of those people who never realized how much I dissociate because it was/is just part of who I always have been. Since things melted down for me last fall and I started therapy, I'm now more aware of my tendencies. My super-power manager part and caretaker part just pooped out on their jobs, I guess, and all sorts of other parts have started coming through and wreaking havoc in my life. The exhausted parts are the ones that kept me highly functional and organized enough to have a professional career, raise two children, be in a good marriage, and balance a plethora of family and social and volunteer obligations with pretty good efficiency. Even so, I've always been pretty spacey, according to my husband. It's just that I had somehow managed to accommodate it.

Now...I forget things all the time and/or cannot make myself do what I used to do just automatically. I have to look at a calendar regularly to remind myself what day it is and what I have to do, and even then I forget things. One day I knew in the morning I had to go to a medical appointment in the afternoon. Then I forgot to go. It happens a lot. I'm trying to use my phone to send me alerts for things, but I need some kind of app that sends hourly alerts...just one alert isn't enough!

It's not pathetic that you have memory interferences. It is part of how trauma affects our brains and how our brains process and store information. It may also be that your wounded child parts are just making so much noise in their bids for your attention and care that it's hard for your more adult/responsible parts to calm them enough to function in the present the way you would like to.
 
You all articulate your self knowledge so well. Hopefornow, I used to be very efficient with career and children and community work. Now after reading all of your posts and perspectives I think maybe my trauma work is really hard and sapping me of the energy I used to have for negotiating a business and kids as young adults now. They still need me, just to listen, I let them be who they want to be even if I don't agree. For instance, I was enjoying a warm sunny day at the beach, and my daughter texted me that she got a puppy. She is super capable she's worked at shelters for years and worked at wildlife hospitals and the aquarium. She's been trained at the Boston ASPCA in a special training technique for pit bulls that helps them stay calm around strangers and each other. It's very successful and people are more likely to adopt the dogs because they are so calm. But she works ten hour days and lives on the third floor of a three family in Boston and this puppy she got is half bulldog and half lab. The father weighs 110pounds. I guess when they're that big they are mellow, my son has a Great Pyrennes who is very calm. I worry about them and Annie because she's only 10 pounds.

Back to my memory and where it went. @greenleaf I do have some strategies for remembering my setup at work and recalling where I'm at with clients. I am kind of OCD there. My clients tease me about it, but they like how much attention I give to Universal Precautions. I can't remember yoga poses by name and I've been taking yoga for a year. I can do the poses, I just can't remember the names. The teacher often shares affirmations all of which I remember because they get me in my emotional mind. I use post it notes with reckless abandon, the neon colors work better than the pastels.

I guess this brings me to the intense work I'm doing with a trauma therapist. I just don't have a handle on my internal life maybe it's just that simple ( but not really). If I get too close to a memory, I fade away, I am not brave enough to be the adult for the child. My memories terrify me , they intrude like Mosquitos at dusk. I'm not kidding, I don't have a clue what it means to process a memory.

I read great posts and everyone makes so much emotional sense, but I can't apply the same perspective for my own story . I'm quite sure that I have strong avoidance behaviors. Maybe what I am asking is will I get better? I mean if I stop avoiding and meet my child's mind head on and try to somehow describe what she was experiencing that the fear of acknowledging my story will abate? I do pretty good talking about some skills I've learned to self soothe. I have been using my meds as prescribed and have not self harmed for about 5 months. My sleep is much improved since having reiki and yoga. I'll have to talk this out with my therapist-see where I'm at on the PTSD continuum. He sees me as more functional than I do. Damn I can't find my camera, that's what flipped the switch this morning. I am not going to do ECT. I'll just stay on the geodone.

Some people on the forum talk about their parts and how they have various abilities. It seems to me that this may be how my brain functions as well, although I don't know who's who and what their job is. I would like to have insight like that. How do you get insight like that? I'm so confused. I don't know anything about myself. I have one part that I call Notme. As I'm dissociating from her I say "it's Notme, it's Notme" and then I go into a trance. This tension occupies a lot of my brain time leaving me dazed and confused. Sorry I'm long winded I feel like I'm failing therapy. All these years for what? It's good that I'm not over medicated and sleeping well. In fact it's phenomenal!! I am digging reiki. Well, thank you for letting me vent. You're all awesome. I don't feel alone anymore.
 
And... Yep. I've lost several months this year. I keep waking up and it's Thursday. Over and bloody over. Posting helps, not in not losing time, but in knowing hat I was at least semi rational during the week. (Yep. Writing in blackouts. So exciting!) XP

I'm not DID.

But I do wear many hats. Have a lot of "boxes". We all do, if you act any differently whatsoever in changing environments. (School, work, home, lover, friends, church, court, parents, children, etc.).

But I'm still the same person. I'm the same person with my mom hat on, as I am with my boss hat, etc. I'm better in some roles than others, I'm happier in some roles than others... But I'm still just me. Some hats just happen to fit better than others. Some I grow into. Some I outgrow. Some are just ugly and need to be returned to the store. Um. No. Not that one!

I have different boxes, compartments for normal standards of behaviors. I act differently, according to different norms, in different places. These are often -but not always- tied to the hats I wear. If I'm wearing my mom-hat I respond in a totally different set of responses than if I'm in the jungle, or at a fancy restaurant. Although, when I'm really screwed up... All of those boxes leak. I start jumping like I'm in the jungle when I'm safe at home, or tell a gangbanger to stand up straight, or have a shouting match in a restaurant. Gah! So frustrating. Brain! Pay attention to the film in front of us! Eyes. Pay attention to the eyes. Not memories.

On top of all that? I'm a different person, now.

I love the quote : "The past is a foreign country; They do things differently there."

It's fairly easy for me to break my life into chapters, because so much has changed at each part. I've changed. I did things differently at 14, 24, 34. Experience. But I'm still just me.
 
@FridayJones do you dissociate? If so can you describe what it feels like in words? I understand the cultural norms of behavior in different environments and agree it is still me even if I'm not swearing.

I get tripped up from dissociating. It takes up a lot of my time. I'd like to have more self awareness but I find when I actively ponder that, well I just check out.
 
I don't actually know. It's one of those things I've been meaning to look up and haven't actually gotten around to. I've read about it, but don't really grok it.

I'm ADHD, so I've always lost time (time is not a linear construct!), but it's usually when I'm involved with something interesting... And then it's usually hours at most, or a few days it's really urgent. Eventually, a biological function will elbow its way in and it will be a race to the bathroom... Or it will be 3 days later and everyone has finally stopped bleeding, so I can sleep now. Concrete can be so soft and fluffy when you're that tired! While everyone knows the hypofocus (distracted, can't pay attention to boring stuff) thing that ADHD is named for, the inverse of that is actually a requirement for the disorder. Hyperfocus, it's the hyperactive component. Physical or mental or both. It's one reason you tend to find ADHD med pros in either emergency med, surgery, or research. All 3 are specialties which make durn good use of the disorder. A 15 hour surgery with no food or bathroom break, one trauma to the next yippi kai ay, or "I wonder what happens if we do this totally random seeming thing?"

When my compartments start breaking down, though, I start blacking out / losing time in a major way. Not drunk-style. I'm still, apparently, completely rational. I just have no memory of it. If I'm actually doing something (important) this doesn't happen. My memories log just fine. It's only during down time. No responsibilities. Nothing to hold onto. (Unless it's an interminable plane flight. Seriously. When I would like a Cut. Scene. Does it happen? Noooooo.) It happened when I got out of the military in between lovers & gigs (work) off and on for a few years. And it's happening now.

It's definitely PTSD related, but I don't know if it's true disassociation or not. It sounds backwards from how I understand disassociation to be. But, as I said, I don't really grok it.
 
Yeah, I had a neuropsych evaluation after my chemical injury that showed a significantly low ability to maintain attention when compared with my IQ and very good short term and long term memory. She decided in the end that it was PTSD not ADD (as I am not hyperactive-ever) or chemical damage. But my world caved in then and I'm trying to claw my way back.

I can't rationalize my memory problems when compared to my test scores. That's why I'm wondering if I'm flooded with abuse memories that had been repressed for years. My thinking is so impaired now. Not sure if I should approach therapy or avoid it?
 
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